Comments on: The alt-right in my living room https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/ Thu, 09 Apr 2026 15:15:13 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-40013 Robert Thu, 17 Aug 2017 17:51:31 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-40013 Didn't spot your post till just now, and read the thread all at once. Oh man...glad you got some resolution. Hope the bad feelings in the aftermath don't get on you. That map you posted brought home how this isn't just a problem "down there" in the exotic Deep South. Trump has done us a service, of a sorts, by encouraging the assholes to stand up so we know who they are. And they're everywhere. Seems "political correctness" was keeping them hidden from us. Maybe after a million small resolutions like yours, we'll finally resolve the big problem. Mass movements are made of individuals. Didn’t spot your post till just now, and read the thread all at once. Oh man…glad you got some resolution. Hope the bad feelings in the aftermath don’t get on you.

That map you posted brought home how this isn’t just a problem “down there” in the exotic Deep South. Trump has done us a service, of a sorts, by encouraging the assholes to stand up so we know who they are. And they’re everywhere. Seems “political correctness” was keeping them hidden from us.

Maybe after a million small resolutions like yours, we’ll finally resolve the big problem. Mass movements are made of individuals.

]]> By: SDG https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-40007 SDG Thu, 17 Aug 2017 15:04:55 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-40007 She finally broke up with the guy. Sadly it wasn't because she came to her senses, but when her soon to be ex-husband found out she was still dating the creep after discovering he was a white supremecist, he pushed for full custody. I can't blame him. She finally broke up with the guy. Sadly it wasn’t because she came to her senses, but when her soon to be ex-husband found out she was still dating the creep after discovering he was a white supremecist, he pushed for full custody. I can’t blame him.

]]> By: SDG https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-39982 SDG Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:35:49 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-39982 She isn't living with him, and he doesn't have kids. At this point I am just trying to limit contact while trying to talk sense into her. She isn’t living with him, and he doesn’t have kids. At this point I am just trying to limit contact while trying to talk sense into her.

]]> By: RL https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-39979 RL Tue, 15 Aug 2017 01:10:08 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-39979 Obviously the guy is beyond intervention, but there are likely groups that work to save folks like your sister-in-law Obviously the guy is beyond intervention, but there are likely groups that work to save folks like your sister-in-law

]]> By: RL https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-39978 RL Tue, 15 Aug 2017 01:07:43 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-39978 <a href="https://oregoncahc.org/about/" rel="nofollow">https://oregoncahc.org/about/</a> <blockquote>The Coalition Against Hate Crimes (CAHC) was started in Portland, Oregon as a statewide partnership between community groups and local, state, and federal governmental agencies. It held its first meeting in early October 1997. Its members are representatives from a wide variety of community civil rights groups and government organizations. The Coalition and its members support non-violent solutions to the problem of hate and hate crimes in Oregon.</blockquote> https://oregoncahc.org/about/

The Coalition Against Hate Crimes (CAHC) was started in Portland, Oregon as a statewide partnership between community groups and local, state, and federal governmental agencies. It held its first meeting in early October 1997. Its members are representatives from a wide variety of community civil rights groups and government organizations. The Coalition and its members support non-violent solutions to the problem of hate and hate crimes in Oregon.

]]> By: RL https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-39977 RL Tue, 15 Aug 2017 00:49:59 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-39977 I wish you the best of luck- and safety in this situation... Since kids are present can you threaten to call child services? Does the guy have a record? Are there any social services that you can contact for advice? I don't know where you are- are there any organizations that work to help in such situations? Perhaps this organization would have advice and direct you to resources: <a href="https://www.lifeafterhate.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.lifeafterhate.org/</a> <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/hatred/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/hatred/</a> <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/deradicalization-is-coming-to-america-does-it-work/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/deradicalization-is-coming-to-america-does-it-work/</a> <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xd5ywk/formers-exit-sweden-neo-nazism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xd5ywk/formers-exit-sweden-neo-nazism</a> <a href="http://unesco.ca/~/media/unesco/news/20170511_counteringright-wingextremistradicalization_bydanielgallant.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://unesco.ca/~/media/unesco/news/20170511_counteringright-wingextremistradicalization_bydanielgallant.pdf</a> I wish you the best of luck- and safety in this situation…

Since kids are present can you threaten to call child services? Does the guy have a record?

Are there any social services that you can contact for advice?

I don’t know where you are- are there any organizations that work to help in such situations?
Perhaps this organization would have advice and direct you to resources:
https://www.lifeafterhate.org/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/hatred/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/deradicalization-is-coming-to-america-does-it-work/
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xd5ywk/formers-exit-sweden-neo-nazism
http://unesco.ca/~/media/unesco/news/20170511_counteringright-wingextremistradicalization_bydanielgallant.pdf

]]> By: hank https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-39974 hank Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:08:36 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-39974 You are limited in what you can do due to your family connections, so you have to thread the needle here, but I guess you don't need me to tell you that. But I hope you also realize that the situation may change unexpectedly, forcing you to do something more drastic, more decisive, with little warning or preparation. Make sure you have thought it out ahead of time so if you do have to bite the bullet, you will have all the bases covered. Again, best of luck. You are limited in what you can do due to your family connections, so you have to thread the needle here, but I guess you don’t need me to tell you that. But I hope you also realize that the situation may change unexpectedly, forcing you to do something more drastic, more decisive, with little warning or preparation. Make sure you have thought it out ahead of time so if you do have to bite the bullet, you will have all the bases covered. Again, best of luck.

]]> By: SDG https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-39972 SDG Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:54:47 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-39972 I think i am going to check in with the City Police Dept to find out if there is anything they can tell me, but at least get the guy on their radar if he isn't already known. There hasn't been any contact between the guy and my kids (or her kid) mainly because she is trying to keep it from messing up her divorce case, so when he has come over it was after the kids are in bed. At a minimum I want to keep contact limited there. Yesterday I let a few trusted friends in on the situation. They know the guy's name and address. I have a friend in the county prosecuter's office as well who I intend to speak with. The whole thing makes me sick, but I'm not settled on a real plan yet other than to continue to try and persuade her to break it off. I think i am going to check in with the City Police Dept to find out if there is anything they can tell me, but at least get the guy on their radar if he isn’t already known.

There hasn’t been any contact between the guy and my kids (or her kid) mainly because she is trying to keep it from messing up her divorce case, so when he has come over it was after the kids are in bed. At a minimum I want to keep contact limited there.

Yesterday I let a few trusted friends in on the situation. They know the guy’s name and address. I have a friend in the county prosecuter’s office as well who I intend to speak with.

The whole thing makes me sick, but I’m not settled on a real plan yet other than to continue to try and persuade her to break it off.

]]> By: hank https://habitablezone.com/2017/08/14/the-alt-right-in-my-living-room/#comment-39971 hank Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:38:11 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=66261#comment-39971 I hesitate to give you any advice, because you're in a mine field and a wrong step in any direction might be deadly. And of course, family is involved, which is always dangerous; its not just your feelings that are involved, and people you care about are in the middle of this. You seem to have the right feelings about this, and you have every right to feel the way you do. All I can add is that you do everything you can to extricate yourself from this situation as soon as you can, and make sure your wife and son are fully informed. Good luck--and make sure someone you know and trust who is in a position of some authority or community leadership (cop, lawyer, minister, etc) knows what is going on. Just remember, you cannot reason with this guy. He believes God is on his side and has given him the right to do anything he wants. I hesitate to give you any advice, because you’re in a mine field and a wrong step in any direction might be deadly. And of course, family is involved, which is always dangerous; its not just your feelings that are involved, and people you care about are in the middle of this.

You seem to have the right feelings about this, and you have every right to feel the way you do. All I can add is that you do everything you can to extricate yourself from this situation as soon as you can, and make sure your wife and son are fully informed. Good luck–and make sure someone you know and trust who is in a position of some authority or community leadership (cop, lawyer, minister, etc) knows what is going on.

Just remember, you cannot reason with this guy. He believes God is on his side and has given him the right to do anything he wants.

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