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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/09/12/rip-jerry-pournelle/#comment-40182</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much to be expected given his love of all things martial. Reminds me of one of the plot lines in &quot;Footfall&quot;, where the government throws up its hands and turns the defense of Earth over to a bunch of science fiction authors, because why not? No way Pournelle could have resisted the temptation to exploit his &quot;status as [a] 20th Century seer[s]&quot; to live the dream as a real-life gee-whiz jeepers! presidential adviser.

Sometimes you do have to hold a writer responsible; you can&#039;t pretend that widely-read writers don&#039;t have a real impact in the world. I still haven&#039;t seen the movie &quot;Ender&#039;s Game&quot; because Orson Scott Card has turned out to be such a malignant creep. It&#039;s hard to completely separate the author from the work in the real world, and knowing the author is a jerk really can spoil the enjoyment of their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much to be expected given his love of all things martial. Reminds me of one of the plot lines in &#8220;Footfall&#8221;, where the government throws up its hands and turns the defense of Earth over to a bunch of science fiction authors, because why not? No way Pournelle could have resisted the temptation to exploit his &#8220;status as [a] 20th Century seer[s]&#8221; to live the dream as a real-life gee-whiz jeepers! presidential adviser.</p>
<p>Sometimes you do have to hold a writer responsible; you can&#8217;t pretend that widely-read writers don&#8217;t have a real impact in the world. I still haven&#8217;t seen the movie &#8220;Ender&#8217;s Game&#8221; because Orson Scott Card has turned out to be such a malignant creep. It&#8217;s hard to completely separate the author from the work in the real world, and knowing the author is a jerk really can spoil the enjoyment of their work.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/09/12/rip-jerry-pournelle/#comment-40181</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jastrow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robert Jastrow&lt;/a&gt; features prominently in the book &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Merchants of Doubt&quot;&lt;/a&gt;- about how certain scientists whored themselves to sell doubt about the smoking-cancer link and global warming...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jastrow" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Robert Jastrow</a> features prominently in the book <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Merchants of Doubt&#8221;</a>- about how certain scientists whored themselves to sell doubt about the smoking-cancer link and global warming&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/09/12/rip-jerry-pournelle/#comment-40180</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legacy_of_Heorot&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Legacy of Heorot&lt;/a&gt;


But that was a collaboration with Barnes and Niven... And Niven could write a great story!

Niven is a right wing nut as well (Global warming denier and all that) but at least his politics didn&#039;t seem to overwhelm his earlier writing (His earlier works like Ringworld were great) - but he did collaborate with Pournelle in the 90&#039;s on &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Angels_(science_fiction_novel)&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fallen Angels&lt;/a&gt;&#039;, an attack on environmentalists.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legacy_of_Heorot" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Legacy of Heorot</a></p>
<p>But that was a collaboration with Barnes and Niven&#8230; And Niven could write a great story!</p>
<p>Niven is a right wing nut as well (Global warming denier and all that) but at least his politics didn&#8217;t seem to overwhelm his earlier writing (His earlier works like Ringworld were great) &#8211; but he did collaborate with Pournelle in the 90&#8242;s on &#8216;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Angels_(science_fiction_novel)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Fallen Angels</a>&#8216;, an attack on environmentalists.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/09/12/rip-jerry-pournelle/#comment-40179</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Just kidding...)

&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;In a 1997 article, Norman Spinrad wrote that Pournelle had written the SDI portion of Ronald Reagan&#039;s State of the Union Address, as part of a plan to use SDI to get more money for space exploration, using the larger defense budget.[37] Pournelle wrote in response that while the Citizens&#039; Advisory Council on National Space Policy &quot;wrote parts of Reagan&#039;s 1983 SDI speech, and provided much of the background for the policy, we certainly did not write the speech ... We were not trying to boost space, we were trying to win the Cold War&quot;. The Council&#039;s first report in 1980[38] became the transition team policy paper on space for the incoming Reagan administration. The third report was certainly quoted in the Reagan &quot;Star Wars&quot; speech.
He is sometimes quoted as describing his politics as &quot;somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan&quot;.[39] Nevertheless, Pournelle opposed the Gulf War and the Iraq War, maintaining that the money would be better spent developing energy technologies for the United States.
Pournelle is also known for his Pournelle chart, a 2-dimensional coordinate system used to distinguish political ideologies that he initially delineated in his dissertation. It is similar to the Nolan Chart, except that the X-axis gauges opinion toward state and centralized government (farthest right being state worship, farthest left being the idea of a state as the &quot;ultimate evil&quot;), and the Y-axis measures the belief that all problems in society have rational solutions (top being complete confidence in rational planning, bottom being complete lack of confidence in rational planning).


Now they are split into camps that support the Reagan administration`s Strategic Defense Initiative, the so-called ``Star Wars`` defense against intercontinental missiles, or urge alternatives such as cooperation in space with the Soviet Union.

As befits their status as 20th Century seers, they and their opinions are being accorded careful attention by powerful individuals in and out of government, including President Reagan.

``People are listening to science-fiction writers more than they did,``

said James Gunn, an expert in the genre at the University of Kansas. ``An element of soapbox missionary work has existed in science fiction back to the days of H.G. Wells and Jules Verne. But today authors like Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein have become credible advocates because, as Asimov says, we live in a science-fiction world and people are just starting to realize it.``&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-05-02/features/8501270085_1_missile-defense-star-wars-authors&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-05-02/features/8501270085_1_missile-defense-star-wars-authors&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;Recently the authors Robert A. Heinlein and Jerry Pournelle have been promoting the ``High Frontier`` proposed by Army Lt. Gen. Daniel O. Graham, retired, in which hundreds of orbiting battle stations, some manned, would be used to shoot down enemy missiles.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;



The &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_Advisory_Council_on_National_Space_Policy&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Citizens&#039; Advisory Council on National Space Policy&lt;/a&gt; included Sci-Fi authors: Poul Anderson, Greg Bear, Robert A. Heinlein, Gregory Benford, Dean Ing, Steven Barnes, Jim Baen, Larry Niven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Just kidding&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a 1997 article, Norman Spinrad wrote that Pournelle had written the SDI portion of Ronald Reagan&#8217;s State of the Union Address, as part of a plan to use SDI to get more money for space exploration, using the larger defense budget.[37] Pournelle wrote in response that while the Citizens&#8217; Advisory Council on National Space Policy &#8220;wrote parts of Reagan&#8217;s 1983 SDI speech, and provided much of the background for the policy, we certainly did not write the speech &#8230; We were not trying to boost space, we were trying to win the Cold War&#8221;. The Council&#8217;s first report in 1980[38] became the transition team policy paper on space for the incoming Reagan administration. The third report was certainly quoted in the Reagan &#8220;Star Wars&#8221; speech.<br />
He is sometimes quoted as describing his politics as &#8220;somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan&#8221;.[39] Nevertheless, Pournelle opposed the Gulf War and the Iraq War, maintaining that the money would be better spent developing energy technologies for the United States.<br />
Pournelle is also known for his Pournelle chart, a 2-dimensional coordinate system used to distinguish political ideologies that he initially delineated in his dissertation. It is similar to the Nolan Chart, except that the X-axis gauges opinion toward state and centralized government (farthest right being state worship, farthest left being the idea of a state as the &#8220;ultimate evil&#8221;), and the Y-axis measures the belief that all problems in society have rational solutions (top being complete confidence in rational planning, bottom being complete lack of confidence in rational planning).</p>
<p>Now they are split into camps that support the Reagan administration`s Strategic Defense Initiative, the so-called &#8220;Star Wars&#8220; defense against intercontinental missiles, or urge alternatives such as cooperation in space with the Soviet Union.</p>
<p>As befits their status as 20th Century seers, they and their opinions are being accorded careful attention by powerful individuals in and out of government, including President Reagan.</p>
<p>&#8220;People are listening to science-fiction writers more than they did,&#8220;</p>
<p>said James Gunn, an expert in the genre at the University of Kansas. &#8220;An element of soapbox missionary work has existed in science fiction back to the days of H.G. Wells and Jules Verne. But today authors like Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein have become credible advocates because, as Asimov says, we live in a science-fiction world and people are just starting to realize it.&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-05-02/features/8501270085_1_missile-defense-star-wars-authors" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-05-02/features/8501270085_1_missile-defense-star-wars-authors</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Recently the authors Robert A. Heinlein and Jerry Pournelle have been promoting the &#8220;High Frontier&#8220; proposed by Army Lt. Gen. Daniel O. Graham, retired, in which hundreds of orbiting battle stations, some manned, would be used to shoot down enemy missiles.</p>
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<p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_Advisory_Council_on_National_Space_Policy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Citizens&#8217; Advisory Council on National Space Policy</a> included Sci-Fi authors: Poul Anderson, Greg Bear, Robert A. Heinlein, Gregory Benford, Dean Ing, Steven Barnes, Jim Baen, Larry Niven</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 01:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please be (relatively) tactful, we&#039;re in an obituary thread...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be (relatively) tactful, we&#8217;re in an obituary thread&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/09/12/rip-jerry-pournelle/#comment-40177</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you familiar with his involvement in selling SDI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you familiar with his involvement in selling SDI?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/09/12/rip-jerry-pournelle/#comment-40173</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 03:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you mean. Left to his own devices, without the steadying influence of a co-author, Pournelle&#039;s politics infected his work with an authoritarian heavy-handedness. I&#039;m not referring to the military theme of his stories, but the philosophy behind his stories, and which animated his characters.

Pournelle was popular with some of the conservative Zoners, especially TB, and they seemed to approach him as a sort of cross between Heinlein and Ayn Rand...a guru in a bush jacket. There are people who are mourning Pournelle right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you mean. Left to his own devices, without the steadying influence of a co-author, Pournelle&#8217;s politics infected his work with an authoritarian heavy-handedness. I&#8217;m not referring to the military theme of his stories, but the philosophy behind his stories, and which animated his characters.</p>
<p>Pournelle was popular with some of the conservative Zoners, especially TB, and they seemed to approach him as a sort of cross between Heinlein and Ayn Rand&#8230;a guru in a bush jacket. There are people who are mourning Pournelle right now.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was an ideological whore that did his best to do a lot of damage... A propagandist that was given a microphone by the Reagan administration...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was an ideological whore that did his best to do a lot of damage&#8230; A propagandist that was given a microphone by the Reagan administration&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niven gave the Mote stories some depth. Footfall has a bang-up ending [spoiler alert, but I&#039;ll bet you don&#039;t care] involving an Orion nuclear-push battle-cruiser rising out of the Seattle suburbs, and a valiant space battle once in orbit. But the alien invaders seemed flat and two-dimensional. They reminded me of a shadow of the aliens in the same role in Harry Turtledove&#039;s WordWar/Colonization bitrilogy. Of the two, I recommend trying at least the first Mote book, some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niven gave the Mote stories some depth. Footfall has a bang-up ending [spoiler alert, but I'll bet you don't care] involving an Orion nuclear-push battle-cruiser rising out of the Seattle suburbs, and a valiant space battle once in orbit. But the alien invaders seemed flat and two-dimensional. They reminded me of a shadow of the aliens in the same role in Harry Turtledove&#8217;s WordWar/Colonization bitrilogy. Of the two, I recommend trying at least the first Mote book, some day.</p>
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		<title>By: SDG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/09/12/rip-jerry-pournelle/#comment-40170</link>
		<dc:creator>SDG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 23:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried Footfall once or twice, but just couldn&#039;t get into it.  Mote in God&#039;s Eye and Lucifer&#039;s Hammer has been on my list for a while because I have heard they were really good.  One of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried Footfall once or twice, but just couldn&#8217;t get into it.  Mote in God&#8217;s Eye and Lucifer&#8217;s Hammer has been on my list for a while because I have heard they were really good.  One of these days.</p>
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