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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps one of Tolkien&#039;s genius touches was to tell the Ring stories through the eyes of little people, the Hobbits. The ones always being patronized by all the bigger races, while being protected by the bigger people. The little people always being underestimated, and the ones who, in the end, save the world.

And Frodo grows up, some, not dramatically, it&#039;s not a coming-of-age story. But he grows outside of himself, becomes bigger, through the journey.

And, and again, the smaller viewpoint I think makes the story accessible to everyone regardless of age. You don&#039;t have to look like a hero, or even think of yourself as a hero; and you don&#039;t have to be a born fighter and big and strong. You can be small, and still be the center of the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps one of Tolkien&#8217;s genius touches was to tell the Ring stories through the eyes of little people, the Hobbits. The ones always being patronized by all the bigger races, while being protected by the bigger people. The little people always being underestimated, and the ones who, in the end, save the world.</p>
<p>And Frodo grows up, some, not dramatically, it&#8217;s not a coming-of-age story. But he grows outside of himself, becomes bigger, through the journey.</p>
<p>And, and again, the smaller viewpoint I think makes the story accessible to everyone regardless of age. You don&#8217;t have to look like a hero, or even think of yourself as a hero; and you don&#8217;t have to be a born fighter and big and strong. You can be small, and still be the center of the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, RL, been a crazy few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, RL, been a crazy few days.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/12/10/yo-podrock-5/#comment-40660</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have mail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have mail</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/12/10/yo-podrock-5/#comment-40659</link>
		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 03:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is closely related to our love of fascism.  We are, after all, monkeys.  We&#039;re wired to live in small hierarchical bands, led by a charismatic, kick-ass leader. That&#039;s how we evolved and that&#039;s how we spent most of our history. Unfortunately, now we live
in great hives, run by bumbling bureaucracies--if we&#039;re lucky.
Too often our societies degenerate into chaos, and we have to fall back on our default programming.

We&#039;re an adaptable species, but we have left the savanna, not to mention the rain forest, way behind.  From now on, we can no longer rely on the equipment we were issued with, but we still have to deal with the consequences of carrying it with us for so long.

Fortunately, you can have shitty politics and still write good prose, and understand the human condition in a profound and genuine way.  I learned that from Evelyn Waugh.  Try &quot;Brideshead Revisited&quot;.  Even the fascists have something to teach us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is closely related to our love of fascism.  We are, after all, monkeys.  We&#8217;re wired to live in small hierarchical bands, led by a charismatic, kick-ass leader. That&#8217;s how we evolved and that&#8217;s how we spent most of our history. Unfortunately, now we live<br />
in great hives, run by bumbling bureaucracies&#8211;if we&#8217;re lucky.<br />
Too often our societies degenerate into chaos, and we have to fall back on our default programming.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re an adaptable species, but we have left the savanna, not to mention the rain forest, way behind.  From now on, we can no longer rely on the equipment we were issued with, but we still have to deal with the consequences of carrying it with us for so long.</p>
<p>Fortunately, you can have shitty politics and still write good prose, and understand the human condition in a profound and genuine way.  I learned that from Evelyn Waugh.  Try &#8220;Brideshead Revisited&#8221;.  Even the fascists have something to teach us.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/12/10/yo-podrock-5/#comment-40652</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, hank,&lt;/p&gt;

Thanks for the link to the essay. Thought provoking; and, most of my thoughts are in agreement. The author clearly knows his Tolkien, I only had one or two minor quibbles with his Tolkien lore.

So what is it that appeals to the reader of Tolkien&#039;s Middle Earth. The feudalism is obvious but that is not, in my opinion, what appeals to the young reader. I first read LOTR when I as 15. Looking back, I try to recall what appealed to me on that first read, and why I decided to read it again, and again, and again, every summer.

As a teenager, I craved adventure. My favorite literary diversions, and movies too, followed the classic hero story. There was also the appeal of the Western Genre. I was interested in tales of explorers - out in the wilderness, depending on the resources of the land and their own skill to stay alive. But not only survival, the discovery of new places and things.

This, I believe, is what drew me to Tolkien. The journey of the hobbits is one of constant revelation of a bigger world. Tolkien was careful in his craft to create a world that was mostly ordinary, and occasionally extra-ordinary. Middle Earth seemed like a place I could discover on one of my hikes in the Rocky Mountains, but the next valley might have elves in it. Science fiction I also enjoyed, but the chance of me having a space-ship was impossible. Who knows what I might find in my own explorations in the forest?

It was only later that I came to examine the politics of Middle Earth, its culture and beliefs.

Do we have a learned yearning for feudalism, as most of our culture, as Brin points out, has been cast in a caste system for most of its history? Do crave the surety of hierarchy, the comfort of having a monarch, and if she dies, we know her son will take her place? Elections are full of uncertainty.

Okay. I&#039;m just writing off the top o&#039; my head right now. Interesting topic, though, just the sort of conversation good literature should inspire.

Oh, perhaps my favorite character is Galadriel. I&#039;ve always had a bit of a crush on her. She&#039;s a kick-ass warrior elf that&#039;s thousands of years old, crossed the arctic, learned magic from a goddess, was there for the all the triumphs and tragedies of  Middle Earth. I know Tolkien is chided for not have enough female characters, but when he does, they are very strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, hank,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the essay. Thought provoking; and, most of my thoughts are in agreement. The author clearly knows his Tolkien, I only had one or two minor quibbles with his Tolkien lore.</p>
<p>So what is it that appeals to the reader of Tolkien&#8217;s Middle Earth. The feudalism is obvious but that is not, in my opinion, what appeals to the young reader. I first read LOTR when I as 15. Looking back, I try to recall what appealed to me on that first read, and why I decided to read it again, and again, and again, every summer.</p>
<p>As a teenager, I craved adventure. My favorite literary diversions, and movies too, followed the classic hero story. There was also the appeal of the Western Genre. I was interested in tales of explorers &#8211; out in the wilderness, depending on the resources of the land and their own skill to stay alive. But not only survival, the discovery of new places and things.</p>
<p>This, I believe, is what drew me to Tolkien. The journey of the hobbits is one of constant revelation of a bigger world. Tolkien was careful in his craft to create a world that was mostly ordinary, and occasionally extra-ordinary. Middle Earth seemed like a place I could discover on one of my hikes in the Rocky Mountains, but the next valley might have elves in it. Science fiction I also enjoyed, but the chance of me having a space-ship was impossible. Who knows what I might find in my own explorations in the forest?</p>
<p>It was only later that I came to examine the politics of Middle Earth, its culture and beliefs.</p>
<p>Do we have a learned yearning for feudalism, as most of our culture, as Brin points out, has been cast in a caste system for most of its history? Do crave the surety of hierarchy, the comfort of having a monarch, and if she dies, we know her son will take her place? Elections are full of uncertainty.</p>
<p>Okay. I&#8217;m just writing off the top o&#8217; my head right now. Interesting topic, though, just the sort of conversation good literature should inspire.</p>
<p>Oh, perhaps my favorite character is Galadriel. I&#8217;ve always had a bit of a crush on her. She&#8217;s a kick-ass warrior elf that&#8217;s thousands of years old, crossed the arctic, learned magic from a goddess, was there for the all the triumphs and tragedies of  Middle Earth. I know Tolkien is chided for not have enough female characters, but when he does, they are very strong.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2017/12/10/yo-podrock-5/#comment-40648</link>
		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2017 20:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a Google on &quot;David Brin, Star Wars&quot; and found all sorts of good stuff.

Yep, these damn Marxists are everywhere!  Its no wonder the wingnuts are so paranoid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a Google on &#8220;David Brin, Star Wars&#8221; and found all sorts of good stuff.</p>
<p>Yep, these damn Marxists are everywhere!  Its no wonder the wingnuts are so paranoid.</p>
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