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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/01/12/trump-lawyer-arranged-130000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence/#comment-41804</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His followers will still make excuses for him.  Didn&#039;t he say he could shoot somebody in broad daylight on Broadway and no one would testify against him? You see, as long as he pisses off Liberals, the Donald can do no wrong as far as the Deplorables are concerned.

I don&#039;t think any of the Russian, or treason, or sex stuff, or lying is going to make any difference. Certainly not the lying, he&#039;s done so much of that no one even notices anymore. Nothing will make any difference.  These are the same knuckledraggers who forgive TV evangelists when they&#039;re caught with hookers. These are the same peckerheads that wanted to hang Bill Clinton for an office romance, but now look the other way and make excuses while Donald bangs one bimbo after another, and then pays them off so his wives won&#039;t find out.

I wouldn&#039;t doubt that if it is ever revealed the Donald had taken care of some of his lovers by paying for their abortions his bible-banging pro-lifers would just dismiss it as &quot;fake news&quot;. These people swallowed Birtherism and Death Panels and Benghazi and missing emails and Nazi torch parades and Pizza Parlor Pedophiles. There ain&#039;t nothing they can&#039;t swallow now.

No, its going to take more than evidence to get his knee-walking turkeys to have second thoughts about their MAGA Man. He&#039;s going to have to lose a war or wreck the economy the way the Bush Baby did to get their full attention.

I hope our next President is a woman.  Hopefully, a Muslim, black, gay woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His followers will still make excuses for him.  Didn&#8217;t he say he could shoot somebody in broad daylight on Broadway and no one would testify against him? You see, as long as he pisses off Liberals, the Donald can do no wrong as far as the Deplorables are concerned.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any of the Russian, or treason, or sex stuff, or lying is going to make any difference. Certainly not the lying, he&#8217;s done so much of that no one even notices anymore. Nothing will make any difference.  These are the same knuckledraggers who forgive TV evangelists when they&#8217;re caught with hookers. These are the same peckerheads that wanted to hang Bill Clinton for an office romance, but now look the other way and make excuses while Donald bangs one bimbo after another, and then pays them off so his wives won&#8217;t find out.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t doubt that if it is ever revealed the Donald had taken care of some of his lovers by paying for their abortions his bible-banging pro-lifers would just dismiss it as &#8220;fake news&#8221;. These people swallowed Birtherism and Death Panels and Benghazi and missing emails and Nazi torch parades and Pizza Parlor Pedophiles. There ain&#8217;t nothing they can&#8217;t swallow now.</p>
<p>No, its going to take more than evidence to get his knee-walking turkeys to have second thoughts about their MAGA Man. He&#8217;s going to have to lose a war or wreck the economy the way the Bush Baby did to get their full attention.</p>
<p>I hope our next President is a woman.  Hopefully, a Muslim, black, gay woman.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/01/12/trump-lawyer-arranged-130000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence/#comment-41803</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2018 21:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html?hp&amp;action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=first-column-region&amp;region=top-news&amp;WT.nav=top-news&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh LORDY - there ARE  tapes!!&lt;/a&gt;
LOL
You see, Rob, the most dangerous thing you can do is believe what Trump tells you- and to defend him is essentially slitting your own throat...




&lt;blockquote&gt;President Trump’s longtime lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, secretly recorded a conversation with Mr. Trump two months before the presidential election in which they discussed payments to a former Playboy model who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump, according to lawyers and others familiar with the recording.

The F.B.I. seized the recording this year during a raid on Mr. Cohen’s office. The Justice Department is investigating Mr. Cohen’s involvement in paying women to tamp down embarrassing news stories about Mr. Trump ahead of the 2016 election. Prosecutors want to know whether that violated federal campaign finance laws, and any conversation with Mr. Trump about those payments would be of keen interest to them.

The recording’s existence appears to undercut the Trump campaign’s denial of any knowledge of payments to the model. And it further draws Mr. Trump into questions about tactics he and his associates used to keep aspects of his personal and business life a secret. And it highlights the potential legal and political danger that Mr. Cohen represents to Mr. Trump. Once the keeper of many of Mr. Trump’s secrets, Mr. Cohen is now seen as increasingly willing to consider cooperating with prosecutors.
....&lt;/blockquote&gt;






&lt;blockquote&gt;Neither of Mr. Giuliani’s descriptions of the conversations explains why, when The Wall Street Journal revealed the existence of the A.M.I. payment days before the election, Mr. Trump’s campaign spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, said, “We have no knowledge of any of this.” She said Ms. McDougal’s claim of an affair was “totally untrue.”

.....&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-playboy-model-recording/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-playboy-model-recording/index.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Giuliani said Trump had no idea he was being recorded during the McDougal discussion, which took place in the then-candidate&#039;s office at Trump Tower in September 2016. When informed about the recording, Trump said, &quot;I can&#039;t believe Michael would do this to me,&quot; a source familiar with the tapes told CNN.
A spokeswoman for the US attorney&#039;s office, Cohen and his lawyer declined to comment. McDougal&#039;s attorney Peter Stris on Friday tweeted: &quot;.@karenmcdougal98→ When @realDonaldTrump said we were lying, do you think he meant we WEREN&#039;T?&quot; an apparent reference to Trump&#039;s claim of having misspoke at the summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin earlier this week.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html?hp&#038;action=click&#038;pgtype=Homepage&#038;clickSource=story-heading&#038;module=first-column-region&#038;region=top-news&#038;WT.nav=top-news" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Oh LORDY &#8211; there ARE  tapes!!</a><br />
LOL<br />
You see, Rob, the most dangerous thing you can do is believe what Trump tells you- and to defend him is essentially slitting your own throat&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>President Trump’s longtime lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, secretly recorded a conversation with Mr. Trump two months before the presidential election in which they discussed payments to a former Playboy model who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump, according to lawyers and others familiar with the recording.</p>
<p>The F.B.I. seized the recording this year during a raid on Mr. Cohen’s office. The Justice Department is investigating Mr. Cohen’s involvement in paying women to tamp down embarrassing news stories about Mr. Trump ahead of the 2016 election. Prosecutors want to know whether that violated federal campaign finance laws, and any conversation with Mr. Trump about those payments would be of keen interest to them.</p>
<p>The recording’s existence appears to undercut the Trump campaign’s denial of any knowledge of payments to the model. And it further draws Mr. Trump into questions about tactics he and his associates used to keep aspects of his personal and business life a secret. And it highlights the potential legal and political danger that Mr. Cohen represents to Mr. Trump. Once the keeper of many of Mr. Trump’s secrets, Mr. Cohen is now seen as increasingly willing to consider cooperating with prosecutors.<br />
&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Neither of Mr. Giuliani’s descriptions of the conversations explains why, when The Wall Street Journal revealed the existence of the A.M.I. payment days before the election, Mr. Trump’s campaign spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, said, “We have no knowledge of any of this.” She said Ms. McDougal’s claim of an affair was “totally untrue.”</p>
<p>&#8230;..</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-playboy-model-recording/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-playboy-model-recording/index.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Giuliani said Trump had no idea he was being recorded during the McDougal discussion, which took place in the then-candidate&#8217;s office at Trump Tower in September 2016. When informed about the recording, Trump said, &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe Michael would do this to me,&#8221; a source familiar with the tapes told CNN.<br />
A spokeswoman for the US attorney&#8217;s office, Cohen and his lawyer declined to comment. McDougal&#8217;s attorney Peter Stris on Friday tweeted: &#8220;.@karenmcdougal98→ When @realDonaldTrump said we were lying, do you think he meant we WEREN&#8217;T?&#8221; an apparent reference to Trump&#8217;s claim of having misspoke at the summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin earlier this week.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/01/12/trump-lawyer-arranged-130000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence/#comment-41068</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 07:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the First Porn Star of the United States says that admission nullifies the agreement and she will tell all...

YUP, this is Soooo much more dignified... can&#039;t you just feel the MAGA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the First Porn Star of the United States says that admission nullifies the agreement and she will tell all&#8230;</p>
<p>YUP, this is Soooo much more dignified&#8230; can&#8217;t you just feel the MAGA?</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/01/12/trump-lawyer-arranged-130000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence/#comment-40940</link>
		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t just have a different interpretation of the facts,  or some deep self-interest that either clouds their judgement or tempts them to lie to maintain some profitable status quo. There is some of that, of course. But what they are really faced with is a deep challenge to their world view, how they see reality itself.

Think of it this way.  Suppose you were being presented with incontrovertible truth that magic was true, or that the traditional picture of a fundamentalist god was actually the way the universe was put together.  Imagine if you actually saw a ghost, and the apparition was impossible to explain away as a non-supernatural event.

In other words, imagine a universe that was fundamentally different than the way you thought it was, that everything you believed was wrong and everything you had contempt for was actually true.

Wouldn&#039;t you freak out too?  

Like I said, its like trying to debate evolution with a Southern Baptist.  They simply do not want to live in our world.  They can&#039;t even bear to admit it might exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t just have a different interpretation of the facts,  or some deep self-interest that either clouds their judgement or tempts them to lie to maintain some profitable status quo. There is some of that, of course. But what they are really faced with is a deep challenge to their world view, how they see reality itself.</p>
<p>Think of it this way.  Suppose you were being presented with incontrovertible truth that magic was true, or that the traditional picture of a fundamentalist god was actually the way the universe was put together.  Imagine if you actually saw a ghost, and the apparition was impossible to explain away as a non-supernatural event.</p>
<p>In other words, imagine a universe that was fundamentally different than the way you thought it was, that everything you believed was wrong and everything you had contempt for was actually true.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you freak out too?  </p>
<p>Like I said, its like trying to debate evolution with a Southern Baptist.  They simply do not want to live in our world.  They can&#8217;t even bear to admit it might exist.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/01/12/trump-lawyer-arranged-130000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence/#comment-40939</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the facts are on your side, you don&#039;t have to invent falsehoods to make your case...

By bolstering their case with lies and misdirection, they not only reveal their position cannot be defended honestly, and they also reveal they don&#039;t care...

They will just go on believing whatever bullshit makes them feel good, no matter how detached it  is from reality...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the facts are on your side, you don&#8217;t have to invent falsehoods to make your case&#8230;</p>
<p>By bolstering their case with lies and misdirection, they not only reveal their position cannot be defended honestly, and they also reveal they don&#8217;t care&#8230;</p>
<p>They will just go on believing whatever bullshit makes them feel good, no matter how detached it  is from reality&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...that&#039;s why Gbaike doesn&#039;t post here any more.

But at least, he usually left a link, counting on no one taking the time to verify his quotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;that&#8217;s why Gbaike doesn&#8217;t post here any more.</p>
<p>But at least, he usually left a link, counting on no one taking the time to verify his quotes.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 03:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should try reading it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should try reading it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 02:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://fortune.com/2018/01/22/trump-campaign-stormy-daniels-watchdog-group/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://fortune.com/2018/01/22/trump-campaign-stormy-daniels-watchdog-group/" rel="nofollow">http://fortune.com/2018/01/22/trump-campaign-stormy-daniels-watchdog-group/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 02:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have no idea how much lower he will drag you, do you?

The dishonesty you attempted above sure seems desperate, Rob...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have no idea how much lower he will drag you, do you?</p>
<p>The dishonesty you attempted above sure seems desperate, Rob&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/01/12/trump-lawyer-arranged-130000-payment-for-adult-film-stars-silence/#comment-40932</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, I&#039;m not &quot;desperate&quot; Robert. Alot of what Trump says and does isn&#039;t defensible but the &quot;issues&quot; are trivial. You&#039;re the only one here that sees them as &quot;atrocities&quot;. You know it&#039;s funny, your arguments are fine but the hyperbole and insults just detract from them.

I still think the dust hasn&#039;t settled yet on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, I&#8217;m not &#8220;desperate&#8221; Robert. Alot of what Trump says and does isn&#8217;t defensible but the &#8220;issues&#8221; are trivial. You&#8217;re the only one here that sees them as &#8220;atrocities&#8221;. You know it&#8217;s funny, your arguments are fine but the hyperbole and insults just detract from them.</p>
<p>I still think the dust hasn&#8217;t settled yet on this one.</p>
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