Comments on: “Truth isn’t truth” https://habitablezone.com/2018/08/19/truth-isnt-truth/ Sun, 19 Apr 2026 21:38:00 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert https://habitablezone.com/2018/08/19/truth-isnt-truth/#comment-41885 Robert Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:48:33 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=72527#comment-41885 Remember how the Conservatives would tie themselves into seven-dimensional pretzels trying to prove that liberals are the real Nazis, and Democrats the racist slaveholders? What do you do when the official canon flips, and those are the good guys now? I didn't actually watch MTP, just saw the relevant clip. I can't watch the Sunday lie shows any more without bleeding from the ears. Luckily, the world still has lots of people like you who will watch 'em, and tell me all about it. Thank you for your service! Remember how the Conservatives would tie themselves into seven-dimensional pretzels trying to prove that liberals are the real Nazis, and Democrats the racist slaveholders?

What do you do when the official canon flips, and those are the good guys now?

I didn’t actually watch MTP, just saw the relevant clip. I can’t watch the Sunday lie shows any more without bleeding from the ears.

Luckily, the world still has lots of people like you who will watch ‘em, and tell me all about it. Thank you for your service!

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2018/08/19/truth-isnt-truth/#comment-41884 ER Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:35:29 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=72527#comment-41884 Remember how the Conservatives here on the Zone were always droning on about Real Truth, objective truth, (yeah, Objectivism), definitions, logic etc? They always insisted on strict and precise dictionary specificity, and criticized Progressives for their situational or fuzzy logic and subjective reality. Oh yes, they were all so scientific, so obsessed with engineering accuracy and linguistic precision. In their world of black and white, their-way-or-the-highway dogmatism, there was no room for interpretation, for nuance, for context, point-of-view--you know, all that LIBERAL shit. Trump can't go in front of an audience or a camera without reflexively lying, even when he has no motive for, or advantage to, lying. No one can trust him to not lie. He just automatically spits out whatever he thinks makes him sound good (in his ears). And Rudy is just another fucking lawyer. They're even worse than businessmen. Remember how the Conservatives here on the Zone were always droning on about Real Truth, objective truth, (yeah, Objectivism), definitions, logic etc? They always insisted on strict and precise dictionary specificity, and criticized Progressives for their situational or fuzzy logic and subjective reality. Oh yes, they were all so scientific, so obsessed with engineering accuracy and linguistic precision. In their world of black and white, their-way-or-the-highway dogmatism, there was no room for interpretation, for nuance, for context, point-of-view–you know, all that LIBERAL shit.

Trump can’t go in front of an audience or a camera without reflexively lying, even when he has no motive for, or advantage to, lying. No one can trust him to not lie. He just automatically spits out whatever he thinks makes him sound good (in his ears).

And Rudy is just another fucking lawyer. They’re even worse than businessmen.

]]> By: Robert https://habitablezone.com/2018/08/19/truth-isnt-truth/#comment-41883 Robert Sun, 19 Aug 2018 19:39:35 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=72527#comment-41883 Shortly after the bit you quote, Todd observed that in a he-said/she-said situation (the example being Trump's word against Comey's), a person's record for truthfulness can resolve the matter. And Rudy just ignored him. You know truth has entered the room when Rudy shuts his mouth. You can't shield a pathological liar from committing perjury, any more than the scorpion can keep from stinging the frog as they cross the river. Trump has to be true to himself. Shortly after the bit you quote, Todd observed that in a he-said/she-said situation (the example being Trump’s word against Comey’s), a person’s record for truthfulness can resolve the matter. And Rudy just ignored him. You know truth has entered the room when Rudy shuts his mouth.

You can’t shield a pathological liar from committing perjury, any more than the scorpion can keep from stinging the frog as they cross the river. Trump has to be true to himself.

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