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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42210</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2018 01:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&#039;smart&#039; means good at business.  All other smart people are pansies, and probably Liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8217;smart&#8217; means good at business.  All other smart people are pansies, and probably Liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42209</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>done</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42204</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A better educated population wouldn&#039;t elect him...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">A better educated population wouldn&#8217;t elect him&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42203</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 13:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please move to CE if possible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please move to CE if possible</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42202</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 13:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid for my own college too.

Well, I got some help from my family (a great sacrifice for them), but I&#039;d guess about 80% of my college expenses I paid for myself, I count GI Bill as &quot;money I earned&quot;, although that funding was not available to most other students, or even to me until I came back from the service.  I never applied for scholarships of any kind.  I didn&#039;t have to.  I paid for my graduate school out of my earnings on a blue collar job, but I was young, healthy, lived rough, and had no family to take care of.

But that was then.  I couldn&#039;t do that today without going into extreme debt, like most middle class kids today have to do.  I went to a state university because it was cheap, and a lot of my jobs during that time were provided by the university.  My education was subsidized by the state.  I had to come up with tuition, fees and books, but that was only a small part of what it cost the taxpayer to operate my little piece of the University of South Florida.

That&#039;s why I have always felt so strongly about this issue. I will not deny anyone else what was given freely to me because now that I am old and successful, I am too cheap to pay taxes to offer it to someone elses kids.  Everyone benefits from educating the young, not just the kids who were educated.  &lt;em&gt;The purpose of education is to help the student and the community at large, not his employer.&lt;/em&gt; And since I was subsidized by the state, it is my duty and my obligation to pay taxes so that other people&#039;s kids will have the same assistance I profited from.

I was brought up poor, not grinding, abject  poverty I&#039;ll grant you, but we were working class.  I never would be where I am now if some of the resources of the state were not diverted to me so I could earn my way out of poverty.  I owe that debt to my community and so do you. It is a solemn obligation I intend to honor. I intend to pay my share, and through my vote, see to it that you do too. 

But the Right seems to think they don&#039;t have that obligation. They see themselves as the makers, and everyone else as the takers. They are convinced they are the only ones who work, and the only ones who sacrifice, the only ones who deserve the rewards and benefits of society because everyone else is lazy and stupid and crooked.  The makers want the freedom to send their kids to whatever school they choose, but they also want those government vouchers, don&#039;t they?.  And they want to make sure that only those who can afford the price of admission get them.

Maybe that makes me a class traitor, but I am the first person in my family to join the bourgeosie; my loyalties lie elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid for my own college too.</p>
<p>Well, I got some help from my family (a great sacrifice for them), but I&#8217;d guess about 80% of my college expenses I paid for myself, I count GI Bill as &#8220;money I earned&#8221;, although that funding was not available to most other students, or even to me until I came back from the service.  I never applied for scholarships of any kind.  I didn&#8217;t have to.  I paid for my graduate school out of my earnings on a blue collar job, but I was young, healthy, lived rough, and had no family to take care of.</p>
<p>But that was then.  I couldn&#8217;t do that today without going into extreme debt, like most middle class kids today have to do.  I went to a state university because it was cheap, and a lot of my jobs during that time were provided by the university.  My education was subsidized by the state.  I had to come up with tuition, fees and books, but that was only a small part of what it cost the taxpayer to operate my little piece of the University of South Florida.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I have always felt so strongly about this issue. I will not deny anyone else what was given freely to me because now that I am old and successful, I am too cheap to pay taxes to offer it to someone elses kids.  Everyone benefits from educating the young, not just the kids who were educated.  <em>The purpose of education is to help the student and the community at large, not his employer.</em> And since I was subsidized by the state, it is my duty and my obligation to pay taxes so that other people&#8217;s kids will have the same assistance I profited from.</p>
<p>I was brought up poor, not grinding, abject  poverty I&#8217;ll grant you, but we were working class.  I never would be where I am now if some of the resources of the state were not diverted to me so I could earn my way out of poverty.  I owe that debt to my community and so do you. It is a solemn obligation I intend to honor. I intend to pay my share, and through my vote, see to it that you do too. </p>
<p>But the Right seems to think they don&#8217;t have that obligation. They see themselves as the makers, and everyone else as the takers. They are convinced they are the only ones who work, and the only ones who sacrifice, the only ones who deserve the rewards and benefits of society because everyone else is lazy and stupid and crooked.  The makers want the freedom to send their kids to whatever school they choose, but they also want those government vouchers, don&#8217;t they?.  And they want to make sure that only those who can afford the price of admission get them.</p>
<p>Maybe that makes me a class traitor, but I am the first person in my family to join the bourgeosie; my loyalties lie elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42201</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This obvious fact has been explained to you multiple times in many ways... why is it so difficult for you to understand? Did you not pay attention in college?

&lt;img src=&quot;https://college-education.procon.org/files/1-college-education-images/yearly-cost-of-college-v-median-incomes2.JPG&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

And that isnt the whole story... the cost to rent housing has also grown faster than wages. As has the cost of healthcare... so to go to college and live and take care of yourself has grown a huge amount more...

But there is more to it... without a degree, you are likely to only find minimum wage jobs... and the minimum wage has not kept up with the cost of living... 
&lt;img src=&quot;https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQHdkEtEWzt2TCJ2XFHcPkdazj81bUX-xMpTVM7i96A_8Zxtg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.usw.org/blog/2018/intro/Screenshot-2018-1-10-Top-charts-of-2017-12-charts-that-show-the-real-problems-policies-must-tackle-not-the-made-up-ones1.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

But even if the costs were the same, WHY is it so important to you that everyone must struggle at least as much as you did? I suggest you think on that a bit, you might realize something important about yourself.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This obvious fact has been explained to you multiple times in many ways&#8230; why is it so difficult for you to understand? Did you not pay attention in college?</p>
<p><img src="https://college-education.procon.org/files/1-college-education-images/yearly-cost-of-college-v-median-incomes2.JPG" alt="" /></p>
<p>And that isnt the whole story&#8230; the cost to rent housing has also grown faster than wages. As has the cost of healthcare&#8230; so to go to college and live and take care of yourself has grown a huge amount more&#8230;</p>
<p>But there is more to it&#8230; without a degree, you are likely to only find minimum wage jobs&#8230; and the minimum wage has not kept up with the cost of living&#8230;<br />
<img src="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQHdkEtEWzt2TCJ2XFHcPkdazj81bUX-xMpTVM7i96A_8Zxtg" alt="" /></p>
<p><img src="https://www.usw.org/blog/2018/intro/Screenshot-2018-1-10-Top-charts-of-2017-12-charts-that-show-the-real-problems-policies-must-tackle-not-the-made-up-ones1.png" alt="" /></p>
<p>But even if the costs were the same, WHY is it so important to you that everyone must struggle at least as much as you did? I suggest you think on that a bit, you might realize something important about yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42200</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 08:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s way too many ignorant voters out there. An uneducated electorate and &quot;One person, one vote&quot; is a truly unstable combination.

Helping people get into post-secondary studies--and helping them stay through to graduation--would be a good investment for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s way too many ignorant voters out there. An uneducated electorate and &#8220;One person, one vote&#8221; is a truly unstable combination.</p>
<p>Helping people get into post-secondary studies&#8211;and helping them stay through to graduation&#8211;would be a good investment for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42199</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just click the first yahoo link on the F35 that comes up in google. Don&#039;t know why it won&#039;t link directly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just click the first yahoo link on the F35 that comes up in google. Don&#8217;t know why it won&#8217;t link directly</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42198</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 05:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They.can pay for their own college. I did. You did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They.can pay for their own college. I did. You did</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2018/09/28/f35-unit-cost-goes-down/#comment-42196</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 02:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your link did not work for me... but there was this in today&#039;s news:
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-military-f-35-fighter-jet-crashes-south-181444331--sector.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-military-f-35-fighter-jet-crashes-south-181444331--sector.html&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;A U.S. military F-35B fighter jet crashed near the Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort in South Carolina on Friday, for reasons that are under investigation, local law officials and the U.S. military said.

The pilot, the only person aboard the craft, ejected safely and was being checked for injuries, said a Pentagon spokesman, adding that there were no other injuries.

The jet crashed just before noon local time. It was a Lockheed Martin F-35B, a short take-off/vertical landing version of the F-35, said a U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


============
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-10/f-35-program-costs-jump-to-406-billion-in-new-pentagon-estimate&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-10/f-35-program-costs-jump-to-406-billion-in-new-pentagon-estimate&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;The cost of the F-35 jet program, already the most expensive U.S. weapons program ever, is estimated to climb further as the plane’s production period gets extended, according to figures submitted to Congress on Monday.

Total acquisition costs for Lockheed Martin Corp.’s next-generation fighter may rise about 7 percent to $406.5 billion, according to figures in a document known as a Selected Acquisition Report. That’s a reversal after several years of estimates that had declined to $379 billion recently from a previous high of $398.5 billion in early 2014.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


400 billion would pay for 5,000,000 students to go to 4 years of university- which investment would do more for America?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your link did not work for me&#8230; but there was this in today&#8217;s news:<br />
<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-military-f-35-fighter-jet-crashes-south-181444331--sector.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-military-f-35-fighter-jet-crashes-south-181444331&#8211;sector.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>A U.S. military F-35B fighter jet crashed near the Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort in South Carolina on Friday, for reasons that are under investigation, local law officials and the U.S. military said.</p>
<p>The pilot, the only person aboard the craft, ejected safely and was being checked for injuries, said a Pentagon spokesman, adding that there were no other injuries.</p>
<p>The jet crashed just before noon local time. It was a Lockheed Martin F-35B, a short take-off/vertical landing version of the F-35, said a U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
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<p>============<br />
<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-10/f-35-program-costs-jump-to-406-billion-in-new-pentagon-estimate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-10/f-35-program-costs-jump-to-406-billion-in-new-pentagon-estimate</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The cost of the F-35 jet program, already the most expensive U.S. weapons program ever, is estimated to climb further as the plane’s production period gets extended, according to figures submitted to Congress on Monday.</p>
<p>Total acquisition costs for Lockheed Martin Corp.’s next-generation fighter may rise about 7 percent to $406.5 billion, according to figures in a document known as a Selected Acquisition Report. That’s a reversal after several years of estimates that had declined to $379 billion recently from a previous high of $398.5 billion in early 2014.
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<p>400 billion would pay for 5,000,000 students to go to 4 years of university- which investment would do more for America?</p>
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