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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2019/03/29/fossils-found-from-the-day-of-the-asteroid-impact/#comment-43168</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 22:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just now reading and digesting
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/03/27/1817407116&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/03/27/1817407116&lt;/a&gt;

PDF:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just now reading and digesting<br />
<a href="https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/03/27/1817407116" rel="nofollow">https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/03/27/1817407116</a></p>
<p>PDF:</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2019/03/29/fossils-found-from-the-day-of-the-asteroid-impact/#comment-43162</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 01:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the meek inherited the earth</description>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent article. Even my sister forwarded it to me! 

To begin, I have lots of questions. I want maps, cross-sections, stratigraphic columns, pictures and petrographic slides. So I&#039;ll have to wait for publication. I hope the team allows another team of paleontologists to work the site - not just visit it. 


I understand DePalma&#039;s caution. As the article mentions, there have been some pretty nasty &quot;bone wars&quot; between paleontologists, including using dynamite to destroy rivals digs. Also, academia can also be nasty. He doesn&#039;t have a Doctorate yet, and that will bother some. One the other hand, DePalma has a reputation for exaggeration. We have to let the rocks speak for themselves.


I really want this to be verified. What an incredible find!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent article. Even my sister forwarded it to me! </p>
<p>To begin, I have lots of questions. I want maps, cross-sections, stratigraphic columns, pictures and petrographic slides. So I&#8217;ll have to wait for publication. I hope the team allows another team of paleontologists to work the site &#8211; not just visit it. </p>
<p>I understand DePalma&#8217;s caution. As the article mentions, there have been some pretty nasty &#8220;bone wars&#8221; between paleontologists, including using dynamite to destroy rivals digs. Also, academia can also be nasty. He doesn&#8217;t have a Doctorate yet, and that will bother some. One the other hand, DePalma has a reputation for exaggeration. We have to let the rocks speak for themselves.</p>
<p>I really want this to be verified. What an incredible find!</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2019/03/29/fossils-found-from-the-day-of-the-asteroid-impact/#comment-43160</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 22:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe all dinosaurs were wiped out, but birds (a reptiloid offshoot) flourished.  And a lot of other reptiles survive to this day.  Maybe the dinosaurs (many of which must have exploited similar ecological niches as fishes, birds, mammals, reptiles and amphibians) had some other vulnerability or weakness we are not aware of.

Not all dinosaurs were clumsy, over-specialized, high-maintenance behemoths, there must have been many small, adaptable and hardy  species which could have made it. We know some (but not all) were egg-layers. They appear to have been very successful and widespread across many habitats, the most varied and dominant megafauna on the planet: the most common vertebrate of all.  And yet, the relatively fragile frogs and salamanders survived easily, and dinosaurs did not. 

Its almost as if some catastrophe hit today and wiped out all the insects, but the crustaceans, scorpions, mites and spiders survived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe all dinosaurs were wiped out, but birds (a reptiloid offshoot) flourished.  And a lot of other reptiles survive to this day.  Maybe the dinosaurs (many of which must have exploited similar ecological niches as fishes, birds, mammals, reptiles and amphibians) had some other vulnerability or weakness we are not aware of.</p>
<p>Not all dinosaurs were clumsy, over-specialized, high-maintenance behemoths, there must have been many small, adaptable and hardy  species which could have made it. We know some (but not all) were egg-layers. They appear to have been very successful and widespread across many habitats, the most varied and dominant megafauna on the planet: the most common vertebrate of all.  And yet, the relatively fragile frogs and salamanders survived easily, and dinosaurs did not. </p>
<p>Its almost as if some catastrophe hit today and wiped out all the insects, but the crustaceans, scorpions, mites and spiders survived.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2019/03/29/fossils-found-from-the-day-of-the-asteroid-impact/#comment-43159</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That suggests mammals recovered pretty damn quickly...</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2019/03/29/fossils-found-from-the-day-of-the-asteroid-impact/#comment-43156</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that if you excavate along the K-T interface, you&#039;re likely to find fossils associated with the asteroid event.
What seems incredibly lucky is that we would stumble across so many different fossils containing easily identified direct and unambiguous evidence of the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that if you excavate along the K-T interface, you&#8217;re likely to find fossils associated with the asteroid event.<br />
What seems incredibly lucky is that we would stumble across so many different fossils containing easily identified direct and unambiguous evidence of the event.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2019/03/29/fossils-found-from-the-day-of-the-asteroid-impact/#comment-43155</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Pod has a better idea if its &#039;too good to be true&#039;</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 03:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be tempted to believe this is all just an elaborate April Fool&#039;s
joke</description>
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joke</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 03:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-day-the-dinosaurs-died&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-day-the-dinosaurs-died&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The following day, DePalma noticed a small disturbance preserved in the sediment. About three inches in diameter, it appeared to be a crater formed by an object that had fallen from the sky and plunked down in mud. Similar formations, caused by hailstones hitting a muddy surface, had been found before in the fossil record. As DePalma shaved back the layers to make a cross-­section of the crater, he found the thing itself—not a hailstone but a small white sphere—at the bottom of the crater. It was a tektite, about three millimetres in diameter—the fallout from an ancient asteroid impact. As he continued excavating, he found another crater with a tektite at the bottom, and another, and another. Glass turns to clay over millions of years, and these tektites were now clay, but some still had glassy cores. The microtektites he had found earlier might have been carried there by water, but these had been trapped where they fell—on what, DePalma believed, must have been the very day of the disaster.

“When I saw that, I knew this wasn’t just any flood deposit,” DePalma said. “We weren’t just near the KT boundary—this whole site is the KT boundary!” From surveying and mapping the layers, DePalma hypothesized that a massive inland surge of water flooded a river valley and filled the low-lying area where we now stood, perhaps as a result of the KT-impact tsunami, which had roared across the proto-Gulf and up the Western Interior Seaway. As the water slowed and became slack, it deposited everything that had been caught up in its travels—the heaviest material first, up to whatever was floating on the surface. All of it was quickly entombed and preserved in the muck: dying and dead creatures, both marine and freshwater; plants, seeds, tree trunks, roots, cones, pine needles, flowers, and pollen; shells, bones, teeth, and eggs; tektites, shocked minerals, tiny diamonds, iridium-laden dust, ash, charcoal, and amber-smeared wood. As the sediments settled, blobs of glass rained into the mud, the largest first, then finer and finer bits, until grains sifted down like snow.

“We have the whole KT event preserved in these sediments,” DePalma said. “With this deposit, we can chart what happened the day the Cretaceous died.” No paleontological site remotely like it had ever been found, and, if DePalma’s hypothesis proves correct, the scientific value of the site will be immense. When Walter Alvarez visited the dig last summer, he was astounded. “It is truly a magnificent site,” he wrote to me, adding that it’s “surely one of the best sites ever found for telling just what happened on the day of the impact.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;DePalma scraped the area smooth with his bayonet, then sprayed it. “You’re darn right it is,” he said. “And this isn’t the burrow of a small dinosaur. It’s a mammal burrow.” (Burrows have characteristic shapes, depending on the species that inhabit them.) He peered at it, his eyes inches from the rock, probing it with the tip of the bayonet. “Gosh, I think it’s still in there!”

He planned to remove the entire burrow intact, in a block, and run it through a CT scanner back home, to see what it contained. “Any Cretaceous mammal burrow is incredibly rare,” he said. “But this one is impossible—it’s dug right through the KT boundary.” Perhaps, he said, the mammal survived the impact and the flood, burrowed into the mud to escape the freezing darkness, then died. “It may have been born in the Cretaceous and died in the Paleocene,” he said. “And to think—sixty-­six million years later, a stinky monkey is digging it up, trying to figure out what happened.” He added, “If it’s a new species, I’ll name it after you.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;Gradually, DePalma was piecing together a potential picture of the disaster. By the time the site flooded, the surrounding forest was already on fire, given the abundance of charcoal, charred wood, and amber he’d found at the site. The water arrived not as a curling wave but as a powerful, roiling rise, packed with disoriented fish and plant and animal debris, which, DePalma hypothesized, were laid down as the water slowed and receded.

In the lab, DePalma showed me magnified cross-sections of the sediment. Most of its layers were horizontal, but a few formed curlicues or flamelike patterns called truncated flame structures, which were caused by a combination of weight from above and mini-surges in the incoming water. DePalma found five sets of these patterns. He turned back to the block on his table and held a magnifying lens up to the tektite. Parallel, streaming lines were visible on its surface—Schlieren lines, formed by two types of molten glass swirling together as the blobs arced through the atmosphere. Peering through the lens, DePalma picked away at the block with a dental probe. He soon exposed a section of pink, pearlescent shell, which had been pushed up against the sturgeon. “Ammonite,” he said. Ammonites were marine mollusks that somewhat resemble the present-day nautilus, although they were more closely related to squid and octopi. As DePalma uncovered more of the shell, I watched its vibrant color fade. “Live ammonite, ripped apart by the tsunami—they don’t travel well,” he said. “Genus Sphenodiscus, I would think.” The shell, which hadn’t previously been documented in the Hell Creek Formation, was another marine victim tossed inland.

He stood up. “Now I’m going to show you something special,” he said, opening a wooden crate and removing an object that was covered in aluminum foil. He unwrapped a sixteen-inch fossil feather, and held it in his palms like a piece of Lalique glass. “When I found the first feather, I had about twenty seconds of disbelief,” he said. DePalma had studied under Larry Martin, a world authority on the Cretaceous predecessors of birds, and had been “exposed to a lot of fossil feathers. When I encountered this damn thing, I immediately understood the importance of it. And now look at this.”

From the lab table, he grabbed a fossil forearm belonging to Dakotaraptor, the dinosaur species he’d discovered in Hell Creek. He pointed to a series of regular bumps on the bone. “These are probably quill knobs,” he said. “This dinosaur had feathers on its forearms. Now watch.” With precision calipers, he measured the diameter of the quill knobs, then the diameter of the quill of the fossil feather; both were 3.5 millimetres. “This matches,” he said. “This says a feather of this size would be associated with a limb of this size.”

There was more, including a piece of a partly burned tree trunk with am­ber stuck to it. He showed me a photo of the amber seen through a micro­scope. Trapped inside were two impact particles—another landmark discovery, because the amber would have preserved their chemical composition. (All other tektites found from the impact, exposed to the elements for millions of years, have chemically changed.) He’d also found scores of beautiful examples of lonsdaleite, a hexagonal form of diamond that is associated with impacts; it forms when carbon in an asteroid is compressed so violently that it crystallizes into trillions of microscopic grains, which are blasted into the air and drift down.

Finally, he showed me a photograph of a fossil jawbone; it belonged to the mammal he’d found in the burrow. “This is the jaw of Dougie,” he said. The bone was big for a Cretaceous mammal—three inches long—and almost complete, with a tooth. After my visit to Hell Creek, DePalma had removed the animal’s burrow intact, still encased in the block of sediment, and, with the help of some women who worked as cashiers at the Travel Center, in Bowman, hoisted it into the back of his truck. He believes that the jaw belonged to a marsupial that looked like a weasel. Using the tooth, he could conduct a stable-isotope study to find out what the animal ate—“what the menu was after the disaster,” he said. The rest of the mammal remains in the burrow, to be researched later.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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<blockquote><p>The following day, DePalma noticed a small disturbance preserved in the sediment. About three inches in diameter, it appeared to be a crater formed by an object that had fallen from the sky and plunked down in mud. Similar formations, caused by hailstones hitting a muddy surface, had been found before in the fossil record. As DePalma shaved back the layers to make a cross-­section of the crater, he found the thing itself—not a hailstone but a small white sphere—at the bottom of the crater. It was a tektite, about three millimetres in diameter—the fallout from an ancient asteroid impact. As he continued excavating, he found another crater with a tektite at the bottom, and another, and another. Glass turns to clay over millions of years, and these tektites were now clay, but some still had glassy cores. The microtektites he had found earlier might have been carried there by water, but these had been trapped where they fell—on what, DePalma believed, must have been the very day of the disaster.</p>
<p>“When I saw that, I knew this wasn’t just any flood deposit,” DePalma said. “We weren’t just near the KT boundary—this whole site is the KT boundary!” From surveying and mapping the layers, DePalma hypothesized that a massive inland surge of water flooded a river valley and filled the low-lying area where we now stood, perhaps as a result of the KT-impact tsunami, which had roared across the proto-Gulf and up the Western Interior Seaway. As the water slowed and became slack, it deposited everything that had been caught up in its travels—the heaviest material first, up to whatever was floating on the surface. All of it was quickly entombed and preserved in the muck: dying and dead creatures, both marine and freshwater; plants, seeds, tree trunks, roots, cones, pine needles, flowers, and pollen; shells, bones, teeth, and eggs; tektites, shocked minerals, tiny diamonds, iridium-laden dust, ash, charcoal, and amber-smeared wood. As the sediments settled, blobs of glass rained into the mud, the largest first, then finer and finer bits, until grains sifted down like snow.</p>
<p>“We have the whole KT event preserved in these sediments,” DePalma said. “With this deposit, we can chart what happened the day the Cretaceous died.” No paleontological site remotely like it had ever been found, and, if DePalma’s hypothesis proves correct, the scientific value of the site will be immense. When Walter Alvarez visited the dig last summer, he was astounded. “It is truly a magnificent site,” he wrote to me, adding that it’s “surely one of the best sites ever found for telling just what happened on the day of the impact.”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>DePalma scraped the area smooth with his bayonet, then sprayed it. “You’re darn right it is,” he said. “And this isn’t the burrow of a small dinosaur. It’s a mammal burrow.” (Burrows have characteristic shapes, depending on the species that inhabit them.) He peered at it, his eyes inches from the rock, probing it with the tip of the bayonet. “Gosh, I think it’s still in there!”</p>
<p>He planned to remove the entire burrow intact, in a block, and run it through a CT scanner back home, to see what it contained. “Any Cretaceous mammal burrow is incredibly rare,” he said. “But this one is impossible—it’s dug right through the KT boundary.” Perhaps, he said, the mammal survived the impact and the flood, burrowed into the mud to escape the freezing darkness, then died. “It may have been born in the Cretaceous and died in the Paleocene,” he said. “And to think—sixty-­six million years later, a stinky monkey is digging it up, trying to figure out what happened.” He added, “If it’s a new species, I’ll name it after you.”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Gradually, DePalma was piecing together a potential picture of the disaster. By the time the site flooded, the surrounding forest was already on fire, given the abundance of charcoal, charred wood, and amber he’d found at the site. The water arrived not as a curling wave but as a powerful, roiling rise, packed with disoriented fish and plant and animal debris, which, DePalma hypothesized, were laid down as the water slowed and receded.</p>
<p>In the lab, DePalma showed me magnified cross-sections of the sediment. Most of its layers were horizontal, but a few formed curlicues or flamelike patterns called truncated flame structures, which were caused by a combination of weight from above and mini-surges in the incoming water. DePalma found five sets of these patterns. He turned back to the block on his table and held a magnifying lens up to the tektite. Parallel, streaming lines were visible on its surface—Schlieren lines, formed by two types of molten glass swirling together as the blobs arced through the atmosphere. Peering through the lens, DePalma picked away at the block with a dental probe. He soon exposed a section of pink, pearlescent shell, which had been pushed up against the sturgeon. “Ammonite,” he said. Ammonites were marine mollusks that somewhat resemble the present-day nautilus, although they were more closely related to squid and octopi. As DePalma uncovered more of the shell, I watched its vibrant color fade. “Live ammonite, ripped apart by the tsunami—they don’t travel well,” he said. “Genus Sphenodiscus, I would think.” The shell, which hadn’t previously been documented in the Hell Creek Formation, was another marine victim tossed inland.</p>
<p>He stood up. “Now I’m going to show you something special,” he said, opening a wooden crate and removing an object that was covered in aluminum foil. He unwrapped a sixteen-inch fossil feather, and held it in his palms like a piece of Lalique glass. “When I found the first feather, I had about twenty seconds of disbelief,” he said. DePalma had studied under Larry Martin, a world authority on the Cretaceous predecessors of birds, and had been “exposed to a lot of fossil feathers. When I encountered this damn thing, I immediately understood the importance of it. And now look at this.”</p>
<p>From the lab table, he grabbed a fossil forearm belonging to Dakotaraptor, the dinosaur species he’d discovered in Hell Creek. He pointed to a series of regular bumps on the bone. “These are probably quill knobs,” he said. “This dinosaur had feathers on its forearms. Now watch.” With precision calipers, he measured the diameter of the quill knobs, then the diameter of the quill of the fossil feather; both were 3.5 millimetres. “This matches,” he said. “This says a feather of this size would be associated with a limb of this size.”</p>
<p>There was more, including a piece of a partly burned tree trunk with am­ber stuck to it. He showed me a photo of the amber seen through a micro­scope. Trapped inside were two impact particles—another landmark discovery, because the amber would have preserved their chemical composition. (All other tektites found from the impact, exposed to the elements for millions of years, have chemically changed.) He’d also found scores of beautiful examples of lonsdaleite, a hexagonal form of diamond that is associated with impacts; it forms when carbon in an asteroid is compressed so violently that it crystallizes into trillions of microscopic grains, which are blasted into the air and drift down.</p>
<p>Finally, he showed me a photograph of a fossil jawbone; it belonged to the mammal he’d found in the burrow. “This is the jaw of Dougie,” he said. The bone was big for a Cretaceous mammal—three inches long—and almost complete, with a tooth. After my visit to Hell Creek, DePalma had removed the animal’s burrow intact, still encased in the block of sediment, and, with the help of some women who worked as cashiers at the Travel Center, in Bowman, hoisted it into the back of his truck. He believes that the jaw belonged to a marsupial that looked like a weasel. Using the tooth, he could conduct a stable-isotope study to find out what the animal ate—“what the menu was after the disaster,” he said. The rest of the mammal remains in the burrow, to be researched later.</p></blockquote>
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