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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/06/15/if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases-if-any/#comment-44892</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2020 01:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/20/trump-rally-tulsa-oklahoma-live-updates-coronavirus/3207784001/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Because, as he explained, &#039;testing makes the numbers go up&#039;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nbcnews.com/video/-slow-the-testing-down-trump-says-he-asked-administration-to-slow-coronavirus-testing-85519429952&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.nbcnews.com/video/-slow-the-testing-down-trump-says-he-asked-administration-to-slow-coronavirus-testing-85519429952&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;COVID. To be specific, COVID-19. That name gets further and further away from China, as opposed to calling it the Chinese virus,&quot; he said. &quot;We - I - did a phenomenal job with it.&quot;

Trump said he told his administration, &quot;slow the testing down, please&quot; reiterating his argument that higher test numbers led to higher case counts. 

He imitated a doctor talking about a 10-year-old with “sniffles” who would conclude “that’s a case!” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

120,000 dead, and many tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands to follow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/20/trump-rally-tulsa-oklahoma-live-updates-coronavirus/3207784001/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Because, as he explained, &#8216;testing makes the numbers go up&#8217;</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/-slow-the-testing-down-trump-says-he-asked-administration-to-slow-coronavirus-testing-85519429952" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.nbcnews.com/video/-slow-the-testing-down-trump-says-he-asked-administration-to-slow-coronavirus-testing-85519429952</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;COVID. To be specific, COVID-19. That name gets further and further away from China, as opposed to calling it the Chinese virus,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We &#8211; I &#8211; did a phenomenal job with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trump said he told his administration, &#8220;slow the testing down, please&#8221; reiterating his argument that higher test numbers led to higher case counts. </p>
<p>He imitated a doctor talking about a 10-year-old with “sniffles” who would conclude “that’s a case!” </p></blockquote>
<p>120,000 dead, and many tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands to follow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/06/15/if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases-if-any/#comment-44847</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 17:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The context is that he has repeatedly spoken and acted as if the KNOWN numbers are the problem, that knowing the scale of the problem is what brings harm...

That is why he fought against a testing program, its why he has denied it was a problem from day one, and that is why, in large part, we are at 120,000 dead americans.... with no decline in the rate as seen in other countries with competent leadership...

The science says the increase we are seeing is NOT due to increased testing, the virus is spreading again, the increasing hospital admissions bear this out...reaching a crisis level in many states.


And today he said the virus is &quot;dying out&quot;- another delusional claim that will lead to more americans &quot;dying out&quot;
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/trump-says-the-coroanvirus-is-dying-out-despite-spike-in-cases/


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/502819-trump-on-coronavirus-if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;President Trump on Monday downplayed concerns of a rising number of coronavirus cases in states across the country, indicating that the increase was due to more testing.&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any,” Trump said during a White House event highlighting administration actions to help senior citizens.

Trump has frequently made inconsistent comments on testing. At times he has sought to downplay the severity of the coronavirus pandemic by saying the U.S. has tested more people than any other country, and as a result, the number of confirmed cases is higher.

Other times, Trump has complained that the positivity rates and case counts are too high, because the country has been testing so many people.

Trump&#039;s dual views on testing were on full display in a message tweeted Monday morning. 

&quot;Our testing is so much bigger and more advanced than any other country (we have done a great job on this!) that it shows more cases. Without testing, or weak testing, we would be showing almost no cases. Testing is a double edged sword - Makes us look bad, but good to have!!!&quot; Trump tweeted.

Vice President Pence made similar comments on Monday, suggesting the White House has already shifted focus from addressing the health impacts of the virus to holding campaign rallies and reopening states as quickly as possible.

The Trump administration has signaled it has no interest in the nation having a new series of lockdowns given the economic damage shutting down the country has already had. 

Administration health officials like White House coronavirus task force coordinator Deborah Birx and Anthony Fauci have played considerably less of a public role since the White House ended daily coronavirus briefings in April.

The pandemic has hit the United States during an election year, and Trump&#039;s poll numbers have fallen in the midst of the crisis.

Yet even as health experts are warning about surges in states such as Texas, Florida, Arizona, Alabama, Oklahoma and Arkansas, Pence said the country has been making “steady progress” toward putting the coronavirus “farther and farther in the past.”

Pence said the spike was likely due to a “dramatic increase in testing.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The context is that he has repeatedly spoken and acted as if the KNOWN numbers are the problem, that knowing the scale of the problem is what brings harm&#8230;</p>
<p>That is why he fought against a testing program, its why he has denied it was a problem from day one, and that is why, in large part, we are at 120,000 dead americans&#8230;. with no decline in the rate as seen in other countries with competent leadership&#8230;</p>
<p>The science says the increase we are seeing is NOT due to increased testing, the virus is spreading again, the increasing hospital admissions bear this out&#8230;reaching a crisis level in many states.</p>
<p>And today he said the virus is &#8220;dying out&#8221;- another delusional claim that will lead to more americans &#8220;dying out&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/trump-says-the-coroanvirus-is-dying-out-despite-spike-in-cases/" rel="nofollow">https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/trump-says-the-coroanvirus-is-dying-out-despite-spike-in-cases/</a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/502819-trump-on-coronavirus-if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">President Trump on Monday downplayed concerns of a rising number of coronavirus cases in states across the country, indicating that the increase was due to more testing.</a></p>
<p>&#8220;If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any,” Trump said during a White House event highlighting administration actions to help senior citizens.</p>
<p>Trump has frequently made inconsistent comments on testing. At times he has sought to downplay the severity of the coronavirus pandemic by saying the U.S. has tested more people than any other country, and as a result, the number of confirmed cases is higher.</p>
<p>Other times, Trump has complained that the positivity rates and case counts are too high, because the country has been testing so many people.</p>
<p>Trump&#8217;s dual views on testing were on full display in a message tweeted Monday morning. </p>
<p>&#8220;Our testing is so much bigger and more advanced than any other country (we have done a great job on this!) that it shows more cases. Without testing, or weak testing, we would be showing almost no cases. Testing is a double edged sword &#8211; Makes us look bad, but good to have!!!&#8221; Trump tweeted.</p>
<p>Vice President Pence made similar comments on Monday, suggesting the White House has already shifted focus from addressing the health impacts of the virus to holding campaign rallies and reopening states as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>The Trump administration has signaled it has no interest in the nation having a new series of lockdowns given the economic damage shutting down the country has already had. </p>
<p>Administration health officials like White House coronavirus task force coordinator Deborah Birx and Anthony Fauci have played considerably less of a public role since the White House ended daily coronavirus briefings in April.</p>
<p>The pandemic has hit the United States during an election year, and Trump&#8217;s poll numbers have fallen in the midst of the crisis.</p>
<p>Yet even as health experts are warning about surges in states such as Texas, Florida, Arizona, Alabama, Oklahoma and Arkansas, Pence said the country has been making “steady progress” toward putting the coronavirus “farther and farther in the past.”</p>
<p>Pence said the spike was likely due to a “dramatic increase in testing.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: VelociraptorBlade</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/06/15/if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases-if-any/#comment-44841</link>
		<dc:creator>VelociraptorBlade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the quote from?  Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the quote from?  Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/06/15/if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases-if-any/#comment-44835</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 04:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been through this with someone I loved. It gets worse. And weird.

Strap in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been through this with someone I loved. It gets worse. And weird.</p>
<p>Strap in.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/06/15/if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases-if-any/#comment-44833</link>
		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 03:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not only stupid enough to believe that, he&#039;s stupid enough to say it, and he&#039;s stupid enough to not realize how stupid it sounds.

Remember, smart people are cowards, they&#039;re indecisive, they&#039;re effeminate, unpatriotic, weak, they&#039;re &quot;not like us&quot;.  He&#039;s exactly what they&#039;ve been waiting for.  Now, the question is, is he really that stupid, or is he just giving his followers exactly what they want to hear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not only stupid enough to believe that, he&#8217;s stupid enough to say it, and he&#8217;s stupid enough to not realize how stupid it sounds.</p>
<p>Remember, smart people are cowards, they&#8217;re indecisive, they&#8217;re effeminate, unpatriotic, weak, they&#8217;re &#8220;not like us&#8221;.  He&#8217;s exactly what they&#8217;ve been waiting for.  Now, the question is, is he really that stupid, or is he just giving his followers exactly what they want to hear?</p>
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