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		<title>By: Vitruvius</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/10/02/robvg-tb-frankc-steves-and-jody-all-need-to-get-tested-asap/#comment-46020</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give those who feel divided, separated, or apart in general a safe-space with an understanding &quot;in&quot; crowd, and the market exists.  Only by uniting people and breaking down barriers, can we keep them from becoming &quot;rural&quot;.  This is why we need to reach out to people, and not push them apart, and it&#039;s why I keep calling RL out for his lycanthropic howlings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give those who feel divided, separated, or apart in general a safe-space with an understanding &#8220;in&#8221; crowd, and the market exists.  Only by uniting people and breaking down barriers, can we keep them from becoming &#8220;rural&#8221;.  This is why we need to reach out to people, and not push them apart, and it&#8217;s why I keep calling RL out for his lycanthropic howlings.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitruvius</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/10/02/robvg-tb-frankc-steves-and-jody-all-need-to-get-tested-asap/#comment-46019</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself getting burned more the older I get too.  Still have hope, though.

As for &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming&quot; title=&quot;Neuro-Linguistic Programming&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Neuro-Linguistic Programming&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, thankfully it&#039;s been repeatedly disproben to the point of being a pseudoscience.  Concerning the science of advertising, the rise of interconnectivity means information about and against these methods once they become known - and they will become known.  Information wants to be free, after all.

When things look bad, check the numbers.  Crime reports are going up, but that just means more people are speaking out about what&#039;s already there.  Literacy&#039;s up, education&#039;s up, and people who are willing to speak out and act are up.  I&#039;m not old yet, but numbers like these help keep it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself getting burned more the older I get too.  Still have hope, though.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming" title="Neuro-Linguistic Programming" rel="nofollow">Neuro-Linguistic Programming</a>&#8220;, thankfully it&#8217;s been repeatedly disproben to the point of being a pseudoscience.  Concerning the science of advertising, the rise of interconnectivity means information about and against these methods once they become known &#8211; and they will become known.  Information wants to be free, after all.</p>
<p>When things look bad, check the numbers.  Crime reports are going up, but that just means more people are speaking out about what&#8217;s already there.  Literacy&#8217;s up, education&#8217;s up, and people who are willing to speak out and act are up.  I&#8217;m not old yet, but numbers like these help keep it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2020 18:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2020 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He really meant &quot;utes&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2020 00:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientology targets the wealthy. NXIVM preyed upon people who inherited money and felt guilty about it. The more money they can spend on the e-meter sessions the better!

It really is no different from the prosperity gospel folks who say if you send me money God will reward you with more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology targets the wealthy. NXIVM preyed upon people who inherited money and felt guilty about it. The more money they can spend on the e-meter sessions the better!</p>
<p>It really is no different from the prosperity gospel folks who say if you send me money God will reward you with more.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2020 23:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did you say &quot;yewts?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

Naw, I&#039;m not blaming the yewts, or anyone for that matter. I&#039;m observing the acceleration of information over the centuries and how that information is used or employed.

Since humans first started to make marks in clay information has been used for propaganda. But it was slow. With the continual growth of information technology we have reached another printing press moment, including the unpredictable results.

I&#039;m also observing the feedback between the providers of information (their motives and techniques) and the recipients (their attention and response.) What is different from previous historical examples is that the recipients are also the creators. That&#039;s new, which complicates the feedback process. It&#039;s become more fractal.

Propagandists, or those wanting to influence opinions, are also a hell of a lot smarter than they have ever been. Persuasion is a science now, not just an art. Decades of serious advertising studies have instructed how to convince people. Things like NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programing) can be quite powerful. Brainwashing, basically. And the new cults of our age know this quite well. So do con men.

Indeed Fearmongers exist, selling fear, and people pay attention to them. That&#039;s the problem. We are susceptible to skillfully deployed information. Sometimes one needs to get burned to get woke. 

I&#039;m more optimistic than I come across. But more skeptical the older I get. It&#039;s the burn scars, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you say &#8220;yewts?&#8221;</p>
<p>Naw, I&#8217;m not blaming the yewts, or anyone for that matter. I&#8217;m observing the acceleration of information over the centuries and how that information is used or employed.</p>
<p>Since humans first started to make marks in clay information has been used for propaganda. But it was slow. With the continual growth of information technology we have reached another printing press moment, including the unpredictable results.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also observing the feedback between the providers of information (their motives and techniques) and the recipients (their attention and response.) What is different from previous historical examples is that the recipients are also the creators. That&#8217;s new, which complicates the feedback process. It&#8217;s become more fractal.</p>
<p>Propagandists, or those wanting to influence opinions, are also a hell of a lot smarter than they have ever been. Persuasion is a science now, not just an art. Decades of serious advertising studies have instructed how to convince people. Things like NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programing) can be quite powerful. Brainwashing, basically. And the new cults of our age know this quite well. So do con men.</p>
<p>Indeed Fearmongers exist, selling fear, and people pay attention to them. That&#8217;s the problem. We are susceptible to skillfully deployed information. Sometimes one needs to get burned to get woke. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m more optimistic than I come across. But more skeptical the older I get. It&#8217;s the burn scars, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitruvius</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2020/10/02/robvg-tb-frankc-steves-and-jody-all-need-to-get-tested-asap/#comment-45971</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2020 22:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of these &quot;sad, alone, and bitter&quot; individuals are not being given an out, once they fall in with the wrong crowd.  Combined with the fact that they exist mainly in the rural areas, where information and transportation are limited, it&#039;s no wonder they fall prey to the Dark Side.

Reach out to these communities, these people.  Give them easier access to the rest of the world, and be patient and forgiving.  Humanity wants to be united, and they&#039;ll come around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of these &#8220;sad, alone, and bitter&#8221; individuals are not being given an out, once they fall in with the wrong crowd.  Combined with the fact that they exist mainly in the rural areas, where information and transportation are limited, it&#8217;s no wonder they fall prey to the Dark Side.</p>
<p>Reach out to these communities, these people.  Give them easier access to the rest of the world, and be patient and forgiving.  Humanity wants to be united, and they&#8217;ll come around.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitruvius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2020 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for some reason, everyone always blames the yewts.

4chan may have given us QAnon, but they also gave us Anonymous, and Project Chanology, so I&#039;d say the benefits outweigh the harm - even if they&#039;re a buncha degenerates.

As for &quot;brown shirts&quot;, its common knowledge that any illegal acts (threats, cheese pizza requests, and general declarations of intent), are immediately reported by the boards to the authorities.  For all the hate they get, they do go to lengths to comply with legal doctrine, and to keep things clean.  The extremists who didn&#039;t care for this, went to new sites, which have since been shuttered.

The remaining groups, while solidified beyond the public eye, are exactly that - beyond public knowledge and interest.  Exclusion like that tends to inhibit &quot;recruitment&quot;, especially when noone knows where to find them.

Remember - things look increasingly bad in the age of mass media, but that&#039;s mainly due to previously unknown events receiving a scrutinous spotlight.  &lt;em&gt;This is a good thing!&lt;/em&gt;  Not only are most negative news events less common and intense than what when unnoticed before the rise of electronic media, but now more people are being made aware of what is occurring, and responding to it.  Fearmongers will exist, but they&#039;re always selling something, so no attention should be paid to them.

We &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; aware.  We are watchful.  But we are not, and never should be, afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for some reason, everyone always blames the yewts.</p>
<p>4chan may have given us QAnon, but they also gave us Anonymous, and Project Chanology, so I&#8217;d say the benefits outweigh the harm &#8211; even if they&#8217;re a buncha degenerates.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;brown shirts&#8221;, its common knowledge that any illegal acts (threats, cheese pizza requests, and general declarations of intent), are immediately reported by the boards to the authorities.  For all the hate they get, they do go to lengths to comply with legal doctrine, and to keep things clean.  The extremists who didn&#8217;t care for this, went to new sites, which have since been shuttered.</p>
<p>The remaining groups, while solidified beyond the public eye, are exactly that &#8211; beyond public knowledge and interest.  Exclusion like that tends to inhibit &#8220;recruitment&#8221;, especially when noone knows where to find them.</p>
<p>Remember &#8211; things look increasingly bad in the age of mass media, but that&#8217;s mainly due to previously unknown events receiving a scrutinous spotlight.  <em>This is a good thing!</em>  Not only are most negative news events less common and intense than what when unnoticed before the rise of electronic media, but now more people are being made aware of what is occurring, and responding to it.  Fearmongers will exist, but they&#8217;re always selling something, so no attention should be paid to them.</p>
<p>We <em>are</em> aware.  We are watchful.  But we are not, and never should be, afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2020 03:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has not happened by accident, it was well thought out and done with intent.

Do you think the people crafting the conspiracy theories actually believe them? No, they lovingly craft them to have the influence they want. To push the faithful just a bit further into unthinking zealotry...

And most importantly, the conspiracy theories give people an &#039;excuse&#039; to commit any atrocity they want...

It is something we have seen countless times in history, and led to the greatest atrocities... but now it has the power of mass marketing and mass media...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has not happened by accident, it was well thought out and done with intent.</p>
<p>Do you think the people crafting the conspiracy theories actually believe them? No, they lovingly craft them to have the influence they want. To push the faithful just a bit further into unthinking zealotry&#8230;</p>
<p>And most importantly, the conspiracy theories give people an &#8216;excuse&#8217; to commit any atrocity they want&#8230;</p>
<p>It is something we have seen countless times in history, and led to the greatest atrocities&#8230; but now it has the power of mass marketing and mass media&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2020 03:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a feedback loop. That&#039;s how cults work. Find the sad, the alone, the bitter. Give them community, purpose, esoteric knowledge. Groom them. Get them pissed off. Anger is the plow to set the seeds. After that, water, and let them exercise their free will. Wipe your hands. 

Suggestion is more powerful than an order. At least once the ideology has been implanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a feedback loop. That&#8217;s how cults work. Find the sad, the alone, the bitter. Give them community, purpose, esoteric knowledge. Groom them. Get them pissed off. Anger is the plow to set the seeds. After that, water, and let them exercise their free will. Wipe your hands. </p>
<p>Suggestion is more powerful than an order. At least once the ideology has been implanted.</p>
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