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	<title>Comments on: Been hearing about the &#8220;delay&#8221; in breaching the classroom.</title>
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		<title>By: Pebble</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/05/28/been-hearing-about-the-delay-in-breaching-the-classroom/#comment-50003</link>
		<dc:creator>Pebble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2022 12:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly 20 mass shootings already since Texas :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly 20 mass shootings already since Texas <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/05/28/been-hearing-about-the-delay-in-breaching-the-classroom/#comment-49969</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 12:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAYBE...the lack of action is due to one wrong decision by an incident commander who was not even present at the scene, or perhaps it was caused by blind obedience to a playbook that left out one key observation.  Remember, responders are paramilitary, they are trained to follow orders.  Kids were calling 911 for help, but do the dispatchers communicate in real time with the on-scene personnel?  I used to work in 911, (I edited the computer maps and databases that convert lat/lon positions to addresses), that&#039;s not how its set up.

There&#039;s no doubt someone is at fault for this disaster, even if it all turns out to be a procedural error, but I&#039;m more inclined to think it was incompetence rather than downright malice. No one ever died because of my fuck-ups, but I know how easily they might have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAYBE&#8230;the lack of action is due to one wrong decision by an incident commander who was not even present at the scene, or perhaps it was caused by blind obedience to a playbook that left out one key observation.  Remember, responders are paramilitary, they are trained to follow orders.  Kids were calling 911 for help, but do the dispatchers communicate in real time with the on-scene personnel?  I used to work in 911, (I edited the computer maps and databases that convert lat/lon positions to addresses), that&#8217;s not how its set up.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt someone is at fault for this disaster, even if it all turns out to be a procedural error, but I&#8217;m more inclined to think it was incompetence rather than downright malice. No one ever died because of my fuck-ups, but I know how easily they might have.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/05/28/been-hearing-about-the-delay-in-breaching-the-classroom/#comment-49968</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 12:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANYONE can be a cop, as long as they aren&#039;t too bright to be weeded out, and are willing to follow orders without questions... 

If you are a bully with anger issues, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/law-enforcement-and-the-problem-of-white-supremacy&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a bigot with a gun fetish&lt;/a&gt;, you are encouraged to join up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANYONE can be a cop, as long as they aren&#8217;t too bright to be weeded out, and are willing to follow orders without questions&#8230; </p>
<p>If you are a bully with anger issues, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/law-enforcement-and-the-problem-of-white-supremacy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">a bigot with a gun fetish</a>, you are encouraged to join up.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 07:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are being way too charitable.  If they were too scared to save children&#039;s lives they should find another line of work.  Not everyone can be a cop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are being way too charitable.  If they were too scared to save children&#8217;s lives they should find another line of work.  Not everyone can be a cop.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 14:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t have to do anything:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/uvalde-timeline-exposes-an-ugly-truth-the-police-have-no-legal-duty-to-protect-you/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/uvalde-timeline-exposes-an-ugly-truth-the-police-have-no-legal-duty-to-protect-you/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t have to do anything:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/uvalde-timeline-exposes-an-ugly-truth-the-police-have-no-legal-duty-to-protect-you/" rel="nofollow">https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/uvalde-timeline-exposes-an-ugly-truth-the-police-have-no-legal-duty-to-protect-you/</a></p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/05/28/been-hearing-about-the-delay-in-breaching-the-classroom/#comment-49954</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 05:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 03:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the training was there but not the commitment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the training was there but not the commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 02:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America first...

The problem is not JUST guns, but it is absolutely made possible by the insanely easy access to guns. 

There is a deep sickness here- and perhaps it is impossible to see it clearly when one is embedded in it- perhaps an outsider like yourself might apprehend it more clearly.

No matter the motive, one thing these shootings all share (aside from guns) is a gunman willing to throw away his life and future- either for an imagined &#039;cause&#039;, or simply to kill himself (and it is effectively 100% of the time that it is a HIM- only men do this) in a sensational and damaging a way as possible in order to get his posthumous 15 minutes of fame. 

So hopelessness, I think, is a critical factor- suicidal certainty that you have no chance of a future. 

But hopelessness only explains the death wish, not the desire to leave as much death and destruction in your wake as possible. 

My wife speculated the issue is that Americans have a &#039;fucked up idea of glory&#039; - the idea of going out in a blaze of glory- leaving a lasting mark on this world, without regard to whether it is a positive or negative mark. Like a vandal, writing graffiti in blood. 

All these mass murderers are men- I know Americans have fucked up ideas of masculinity- that is a large part of why ended up with Trump... Many Americans see cruelty, the callous disregard for norms, disregard for laws, disregard for ethics, and blatant misogyny as the marks of a &#039;masculine&#039; man. But looking around the world  we are hardly exceptional in that respect.... right? It seems to be the human condition. &#039;Toxic masculinity&#039; has plagued all societies throughout history.

Whatever the origin of the underlying pathology, one thing is certain- this slaughter WOULD NOT HAPPEN were it not for the insane obsession with guns, and getting them into the hands of ANYONE that wants one- no matter how unstable they are.

And lets be clear- ANYONE that expresses a desire to have an assault rifle is someone that is probably too mentally unfit or emotionally immature to be allowed to have any weapons at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America first&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem is not JUST guns, but it is absolutely made possible by the insanely easy access to guns. </p>
<p>There is a deep sickness here- and perhaps it is impossible to see it clearly when one is embedded in it- perhaps an outsider like yourself might apprehend it more clearly.</p>
<p>No matter the motive, one thing these shootings all share (aside from guns) is a gunman willing to throw away his life and future- either for an imagined &#8217;cause&#8217;, or simply to kill himself (and it is effectively 100% of the time that it is a HIM- only men do this) in a sensational and damaging a way as possible in order to get his posthumous 15 minutes of fame. </p>
<p>So hopelessness, I think, is a critical factor- suicidal certainty that you have no chance of a future. </p>
<p>But hopelessness only explains the death wish, not the desire to leave as much death and destruction in your wake as possible. </p>
<p>My wife speculated the issue is that Americans have a &#8216;fucked up idea of glory&#8217; &#8211; the idea of going out in a blaze of glory- leaving a lasting mark on this world, without regard to whether it is a positive or negative mark. Like a vandal, writing graffiti in blood. </p>
<p>All these mass murderers are men- I know Americans have fucked up ideas of masculinity- that is a large part of why ended up with Trump&#8230; Many Americans see cruelty, the callous disregard for norms, disregard for laws, disregard for ethics, and blatant misogyny as the marks of a &#8216;masculine&#8217; man. But looking around the world  we are hardly exceptional in that respect&#8230;. right? It seems to be the human condition. &#8216;Toxic masculinity&#8217; has plagued all societies throughout history.</p>
<p>Whatever the origin of the underlying pathology, one thing is certain- this slaughter WOULD NOT HAPPEN were it not for the insane obsession with guns, and getting them into the hands of ANYONE that wants one- no matter how unstable they are.</p>
<p>And lets be clear- ANYONE that expresses a desire to have an assault rifle is someone that is probably too mentally unfit or emotionally immature to be allowed to have any weapons at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Pebble</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/05/28/been-hearing-about-the-delay-in-breaching-the-classroom/#comment-49950</link>
		<dc:creator>Pebble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2022 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to put the safety of children before the obsession with guns

1996 the only school shooting in the UK. 17 deaths.
1923 the only school shooting in NZ. 2 deaths.

We know how to keep our children safe.
It is a priority for us.

It’s not a priority in the USA.


We keep our school children safe because we choose to.

The US chooses not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to put the safety of children before the obsession with guns</p>
<p>1996 the only school shooting in the UK. 17 deaths.<br />
1923 the only school shooting in NZ. 2 deaths.</p>
<p>We know how to keep our children safe.<br />
It is a priority for us.</p>
<p>It’s not a priority in the USA.</p>
<p>We keep our school children safe because we choose to.</p>
<p>The US chooses not to.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2022 22:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if its not your fault, it can be a pretty humbling experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if its not your fault, it can be a pretty humbling experience.</p>
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