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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/09/14/foo-fighters/#comment-51027</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2022 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got around to reading this.  It makes no sense at all, it is so fouled up I first thought it might just be an artifact of bad translation.  But on closer inspection, you can see real inconsistencies.  For examples, many of the graphs don&#039;t have the axes labeled.  What do those numbers even stand for?  What are the units?  Furlongs per fortnight?

And have you ever seen a paper of this type with only two citations? And one of those is only a handbook of astrophysical quantities, a sourcebook or desk reference..

I happen to have one of those too, (&quot;Astrophysical Formulae&quot;, Kenneth Lang, Springer-Verlag) and it give a (B-V) value for the sun&#039;s spectral type pretty close to the one in the paper, but that refers to a traditional astronomical method for describing stellar colors.  It is the magnitude difference between  stellar images on Blue and Visual sensitive photographic emulsions.  No one would use that today in an application like this when you could read a color temperature directly off an instrument. I think they just cribbed that to make it look legit. And you&#039;re right, what the hell does color have to do with distance?

These guys are talking about imaging objects thousands of kilometers away traveling at speeds exceeding earth&#039;s escape velocity, in broad daylight,  with 6mm focal length camera lenses. and they don&#039;t even remark on the wonderfulness of it all.

This is bogus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got around to reading this.  It makes no sense at all, it is so fouled up I first thought it might just be an artifact of bad translation.  But on closer inspection, you can see real inconsistencies.  For examples, many of the graphs don&#8217;t have the axes labeled.  What do those numbers even stand for?  What are the units?  Furlongs per fortnight?</p>
<p>And have you ever seen a paper of this type with only two citations? And one of those is only a handbook of astrophysical quantities, a sourcebook or desk reference..</p>
<p>I happen to have one of those too, (&#8220;Astrophysical Formulae&#8221;, Kenneth Lang, Springer-Verlag) and it give a (B-V) value for the sun&#8217;s spectral type pretty close to the one in the paper, but that refers to a traditional astronomical method for describing stellar colors.  It is the magnitude difference between  stellar images on Blue and Visual sensitive photographic emulsions.  No one would use that today in an application like this when you could read a color temperature directly off an instrument. I think they just cribbed that to make it look legit. And you&#8217;re right, what the hell does color have to do with distance?</p>
<p>These guys are talking about imaging objects thousands of kilometers away traveling at speeds exceeding earth&#8217;s escape velocity, in broad daylight,  with 6mm focal length camera lenses. and they don&#8217;t even remark on the wonderfulness of it all.</p>
<p>This is bogus.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/09/14/foo-fighters/#comment-51005</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 07:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.11215.pdf

Sorry, but lines like:


&lt;blockquote&gt;Figures 7 and 8 show the image and color charts of the phantom object. The object is present in
only one frame, which allows us to determine its speed of at least 52 degrees per second, taking into
account the angular dimensions of the frame.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

don&#039;t inspire a lot of confidence...

And the whole claim that they can get distance from the color spectrum seems - to put it mildly- questionable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.11215.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.11215.pdf</a></p>
<p>Sorry, but lines like:</p>
<blockquote><p>Figures 7 and 8 show the image and color charts of the phantom object. The object is present in<br />
only one frame, which allows us to determine its speed of at least 52 degrees per second, taking into<br />
account the angular dimensions of the frame.</p></blockquote>
<p>don&#8217;t inspire a lot of confidence&#8230;</p>
<p>And the whole claim that they can get distance from the color spectrum seems &#8211; to put it mildly- questionable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/09/14/foo-fighters/#comment-51000</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 02:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you knew you could create such visual/electromagnetic anomalies, in a time of war...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you knew you could create such visual/electromagnetic anomalies, in a time of war&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/09/14/foo-fighters/#comment-50999</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 01:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.

Because they are not objects?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.</p>
<p>Because they are not objects?</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/09/14/foo-fighters/#comment-50998</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 01:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is why objects traveling at those speeds in the atmosphere don&#039;t leave a trail of ionized gas behind them, not to mention the mother of all sonic booms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is why objects traveling at those speeds in the atmosphere don&#8217;t leave a trail of ionized gas behind them, not to mention the mother of all sonic booms.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/09/14/foo-fighters/#comment-50997</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 01:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electromagnetic Mirages.

Now, wait, I&#039;m just spit balling and y&#039;all can tell me how wrong it is.

This is the first time we have seen this much remote sensing brought to bear on a war zone. There are spook satellites up there we have no comprehension of what they are doing. Sure, we see a lot of neat stuff online - the commercial stuff.

Right now, as we speak, that area is getting covered in real time (probably from geostationary orbit) with not only images, but active radar, LiDAR, microwave, and who knows what else.

Question: How are those wavelengths from multiple satellites sweeping radar through the sky interacting? Is it possible that constructive interference might disrupt the atmosphere in such a way to create optical effects with wild telemetry? Especially under different atmospheric conditions? Temperature, moisture content, particulate count?

Ever seen the two grapes in a microwave experiment?

(looking for a video for edit...)

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.science.org/content/article/why-sparks-fly-when-you-microwave-grapes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.science.org/content/article/why-sparks-fly-when-you-microwave-grapes
&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;iframe width=&quot;560&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/wCrtk-pyP0I&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture&quot; allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electromagnetic Mirages.</p>
<p>Now, wait, I&#8217;m just spit balling and y&#8217;all can tell me how wrong it is.</p>
<p>This is the first time we have seen this much remote sensing brought to bear on a war zone. There are spook satellites up there we have no comprehension of what they are doing. Sure, we see a lot of neat stuff online &#8211; the commercial stuff.</p>
<p>Right now, as we speak, that area is getting covered in real time (probably from geostationary orbit) with not only images, but active radar, LiDAR, microwave, and who knows what else.</p>
<p>Question: How are those wavelengths from multiple satellites sweeping radar through the sky interacting? Is it possible that constructive interference might disrupt the atmosphere in such a way to create optical effects with wild telemetry? Especially under different atmospheric conditions? Temperature, moisture content, particulate count?</p>
<p>Ever seen the two grapes in a microwave experiment?</p>
<p>(looking for a video for edit&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.science.org/content/article/why-sparks-fly-when-you-microwave-grapes" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://www.science.org/content/article/why-sparks-fly-when-you-microwave-grapes" rel="nofollow">https://www.science.org/content/article/why-sparks-fly-when-you-microwave-grapes</a></p>
<p><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wCrtk-pyP0I" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2022/09/14/foo-fighters/#comment-50991</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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