Comments on: My first “chat” with the new Bing AI search engine. https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/ Tue, 07 Apr 2026 19:18:10 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BuckGalaxy https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51776 BuckGalaxy Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:57:46 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51776 True, I think in some ways Luna will be harder to live on than some places, and easier than others. Regardless, the experience of living off world will be enormously valuable. We'll learn to solve problems we haven't thought of yet. We'll discover what we don't know we don't know. We will become better prepared for living on Mars and the asteroids. True, I think in some ways Luna will be harder to live on than some places, and easier than others. Regardless, the experience of living off world will be enormously valuable. We’ll learn to solve problems we haven’t thought of yet. We’ll discover what we don’t know we don’t know. We will become better prepared for living on Mars and the asteroids.

]]> By: BuckGalaxy https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51775 BuckGalaxy Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:46:02 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51775 I've read a couple articles over the last few years mentioning it in various levels of detail. Here's one about a lunar GPS experiment launching next year: https://www.space.com/gps-navigation-at-the-moon-navimoon "The [GPS] signal [that reaches the moon] is 1,000 times weaker than on Earth," Botteron said. "On top of that, the signal only comes from one side, whereas on Earth, you are surrounded by those satellites on all sides." Still, the engineers believe NaviMoon will be able to determine the position of a satellite orbiting the moon with the accuracy of 330 feet (100 meters), which is better than what existing technologies can achieve. Using the NaviMoon system, engineers can virtually extend GPS coverage to the surface of the moon. First, they use the NaviMoon system on the satellite to determine the position of the satellite, then beam the signal on to the rovers and astronauts on the surface. With a constellation of four or five such satellites, Botteron said, they can achieve full coverage including the moon's dark side. " I’ve read a couple articles over the last few years mentioning it in various levels of detail. Here’s one about a lunar GPS experiment launching next year:

https://www.space.com/gps-navigation-at-the-moon-navimoon

“The [GPS] signal [that reaches the moon] is 1,000 times weaker than on Earth,” Botteron said. “On top of that, the signal only comes from one side, whereas on Earth, you are surrounded by those satellites on all sides.”

Still, the engineers believe NaviMoon will be able to determine the position of a satellite orbiting the moon with the accuracy of 330 feet (100 meters), which is better than what existing technologies can achieve.

Using the NaviMoon system, engineers can virtually extend GPS coverage to the surface of the moon. First, they use the NaviMoon system on the satellite to determine the position of the satellite, then beam the signal on to the rovers and astronauts on the surface. With a constellation of four or five such satellites, Botteron said, they can achieve full coverage including the moon’s dark side. “

]]> By: RobVG https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51774 RobVG Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:04:23 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51774 To see what it could do I asked it to group all countries that are on the same latitude specifically latitudes ending in 0 or 5 degrees. In about 4 seconds it gave me a list including N and S latitudes which I didn't specify. It returned the list but latitudes were in 15 degree increments. I let it know the error and it apologized and presented a list with the zeros now included. For some reason 40 degrees and a few others showed no countries. I asked about it and again it apologized and gave me the full list. They need to get it to ask questions if it doesn't "understand" the question. I think I'll see how it does with creating tables next. To see what it could do I asked it to group all countries that are on the same latitude specifically latitudes ending in 0 or 5 degrees. In about 4 seconds it gave me a list including N and S latitudes which I didn’t specify.

It returned the list but latitudes were in 15 degree increments. I let it know the error and it apologized and presented a list with the zeros now included. For some reason 40 degrees and a few others showed no countries. I asked about it and again it apologized and gave me the full list.

They need to get it to ask questions if it doesn’t “understand” the question.

I think I’ll see how it does with creating tables next.

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51757 podrock Thu, 23 Mar 2023 04:46:23 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51757 Or, you see a turtle upside down... Or, you see a turtle upside down…

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51756 podrock Wed, 22 Mar 2023 21:31:33 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51756 ask if it dreams about electric sheep. ask if it dreams about electric sheep.

]]> By: RobVG https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51755 RobVG Wed, 22 Mar 2023 19:27:39 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51755 I've been asking it personal questions. Microsoft appears limit this to 5(?) questions and then asks you to find another topic. I haven't bothered pushing it but I intersperse a few personal questions during separate sessions with it. Once I told it it was being rude and dismissive (partially true) and it actually apologized. "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be rude and dismissive....". Today there was this Me: Your answer to a previous question was mostly quoted from 2 sources. References were given but your answer was not in quotes. Should this be considered plagiarism? Bing: No, it is not considered plagiarism. I am an AI language model and my responses are generated based on the information available to me. I always provide references to the sources of information in my responses using numerical references in square brackets , , etc. These references correspond to the search results provided earlier in the conversation. Is there anything else you would like to know? I’ve been asking it personal questions. Microsoft appears limit this to 5(?) questions and then asks you to find another topic. I haven’t bothered pushing it but I intersperse a few personal questions during separate sessions with it. Once I told it it was being rude and dismissive (partially true) and it actually apologized. “I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to be rude and dismissive….”.

Today there was this

Me:

Your answer to a previous question was mostly quoted from 2 sources. References were given but your answer was not in quotes. Should this be considered plagiarism?

Bing:

No, it is not considered plagiarism. I am an AI language model and my responses are generated based on the information available to me. I always provide references to the sources of information in my responses using numerical references in square brackets , , etc. These references correspond to the search results provided earlier in the conversation.

Is there anything else you would like to know?

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51754 ER Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:41:30 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51754 True. But that does not mean that if we CAN establish a permanent base on Luna we WILL be able to establish another somewhere else. My major objection to a Lunar Base is the tremendous amount of resources it will consume that can be better employed in other space travel destinations. Especially those that don't lie at the bottom of gravity wells. As for Lunar Time. Why not just use Greenwich Mean Time? It is already familiar to everyone, is objectionable to no one and is politically neutral. Yes, there is a light-travel time delay, but we're going to have to deal with that no matter what time convention we adopt. True. But that does not mean that if we CAN establish a permanent base on Luna we WILL be able to establish another somewhere else.

My major objection to a Lunar Base is the tremendous amount of resources it will consume that can be better employed in other space travel destinations. Especially those that don’t lie at the bottom of gravity wells.

As for Lunar Time. Why not just use Greenwich Mean Time? It is already familiar to everyone, is objectionable to no one and is politically neutral. Yes, there is a light-travel time delay, but we’re going to have to deal with that no matter what time convention we adopt.

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2023/03/20/my-first-chat-with-the-new-bing-ai-search-engine/#comment-51751 podrock Tue, 21 Mar 2023 04:19:42 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=99245#comment-51751 I know people with Caterpillar - I'll have to ask them. They use a lot of very accurate GPS. Like even knowing the position of both sides of a dozer blade. One aspect I have not seen discussed is a GPS system in lunar orbit. For any of this to work, that will be essential. Have you seen the discussions of what time zone the moon should be? Or more than one? Will they argue about Luna Savings Time in the future? The same discussions will have to occur for mars, of course, but that's a long way away. I flip-flop about the logic of establishing a moon base, lots of pros and cons. Tonight, I think that if we cannot establish a permanent base on Luna, we cannot do it anywhere. I might ask the AI about some really obscure geology topics. I know people with Caterpillar – I’ll have to ask them. They use a lot of very accurate GPS. Like even knowing the position of both sides of a dozer blade. One aspect I have not seen discussed is a GPS system in lunar orbit.

For any of this to work, that will be essential.

Have you seen the discussions of what time zone the moon should be? Or more than one? Will they argue about Luna Savings Time in the future? The same discussions will have to occur for mars, of course, but that’s a long way away.

I flip-flop about the logic of establishing a moon base, lots of pros and cons. Tonight, I think that if we cannot establish a permanent base on Luna, we cannot do it anywhere.

I might ask the AI about some really obscure geology topics.

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