Comments on: Counter propaganda https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/ Tue, 07 Apr 2026 04:45:30 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/#comment-52082 podrock Sun, 09 Jul 2023 22:43:08 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=100223#comment-52082 And shooting down a plane. And shooting down a plane.

]]> By: BuckGalaxy https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/#comment-52081 BuckGalaxy Sun, 09 Jul 2023 09:25:51 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=100223#comment-52081 As I said, similar to Carlson with his "I'm just asking a question" bullshit where he implies something false but leaves himself some flimsy deniability. "Why was Ukraine making war on ethnic Russians in Donbas before the Russian invasion?" Let's see, maybe because Putin was arming ethnic Russians in Donbas to start an insurrection, and actually sending russian fucking units dressed as civilians in as well! All of it is BS like that. As I said, similar to Carlson with his “I’m just asking a question” bullshit where he implies something false but leaves himself some flimsy deniability.

“Why was Ukraine making war on ethnic Russians in Donbas before the Russian invasion?”

Let’s see, maybe because Putin was arming ethnic Russians in Donbas to start an insurrection, and actually sending russian fucking units dressed as civilians in as well!

All of it is BS like that.

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/#comment-52080 podrock Sun, 09 Jul 2023 04:50:43 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=100223#comment-52080 Is basically the argument presented here. The west wants to make weapons so it convinced Putin to invade Ukraine. Sigh. Also, from an editorial point of view, I've never seen so many question marks in an opinion piece. Just asking questions? Cheap rhetoric. Is basically the argument presented here. The west wants to make weapons so it convinced Putin to invade Ukraine.

Sigh.

Also, from an editorial point of view, I’ve never seen so many question marks in an opinion piece. Just asking questions?

Cheap rhetoric.

]]> By: BuckGalaxy https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/#comment-52078 BuckGalaxy Sun, 09 Jul 2023 01:01:50 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=100223#comment-52078 Unlike what he says, Ukraine was never a member of NATO so that "justification" is BS. So much else he wrote is either outright lies or cherry picked questions about "why..." that leave out context explaining why. Tucker Calrson would be proud of this guy, he's built out of the same mold. I'm not impressed. Unlike what he says, Ukraine was never a member of NATO so that “justification” is BS. So much else he wrote is either outright lies or cherry picked questions about “why…” that leave out context explaining why.

Tucker Calrson would be proud of this guy, he’s built out of the same mold. I’m not impressed.

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/#comment-52074 ER Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:35:24 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=100223#comment-52074 For example. Some commentators have remarked on the similarities between the Russo-Ukrainian conflict and the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s. Yes, it was a place and time where tactics and weapons were tested and it can be seen as a rehearsal for WWII. But the analogy of a contest between Fascism and Communism is misleading. And nothing that happened in Spain then can be used today to tell us who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. In fact, the whole idea of good vs bad guys is simplistic and misleading. Still, the time comes that even after considering the nuances, you have to pick sides. To try for the false equivalence is just cowardly and wrong. I go with the Ukes, for the same reason I would have backed the Republicans in Spain a century ago. For example. Some commentators have remarked on the similarities between the Russo-Ukrainian conflict and the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s. Yes, it was a place and time where tactics and weapons were tested and it can be seen as a rehearsal for WWII. But the analogy of a contest between Fascism and Communism is misleading. And nothing that happened in Spain then can be used today to tell us who are the bad guys and who are the good guys.

In fact, the whole idea of good vs bad guys is simplistic and misleading. Still, the time comes that even after considering the nuances, you have to pick sides. To try for the false equivalence is just cowardly and wrong. I go with the Ukes, for the same reason I would have backed the Republicans in Spain a century ago.

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/#comment-52073 ER Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:24:44 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=100223#comment-52073 His work was previewed on the Yahoo web portal and I looked up the original "Scheer" site so I could link it to the source. Its good propaganda,, it makes sense, has no obvious and easily refuted errors or contradictions, and even concedes a few points to the opposition to suck you in. You have to spend a lot of time thinking objectively about these issues, with an open mind, to be able to pick up on the internal inconsistencies. His work was previewed on the Yahoo web portal and I looked up the original “Scheer” site so I could link it to the source. Its good propaganda,, it makes sense, has no obvious and easily refuted errors or contradictions, and even concedes a few points to the opposition to suck you in. You have to spend a lot of time thinking objectively about these issues, with an open mind, to be able to pick up on the internal inconsistencies.

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2023/07/08/counter-propaganda/#comment-52072 podrock Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:14:13 +0000 https://habitablezone.com/?p=100223#comment-52072 You know he worked for RT America? As in the Russian Times network? You know he worked for RT America? As in the Russian Times network?

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