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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2024 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reactionary forces in American politics have always enlisted the support of their own victims by promising them that they too can some day be prosperous if they are just patient and back the immediate agenda of Capital.

Keep quiet, get with the program and one day you will no longer be exploited by your boss, you will get the opportunity to oppress your own workers and customers.  If it hasn&#039;t happened yet it must be because those commie libs want to give all your stuff away to furriners, brown folks, and lazy hippies, i.e., folks who aren&#039;t hard workin&#039; and god-fearin&#039; volk like us.  Its the same bill of goods they sold to Johnny Reb in 1860; join up and fight for your god-given freedom to own slaves and one day YOU can have your own. And its the same bill of goods Adolf Hitler managed to sell to the hard-working, disciplined and highly cultured people of Germany.

The true genius of the modern Conservative movement is that it managed to convince its own victims to work against their own economic interests and political freedom by leveraging their racism, nationalism, religious fundamentalism, anti-intellectualism and nativism against them.  

America has always been able to find a compromise between the productive dynamism and efficiency of the Right and the justice, compassion and humanity of the Left.  This has been done through democratic reforms, unions, civil rights, election reform, rule of law, consumer, worker and environmental legislation while simultaneously allowing every citizen to manage his own economic life and personal property. Maintaining this balance has not always worked smoothly, and there have been setbacks and contradictions, but it is America&#039;s finest achievement and its greatest gift to human civilization. 

But for those who see human life as simply an arena for their own self-aggrandizement and the endless accumulation of personal wealth and power, these reforms have always been anathema.  And what we are seeing now in politics is the natural result of those who are willing to wake up the most hideous demons in our collective psyche in order to briefly put to rest the howling beast in theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reactionary forces in American politics have always enlisted the support of their own victims by promising them that they too can some day be prosperous if they are just patient and back the immediate agenda of Capital.</p>
<p>Keep quiet, get with the program and one day you will no longer be exploited by your boss, you will get the opportunity to oppress your own workers and customers.  If it hasn&#8217;t happened yet it must be because those commie libs want to give all your stuff away to furriners, brown folks, and lazy hippies, i.e., folks who aren&#8217;t hard workin&#8217; and god-fearin&#8217; volk like us.  Its the same bill of goods they sold to Johnny Reb in 1860; join up and fight for your god-given freedom to own slaves and one day YOU can have your own. And its the same bill of goods Adolf Hitler managed to sell to the hard-working, disciplined and highly cultured people of Germany.</p>
<p>The true genius of the modern Conservative movement is that it managed to convince its own victims to work against their own economic interests and political freedom by leveraging their racism, nationalism, religious fundamentalism, anti-intellectualism and nativism against them.  </p>
<p>America has always been able to find a compromise between the productive dynamism and efficiency of the Right and the justice, compassion and humanity of the Left.  This has been done through democratic reforms, unions, civil rights, election reform, rule of law, consumer, worker and environmental legislation while simultaneously allowing every citizen to manage his own economic life and personal property. Maintaining this balance has not always worked smoothly, and there have been setbacks and contradictions, but it is America&#8217;s finest achievement and its greatest gift to human civilization. </p>
<p>But for those who see human life as simply an arena for their own self-aggrandizement and the endless accumulation of personal wealth and power, these reforms have always been anathema.  And what we are seeing now in politics is the natural result of those who are willing to wake up the most hideous demons in our collective psyche in order to briefly put to rest the howling beast in theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/02/24/you-cant-be-a-republican-and-an-american/#comment-52949</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2024 00:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One side wants to do away with democracy and the constitution, the other side is fighting to defend those things.

It is not like this is a matter up for debate... the Leader of the GOP says he will be a strongman and dictator and his minions have drawn up publicly known plans to dismantle democracy.

One side is genuinely, objectively evil and relishes cruelty inflicted on  others... this is simply objective fact

One side is gleefully detached from reality wallowing in patently absurd conspiracy theory, and using those conspiracies to justify violence against their fellow citizens.

There is no equivalency between the 2 sides... The GOP is a threat to all America has claimed to stand for, and the democrats are trying to stop them....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One side wants to do away with democracy and the constitution, the other side is fighting to defend those things.</p>
<p>It is not like this is a matter up for debate&#8230; the Leader of the GOP says he will be a strongman and dictator and his minions have drawn up publicly known plans to dismantle democracy.</p>
<p>One side is genuinely, objectively evil and relishes cruelty inflicted on  others&#8230; this is simply objective fact</p>
<p>One side is gleefully detached from reality wallowing in patently absurd conspiracy theory, and using those conspiracies to justify violence against their fellow citizens.</p>
<p>There is no equivalency between the 2 sides&#8230; The GOP is a threat to all America has claimed to stand for, and the democrats are trying to stop them&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to simplify things, think Keystone pipeline. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to simplify things, think Keystone pipeline. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When comparing Biden and Trump, former republican and never-Trump conservative Jennifer Rubin said it well:  

&quot;President Biden gets harangued constantly about his age, but no one seriously thinks he is impulsive, destructive, chaotic, plundering, violent or bent on dismantling our constitutional system. We need not worry that he will try to pardon himself and hundreds of insurrectionists. We know he declines to interfere with the Justice Department, abides by court rulings and respects the military’s apolitical role. He is trying to bolster the international order, not upend it. With age and solid character come stability, calm, competence and, occasionally, wisdom. That is the real contrast between the two.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When comparing Biden and Trump, former republican and never-Trump conservative Jennifer Rubin said it well:  </p>
<p>&#8220;President Biden gets harangued constantly about his age, but no one seriously thinks he is impulsive, destructive, chaotic, plundering, violent or bent on dismantling our constitutional system. We need not worry that he will try to pardon himself and hundreds of insurrectionists. We know he declines to interfere with the Justice Department, abides by court rulings and respects the military’s apolitical role. He is trying to bolster the international order, not upend it. With age and solid character come stability, calm, competence and, occasionally, wisdom. That is the real contrast between the two.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 15:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy Kimmel poses an embarrassing question to Trump supporters, who effortlessly switch sides and arguments when their man is accused of the crime.  He also shows video of FOX talking heads contradicting each other when commenting on Trump policies and statements.  (starts at about 7:00)

&lt;strong&gt;Jimmy Kimmel Tricks Trump Voters Into Revealing What They Really Think About Trump&lt;/strong&gt;

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/jimmy-kimmel-tricks-trump-voters-070151203.html

There is more than just ideology or culture at work here.  This cognitive dissonance only makes sense when viewed as a result of profound emotional and spiritual commitment.  Only religion and racism have the psychic power to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy Kimmel poses an embarrassing question to Trump supporters, who effortlessly switch sides and arguments when their man is accused of the crime.  He also shows video of FOX talking heads contradicting each other when commenting on Trump policies and statements.  (starts at about 7:00)</p>
<p><strong>Jimmy Kimmel Tricks Trump Voters Into Revealing What They Really Think About Trump</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/jimmy-kimmel-tricks-trump-voters-070151203.html" rel="nofollow">https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/jimmy-kimmel-tricks-trump-voters-070151203.html</a></p>
<p>There is more than just ideology or culture at work here.  This cognitive dissonance only makes sense when viewed as a result of profound emotional and spiritual commitment.  Only religion and racism have the psychic power to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 15:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;ll be the first to agree Liberals aren&#039;t always right.  But the modern Conservative is ALWAYS wrong.  The debating concession &quot;to be fair...&quot; no longer applies.  These people are NAZIs and bigots.  There is no gray area. Sorry if I sound like I&#039;m adopting their tactics, but I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;ll be the first to agree Liberals aren&#8217;t always right.  But the modern Conservative is ALWAYS wrong.  The debating concession &#8220;to be fair&#8230;&#8221; no longer applies.  These people are NAZIs and bigots.  There is no gray area. Sorry if I sound like I&#8217;m adopting their tactics, but I am.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 13:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the true red capped MAGAS know all this, there is a significant number of Trump supporters that don&#039;t. I know, because I talk to them. When I tell them things like this, or agenda 2025, or the details of his many crimes, it is news to them. I doesn&#039;t change their minds, but often surprises them what actually goes on at these rallies and conferences. I try to tell them the various codes, dog whistles and symbology associated with this dangerous political movement and it goes over their heads.

I just spent two weeks down in the South, and dear Lordy I bit my lip so often there might be permanent damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the true red capped MAGAS know all this, there is a significant number of Trump supporters that don&#8217;t. I know, because I talk to them. When I tell them things like this, or agenda 2025, or the details of his many crimes, it is news to them. I doesn&#8217;t change their minds, but often surprises them what actually goes on at these rallies and conferences. I try to tell them the various codes, dog whistles and symbology associated with this dangerous political movement and it goes over their heads.</p>
<p>I just spent two weeks down in the South, and dear Lordy I bit my lip so often there might be permanent damage.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote somewhere, possibly here on the Zone, that I hoped one day democracy would exist in every nation in the world.  

Today, with one of the two major parties in the nation showing distain for our long history of democracy, I wonder if it will even exist in America much longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote somewhere, possibly here on the Zone, that I hoped one day democracy would exist in every nation in the world.  </p>
<p>Today, with one of the two major parties in the nation showing distain for our long history of democracy, I wonder if it will even exist in America much longer.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2024 20:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The division has grown to the point where neither side can see a gray area. The character of the Republicans involved dictates that the opposition must be removed. &quot;My way or the Highway&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The division has grown to the point where neither side can see a gray area. The character of the Republicans involved dictates that the opposition must be removed. &#8220;My way or the Highway&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2024 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...even the most brutal and autocratic regimes at least tried to pretend they were democratic.  They called themselves names like &quot;The People&#039;s Democratic Republic of ,,,&quot;, or they held periodic elections that everyone understood were a sham, or they maintained rubber-stamp parliaments.  Some, like the Soviet Union, even sported remarkably enlightened constitutions (which were nevertheless ignored in the administration of the country).  Still, at least an effort was made to claim democratic institutions.

Not since the days of early 20th century European fascism has the very concept of democracy come under direct public attack the way it is today.  Democracies are accused of being weak, corrupt, easily suborned by factions and political and economic and class interests, and of course, those &quot;elites&quot; which are always undermining the true interests of The People.  There is a bit of truth to this, even the earliest Classical Athenian democracy was controlled by rich businessmen and political hacks, it established tyrants and controlled an overseas empire and an aggressive foreign policy and repression at home.  The Roman Republic was merely a club of the city&#039;s richest families who agreed to rotate the temporary leadership amongst themselves because they didn&#039;t trust each other. Democracy is no guarantee of freedom, it must be consciously controlled and fought for by an enlightened and informed citizenry.  Even in our own country, the most profound political development of the Enlightenment,  only white, male, &quot;Gentlemen of Property&quot; were allowed to vote, and the leadership was elected by the Representatives, NOT the popular vote.

Still, what we are seeing now is truly unprecedented.  Democracy is being attacked not because it is failing, or led astray, or neglected, or incompetent.  It rejects the democratic idea entirely, and substitutes for it  the mere trappings of rule of law and the vote and the tough love of a allegedly benign dictator. 

And its not just happening here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;even the most brutal and autocratic regimes at least tried to pretend they were democratic.  They called themselves names like &#8220;The People&#8217;s Democratic Republic of ,,,&#8221;, or they held periodic elections that everyone understood were a sham, or they maintained rubber-stamp parliaments.  Some, like the Soviet Union, even sported remarkably enlightened constitutions (which were nevertheless ignored in the administration of the country).  Still, at least an effort was made to claim democratic institutions.</p>
<p>Not since the days of early 20th century European fascism has the very concept of democracy come under direct public attack the way it is today.  Democracies are accused of being weak, corrupt, easily suborned by factions and political and economic and class interests, and of course, those &#8220;elites&#8221; which are always undermining the true interests of The People.  There is a bit of truth to this, even the earliest Classical Athenian democracy was controlled by rich businessmen and political hacks, it established tyrants and controlled an overseas empire and an aggressive foreign policy and repression at home.  The Roman Republic was merely a club of the city&#8217;s richest families who agreed to rotate the temporary leadership amongst themselves because they didn&#8217;t trust each other. Democracy is no guarantee of freedom, it must be consciously controlled and fought for by an enlightened and informed citizenry.  Even in our own country, the most profound political development of the Enlightenment,  only white, male, &#8220;Gentlemen of Property&#8221; were allowed to vote, and the leadership was elected by the Representatives, NOT the popular vote.</p>
<p>Still, what we are seeing now is truly unprecedented.  Democracy is being attacked not because it is failing, or led astray, or neglected, or incompetent.  It rejects the democratic idea entirely, and substitutes for it  the mere trappings of rule of law and the vote and the tough love of a allegedly benign dictator. </p>
<p>And its not just happening here.</p>
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