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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53290</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I am too cynical about our citizens... but not without reason,  I am sure you will grant me that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I am too cynical about our citizens&#8230; but not without reason,  I am sure you will grant me that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53289</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 21:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vietnam War was raging.  The situation today is different in many ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vietnam War was raging.  The situation today is different in many ways.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53288</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 21:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2016 Trump was an unknown commodity.  People were willing to take a chance on him.  The election has now fundamentally changed in that Harris is the unknown commodity and Trump is a former president whose psychotic and chaotic roller coaster of an administration is still fairly fresh in the public&#039;s minds.  


I understand your concerns about the timing of trying to break social barriers, and that is why I would definitely not want to see Harris pick Buttigieg for VP.  


But I think she will inspire the youth vote and bring the women and black vote in huge numbers.  She will have the full backing of democrats and has a good chance of grabbing a piece of the anti-Trump GOP voters.  She won&#039;t have the Gaza War stigma that was dragging down Biden.  She&#039;s a symbol of the pro choice movement.  And as Tony mentioned, the myogynists and racists are already firmly in the Trump camp anyway.  

There are a lot of positives and we have a lot more hope now than we did 2 days ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2016 Trump was an unknown commodity.  People were willing to take a chance on him.  The election has now fundamentally changed in that Harris is the unknown commodity and Trump is a former president whose psychotic and chaotic roller coaster of an administration is still fairly fresh in the public&#8217;s minds.  </p>
<p>I understand your concerns about the timing of trying to break social barriers, and that is why I would definitely not want to see Harris pick Buttigieg for VP.  </p>
<p>But I think she will inspire the youth vote and bring the women and black vote in huge numbers.  She will have the full backing of democrats and has a good chance of grabbing a piece of the anti-Trump GOP voters.  She won&#8217;t have the Gaza War stigma that was dragging down Biden.  She&#8217;s a symbol of the pro choice movement.  And as Tony mentioned, the myogynists and racists are already firmly in the Trump camp anyway.  </p>
<p>There are a lot of positives and we have a lot more hope now than we did 2 days ago.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53287</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, is this really the election to put up a first...a black woman against yet another old white male...

I have zero questions about her ability to do the job, I simply question her electability given the American bigotry which places women of color at the very bottom. 

In other elections I might say go ahead and damn the consequences, to make a statement... not this election. Find a pair like Whitmer-Booker that polls the best and go with that... If we lose this election,  there will not be a second chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, is this really the election to put up a first&#8230;a black woman against yet another old white male&#8230;</p>
<p>I have zero questions about her ability to do the job, I simply question her electability given the American bigotry which places women of color at the very bottom. </p>
<p>In other elections I might say go ahead and damn the consequences, to make a statement&#8230; not this election. Find a pair like Whitmer-Booker that polls the best and go with that&#8230; If we lose this election,  there will not be a second chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53286</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 19:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was three decades of media hate for Hillary, with a smidge of backlash against a black president, and a soupcon of black voter indifference leading to a slightly reduced turnout.

The bigots aren&#039;t voting for a Democrat period. There&#039;s no way to win them back other than government making their life better, and even then they&#039;ll rail against gubmint spending and the damn libs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was three decades of media hate for Hillary, with a smidge of backlash against a black president, and a soupcon of black voter indifference leading to a slightly reduced turnout.</p>
<p>The bigots aren&#8217;t voting for a Democrat period. There&#8217;s no way to win them back other than government making their life better, and even then they&#8217;ll rail against gubmint spending and the damn libs.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53285</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 18:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a backlash against America&#039;s first black president... that won him enough  independent  bigots and electrified his base enough for him to win... against a white woman.

How will that coalition of bigots react to the prospect of a black woman president?

One with far less charisma than Obama... 

Maybe I am wrong, God I hope so... but one lesson of the past 8 years I have learned is it doesn&#039;t pay to underestimate the stupid, even self destructive, bigotry of my fellow citizens...

If I am wrong,  you may make fun of mercilessly if she wins... I will be laughing  alongside you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a backlash against America&#8217;s first black president&#8230; that won him enough  independent  bigots and electrified his base enough for him to win&#8230; against a white woman.</p>
<p>How will that coalition of bigots react to the prospect of a black woman president?</p>
<p>One with far less charisma than Obama&#8230; </p>
<p>Maybe I am wrong, God I hope so&#8230; but one lesson of the past 8 years I have learned is it doesn&#8217;t pay to underestimate the stupid, even self destructive, bigotry of my fellow citizens&#8230;</p>
<p>If I am wrong,  you may make fun of mercilessly if she wins&#8230; I will be laughing  alongside you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53284</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 18:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you not see the biggest fundraising day in Democratic party history?

Sure let&#039;s toss aside a very qualified candidate for someone milquetoast with zero national recognition.
Let&#039;s toss aside the Biden/Harris warchest that is practically bursting at the seams now.

Biden has already been tossed. Press and pundits took care of that. Kamala is the only option here. As a unity candidate, she is the only play that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you not see the biggest fundraising day in Democratic party history?</p>
<p>Sure let&#8217;s toss aside a very qualified candidate for someone milquetoast with zero national recognition.<br />
Let&#8217;s toss aside the Biden/Harris warchest that is practically bursting at the seams now.</p>
<p>Biden has already been tossed. Press and pundits took care of that. Kamala is the only option here. As a unity candidate, she is the only play that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53283</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 17:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a clean slate has a chance...

The convention needs to break with all tradition ... if they toss Biden aside, and that may or may not be the right choice, then they must toss aside Kamala as well, a completely clean slate, picked only on the basis of the ability to beat Trump. 

THAT is ALL that matters now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a clean slate has a chance&#8230;</p>
<p>The convention needs to break with all tradition &#8230; if they toss Biden aside, and that may or may not be the right choice, then they must toss aside Kamala as well, a completely clean slate, picked only on the basis of the ability to beat Trump. </p>
<p>THAT is ALL that matters now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53282</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2024 23:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democratic convention was in Chicago. Remember how fun that one was?

Welcome to Chicago, 2024.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democratic convention was in Chicago. Remember how fun that one was?</p>
<p>Welcome to Chicago, 2024.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/07/21/biden-drops-out/#comment-53281</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2024 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.” - Hunter S Thompson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.” &#8211; Hunter S Thompson</p>
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