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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<description>Hannah Arendt made the comments that follow in 1974 during an interview with the French writer Roger Errera.

Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism begins in contempt for what you have. The second step is the notion: “Things must change—no matter how, Anything is better than what we have.” Totalitarian rulers organize this kind of mass sentiment, and by organizing it articulate it, and by articulating it make the people somehow love it. They were told before, thou shalt not kill; and they didn’t kill. Now they are told, thou shalt kill; and although they think it’s very difficult to kill, they do it because it’s now part of the code of behavior. They learn whom to kill and how to kill and how to do it together. This is the much talked about Gleichschaltung—the coordination process. You are coordinated not with the powers that be, but with your neighbor—coordinated with the majority. But instead of communicating with the other you are now glued to him. And you feel of course marvelous. Totalitarianism appeals to the very dangerous emotional needs of people who live in complete isolation and in fear of one another.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1978/10/26/hannah-arendt-from-an-interview/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hannah Arendt made the comments that follow in 1974 during an interview with the French writer Roger Errera.</p>
<p>Totalitarianism<br />
Totalitarianism begins in contempt for what you have. The second step is the notion: “Things must change—no matter how, Anything is better than what we have.” Totalitarian rulers organize this kind of mass sentiment, and by organizing it articulate it, and by articulating it make the people somehow love it. They were told before, thou shalt not kill; and they didn’t kill. Now they are told, thou shalt kill; and although they think it’s very difficult to kill, they do it because it’s now part of the code of behavior. They learn whom to kill and how to kill and how to do it together. This is the much talked about Gleichschaltung—the coordination process. You are coordinated not with the powers that be, but with your neighbor—coordinated with the majority. But instead of communicating with the other you are now glued to him. And you feel of course marvelous. Totalitarianism appeals to the very dangerous emotional needs of people who live in complete isolation and in fear of one another.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1978/10/26/hannah-arendt-from-an-interview/" rel="nofollow">https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1978/10/26/hannah-arendt-from-an-interview/</a></p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<description>I often send his essay to friends and family.</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<description>Nothing fancy, no deep sociopolitical analysis required.  Its the same old struggle that dominated the 20th century: Fascism vs Socialism.  That&#039;s why they get so bent out of shape when you call them what they are: Fascists.  Of course, THEY get to call anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with them a &quot;Socialist&quot;.

So what is &quot;Fascism&quot;?  Well, what is rapidly emerging as the standard definition is from Umberto Eco as listed in 



&lt;blockquote&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism

&quot;Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt&quot; delves into the core characteristics of fascism. Eco outlines fourteen key elements or traits, which he refers to as &quot;ways,&quot; that commonly appear in fascist movements. While not all these traits are present in every fascist movement, together they create a recognizable pattern. The essay is structured around these fourteen ways, providing an in-depth exploration of fascism as a multifaceted and adaptable ideology.[1] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that &quot;it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it&quot;. He uses the term &quot;ur-fascism&quot; as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

1.&quot;The cult of tradition&quot;, characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.

2.&quot;The rejection of modernism&quot;, which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.

3.&quot;The cult of action for action&#039;s sake&quot;, which dictates that action is of value in itself and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.

4.&quot;Disagreement is treason&quot; – fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.

5.&quot;Fear of difference&quot;, which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.

6.&quot;Appeal to a frustrated middle class&quot;, fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.

7.&quot;Obsession with a plot&quot; and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society. Eco also cites Pat Robertson&#039;s book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.

8.Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as &quot;at the same time too strong and too weak&quot;. On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.

9.&quot;Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy&quot; because &quot;life is permanent warfare&quot; – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to not build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.

10.&quot;Contempt for the weak&quot;, which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate leader, who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.

11.&quot;Everybody is educated to become a hero&quot;, which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, &quot;[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.&quot;

12.&quot;Machismo&quot;, which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold &quot;both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality&quot;.

13..&quot;Selective populism&quot; – the people, conceived monolithically, have a common will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he alone dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of &quot;no longer represent[ing] the voice of the people&quot;.

14..&quot;Newspeak&quot; – fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


And if that&#039;s too academic and elitist for you, try this:

Fascism is the political philosophy employed by the bourgeoisie in order to maintain their hold on commercial, political and economic power when they feel it is threatened by progressive or enlightened ideas.  It is characterized by appealing to the racism, bigotry, insecurity and fear of the working and middle classes and convincing them &quot;its those &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; guys that are ripping you off, not us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing fancy, no deep sociopolitical analysis required.  Its the same old struggle that dominated the 20th century: Fascism vs Socialism.  That&#8217;s why they get so bent out of shape when you call them what they are: Fascists.  Of course, THEY get to call anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with them a &#8220;Socialist&#8221;.</p>
<p>So what is &#8220;Fascism&#8221;?  Well, what is rapidly emerging as the standard definition is from Umberto Eco as listed in </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt&#8221; delves into the core characteristics of fascism. Eco outlines fourteen key elements or traits, which he refers to as &#8220;ways,&#8221; that commonly appear in fascist movements. While not all these traits are present in every fascist movement, together they create a recognizable pattern. The essay is structured around these fourteen ways, providing an in-depth exploration of fascism as a multifaceted and adaptable ideology.[1] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that &#8220;it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it&#8221;. He uses the term &#8220;ur-fascism&#8221; as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:</p>
<p>1.&#8221;The cult of tradition&#8221;, characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.</p>
<p>2.&#8221;The rejection of modernism&#8221;, which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.</p>
<p>3.&#8221;The cult of action for action&#8217;s sake&#8221;, which dictates that action is of value in itself and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.</p>
<p>4.&#8221;Disagreement is treason&#8221; – fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.</p>
<p>5.&#8221;Fear of difference&#8221;, which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.</p>
<p>6.&#8221;Appeal to a frustrated middle class&#8221;, fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.</p>
<p>7.&#8221;Obsession with a plot&#8221; and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society. Eco also cites Pat Robertson&#8217;s book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.</p>
<p>8.Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as &#8220;at the same time too strong and too weak&#8221;. On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.</p>
<p>9.&#8221;Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy&#8221; because &#8220;life is permanent warfare&#8221; – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to not build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.</p>
<p>10.&#8221;Contempt for the weak&#8221;, which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate leader, who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.</p>
<p>11.&#8221;Everybody is educated to become a hero&#8221;, which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, &#8220;[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.&#8221;</p>
<p>12.&#8221;Machismo&#8221;, which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold &#8220;both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality&#8221;.</p>
<p>13..&#8221;Selective populism&#8221; – the people, conceived monolithically, have a common will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he alone dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of &#8220;no longer represent[ing] the voice of the people&#8221;.</p>
<p>14..&#8221;Newspeak&#8221; – fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.
</p></blockquote>
<p>And if that&#8217;s too academic and elitist for you, try this:</p>
<p>Fascism is the political philosophy employed by the bourgeoisie in order to maintain their hold on commercial, political and economic power when they feel it is threatened by progressive or enlightened ideas.  It is characterized by appealing to the racism, bigotry, insecurity and fear of the working and middle classes and convincing them &#8220;its those <em>other</em> guys that are ripping you off, not us.&#8221;</p>
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