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	<title>Comments on: Trump stated he could end the Ukraine war in 24 hrs.</title>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/11/22/trump-stated-he-could-end-the-ukraine-war-in-24-hrs/#comment-53621</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 06:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...by switching alliance to Russia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;by switching alliance to Russia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2024/11/22/trump-stated-he-could-end-the-ukraine-war-in-24-hrs/#comment-53613</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2024 13:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are extremely important in a world where energy and food become more valuable commodities every day.  Climate change has made these items tactically important, and they will become even more so in the foreseeable future.  Still, Ukraine&#039;s value to Russia is primarily strategic.  A failure to to stop Russian aggression there will only make it it easier, and consequently, more likely, in the future.

Still, you&#039;re right. Putin&#039;s primary interest in Ukraine is one of saving face.  At first, it seemed like an easy, low risk operation.  Its now turning into a question of credibility, like Viet Nam was for the USA. A failure there would make him, and Russia, look weak now, awkward, perhaps even ridiculous.

I think this is why the Biden White House has been so reluctant to provide Ukraine with all the military support it has requested.
The Biden administration understands that it is in Russia&#039;s best interest to withdraw from Eastern Europe, but it also understands Putin is capable of acting irrationally if he feels his personal reputation is threatened.  If his forces are routed by NATO, or even a relatively small country supported by NATO, Vladimir is finished and he knows it.  He may very well push the red button if he feels his back is to the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are extremely important in a world where energy and food become more valuable commodities every day.  Climate change has made these items tactically important, and they will become even more so in the foreseeable future.  Still, Ukraine&#8217;s value to Russia is primarily strategic.  A failure to to stop Russian aggression there will only make it it easier, and consequently, more likely, in the future.</p>
<p>Still, you&#8217;re right. Putin&#8217;s primary interest in Ukraine is one of saving face.  At first, it seemed like an easy, low risk operation.  Its now turning into a question of credibility, like Viet Nam was for the USA. A failure there would make him, and Russia, look weak now, awkward, perhaps even ridiculous.</p>
<p>I think this is why the Biden White House has been so reluctant to provide Ukraine with all the military support it has requested.<br />
The Biden administration understands that it is in Russia&#8217;s best interest to withdraw from Eastern Europe, but it also understands Putin is capable of acting irrationally if he feels his personal reputation is threatened.  If his forces are routed by NATO, or even a relatively small country supported by NATO, Vladimir is finished and he knows it.  He may very well push the red button if he feels his back is to the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any ceasefire deal will be temporary.  Russia will continue its war once it rebuilds and has a better plan for invasion.  Maybe after the US abandons NATO and Russia invades Estonia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any ceasefire deal will be temporary.  Russia will continue its war once it rebuilds and has a better plan for invasion.  Maybe after the US abandons NATO and Russia invades Estonia.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2024 20:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except for grain supply and pipeline easements, I doubt he has any interest in rebuilding Ukraine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except for grain supply and pipeline easements, I doubt he has any interest in rebuilding Ukraine.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he told the Ukrainians he would no longer support them diplomatically, financially and militarily and he would do everything possible to discourage other nations from doing so then he might coerce them to accept a &quot;deal&quot; from Putin.

Trump could coordinate a diplomatic maneuver with the Kremlin so the latter would promise to freeze its advance on the ground and refrain from further bombardment IF the Ukrainians made certain concessions, like agreeing not to join NATO and disarming, perhaps even the resignation and exile of Zelensky.  It would allow Putin to withdraw and save face  (providing the details were kept secret from the rest of the world until Ukraine signed on).  Facing certain defeat and occupation by Russia and further destruction of their country, Kyiv would have little choice but to accept these conditions.

In spite of their bravery and resolve, the Ukrainians simply cannot defeat Russia and its allies without massive military and intelligence support from the West. And I believe this is precisely what Trump is planning to do once he is President. In fact, I wouldn&#039;t be a bit surprised if Trump isn&#039;t already in contact with Moscow over the details of this transaction. Trump will never forgive Ukraine for refusing and exposing his attempt at blackmail over the &quot;dig up dirt on the Bidens&quot; scam. The future of Ukraine, the EU, NATO and eventually, Taiwan, is irrelevant when Trump&#039;s revenge is concerned.

Of course, the long term success of this deal would depend solely on Russia keeping its word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he told the Ukrainians he would no longer support them diplomatically, financially and militarily and he would do everything possible to discourage other nations from doing so then he might coerce them to accept a &#8220;deal&#8221; from Putin.</p>
<p>Trump could coordinate a diplomatic maneuver with the Kremlin so the latter would promise to freeze its advance on the ground and refrain from further bombardment IF the Ukrainians made certain concessions, like agreeing not to join NATO and disarming, perhaps even the resignation and exile of Zelensky.  It would allow Putin to withdraw and save face  (providing the details were kept secret from the rest of the world until Ukraine signed on).  Facing certain defeat and occupation by Russia and further destruction of their country, Kyiv would have little choice but to accept these conditions.</p>
<p>In spite of their bravery and resolve, the Ukrainians simply cannot defeat Russia and its allies without massive military and intelligence support from the West. And I believe this is precisely what Trump is planning to do once he is President. In fact, I wouldn&#8217;t be a bit surprised if Trump isn&#8217;t already in contact with Moscow over the details of this transaction. Trump will never forgive Ukraine for refusing and exposing his attempt at blackmail over the &#8220;dig up dirt on the Bidens&#8221; scam. The future of Ukraine, the EU, NATO and eventually, Taiwan, is irrelevant when Trump&#8217;s revenge is concerned.</p>
<p>Of course, the long term success of this deal would depend solely on Russia keeping its word.</p>
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