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"Remember, what the dormouse said, ER June 5, 2025 4:14 pm (Space/Science)

"Make my day" BuckGalaxy June 5, 2025 1:08 pm (CurrentEvents)

NSIDC Data drop ER June 4, 2025 9:34 pm (Space/Science)

Boulder will be in your news soon. podrock June 1, 2025 3:14 pm (CurrentEvents)

It's over folks RL June 1, 2025 12:38 pm (Space/Science)

Administration solves things the old fashion way BuckGalaxy June 1, 2025 11:01 am (Flame)

Issacman out as NASA Admin BuckGalaxy May 31, 2025 9:40 pm (Space/Science)

Lie, cheat and disable mechanisms... BuckGalaxy May 31, 2025 8:04 pm (Space/Science)

Big beautiful wall RobVG May 31, 2025 11:50 am (Flame)

2025 Humans to the Moon & Mars Summit May 28 and 29 BuckGalaxy May 28, 2025 2:52 pm (Space/Science)

C'mon a little closer gonna do it to you BuckGalaxy May 27, 2025 9:46 pm (Off-Topic)

Watching SpaceX Starship flight 9, 7:30pm EST BuckGalaxy May 27, 2025 3:59 pm (Space/Science)

Titanic Tugboat Photoshop Question by ER April 10, 2012 4:11 pm

The footage in question was of the sister ship "Olympic," used as stock footage. by TB 2012-04-10 19:16:12
- Good detective work, TB. I did an internet search and actually found a google reference to a website that ... by ER 2012-04-10 19:25:57

100 years ago today. by Jeff-Wash March 31, 2012 12:39 pm

And on April, 02, 1912, 100 years ago today, the Titanic went on its sea trials, departing the port of ... by Jeff-Wash 2012-04-02 09:09:22
- And 100 years ago today, the Titanic arrived at the port of Southampton where it was berthed at its quay for ... by Jeff-Wash 2012-04-04 12:44:34
  - One hundred years ago today, April, 06, 1912, Captain Edward Smith and hundreds of other Englishmen signed on as the ship's crew ... by Jeff-Wash 2012-04-06 11:43:00
    - On April, 10, 1912, one hundred years ago today, the White Star Liner Titanic departed from the port of Southampton, England. ... by Jeff-Wash 2012-04-10 13:12:00
      - The suspense is killing me! What's next??!! :-) by bowser 2012-04-10 19:19:34
- The best-laid plans of mice and men, etc. It had a far greater impact on the world from the ... by bowser 2012-04-02 11:15:43
  - Some curious facts that I didn't know about. The Titanic was not totally powered by piston & cylinder engines. She ... by Jeff-Wash 2012-04-02 22:49:19
  - Not unlike the history of the giant airships. by TB 2012-04-02 12:28:52
    - I've heard of the Hindenburg, the Graf Zeppelin, and the LZ ships Count Ferdinand Graf von Zeppelin made to test ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-04 14:27:42

So what can a poor boy do? by ER April 9, 2012 3:54 am

If this place is any indication... by RobVG 2012-04-09 18:13:13
- If I had it to do all over again, I'd study music. People say it is like mathematics, although ... by ER 2012-04-09 19:30:34
It can fill yer belly n/t by RobVG 2012-04-09 17:13:32
I'm trying to think of changes in society that have succeeded. The anti-smoking campaign is one, and the anti-Union ... by bowser 2012-04-09 10:10:43
- Individuals can make a difference, but they take heavy casualties, too. I respect and admire them, but I do not envy ... by ER 2012-04-09 11:15:18
  - I believe we all want our lives to have meaning. Those who know this also know we have to ... by bowser 2012-04-10 09:04:00
    - You're a wise man, Bowser. by ER 2012-04-10 10:26:49
      - You're very kind, and way too modest. And trapped. Your COPS activity is important in two ways. One is ... by bowser 2012-04-10 19:17:51

I wonder if it is tempting fate? by Jeff-Wash April 10, 2012 1:17 pm

Since this reply page is a better medium to type on, I will ask you here, is it tempting fate ... by Jeff-Wash 2012-04-10 13:34:30
- Believe me, there are radar-assisted collisions and GPS-assisted groundings all the time. And no mechanical malfunctions are required. I mean, ... by ER 2012-04-10 14:16:32
Let me guess...(spoiler alert) by ER 2012-04-10 13:20:54

Multiple levels of reality. by ER April 9, 2012 6:55 pm

Amazing that everyone has an opinion. Amazing that every opinion comes from our own unique perspective. Amazing that our perspective ... by Jody 2012-04-10 08:45:37
- Don't go into engineering. :) by TB 2012-04-10 08:47:24
  - Hee hee....Actually I truly appreciate the engineer mentality. I can be very abstract. Sometimes I need to be reeled it. ... by Jody 2012-04-10 09:37:24
    - Yep, engineers are hard-headed, practical, empirical, and have no use for academic and theoretical considerations. Afterwards, they have no problem figuring ... by ER 2012-04-10 09:47:22
      - Factoid: Wiccan shamans tend to be engineers in their day jobs. by Robert 2012-04-10 13:08:55
      - Your first sentence is false. The second sentence is what engineering is about. by TB 2012-04-10 11:39:32
        
        Lighten up, TB. by ER 2012-04-10 11:56:31
There is a wonderful 9 acre lake in the western Cascades. To get to it is a 2 hour ... by bowser 2012-04-09 23:01:25
- Bravo! It is the source of much of our conflict that we perceive these values differently, that different equally valid perceptions ... by ER 2012-04-10 05:22:40
I dust off the cobwebs of my bicycle. I tighten the bolts, lubricate the chain, test the brakes and re ... by Jody 2012-04-09 19:59:29
- Great story. You went into Kickass Mode. I had a very similar experience once myself. When I was a ... by ER 2012-04-09 21:17:53

The deep places of the Earth by TB April 9, 2012 8:07 pm

Awesome! Thanks! by BuckGalaxy 2012-04-10 00:24:14
I don't understand what they're saying here... by RobVG 2012-04-09 21:18:41
- I imagine that water comes out of a household faucet at some pressure, and that pressure must exceed 1 atmosphere ... by ER 2012-04-09 22:01:09
  - Typical household water is at about 40-50 psi. by podrock 2012-04-10 07:03:27
    - Back in the midwest, you could figure it out by knowing the height of the town's water tower. by TB 2012-04-10 08:32:12
    - Thanks. Looking up the exact figures, 1 atmosphere is 14.7 lbs/sq in, and 1 atm pressure is exerted by ... by ER 2012-04-10 07:33:53
      - While we are talking pressure, perhaps you could pop on over to johannes' thread on the Mysteries of the Multiverse ... by podrock 2012-04-10 08:05:45
        
        Johannes is a sweetheart, but discussing physics with him is like discussing politics with some of our Conservative friends here. ... by ER 2012-04-10 08:28:01
        
        Um, yeah. Something like that. by TB 2012-04-10 08:30:16
Personal range of experience: 46,000 feet by podrock 2012-04-09 20:54:43
- Wow. I've done 14,695 in 12 hours, from the top of Mt. Whitney at 9:00 AM to - 200' ... by bowser 2012-04-09 23:11:33
Yeah ...but...where is middle earth??? by Jody 2012-04-09 20:26:18
- Where the sun don't shine. by ER 2012-04-09 20:45:38

Ten Debunked Scientific Beliefs of The Past by Jody March 31, 2012 7:11 pm

Alchemy 1948 by RobVG 2012-04-01 10:55:46
It is the nature of science to debunk bad ideas. It is in fact what science is all about. by BuckGalaxy 2012-04-01 01:52:17
- I know it is Buck...but open mindedness...something you believe the Conservatives are guilty of *not* embracing...is a two way street.... In ... by Jody 2012-04-01 12:44:42
  - Again, the very fact that scientist actively seek to debunk their own theories shows exceptional open mindedness. THINK ABOUT ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-04-10 00:28:42
    - ACTUALLY THAT WAS MY POINT. Sometimes I communicate poorly because I forget people don't see what I see. by Jody 2012-04-10 07:29:31
- You're right, of course, and I think all those ideas were valid explanations based upon the level of knowledge at ... by bowser 2012-04-01 08:37:01
- Buck's got a point. by TB 2012-04-01 07:38:59

From a purely tactical perspective... by ER April 9, 2012 10:36 am

I think one factor is arrogance. After electing George W. Bush twice, George H. W. Bush once and Ronald ... by bowser 2012-04-09 11:40:15
- I'm not sure that computes. Sure Reagan was ideologically pure, charismatic, and ultimately successful. Bush I, McCain and Dole were highly ... by ER 2012-04-09 13:18:35
  - With all due respect. (Doesn't that belong on another thread?) Reagan presented to the public well, was glib, ... by bowser 2012-04-09 15:06:44
    - Man, and I thought I was a cynic. 8) by ER 2012-04-09 15:56:14
      - The more you see, the more you read, the grimmer it gets. :-) by bowser 2012-04-09 21:03:06

Some good medical news by TB April 1, 2012 1:36 pm

Freaking amazing,...not only would this save a lot of human suffering, but also squillions in health care costs. That is stunning,...and ... by Ainz 2012-04-09 16:02:33

Meme generation survey by ER April 8, 2012 9:47 am

"With all due respect" tends to mean something else sometimes. And "My friend". I used to work with ... by bowser 2012-04-09 15:13:17
The younger male generation uses *Your Mom* ALOT....in a sexual reference. Example: "I went fishing, the other day, dude...caught a huge ... by Jody 2012-04-09 07:18:02
- We did the same back in the '70's when I was a teen. by podrock 2012-04-09 07:37:31
  - Saddam Hussein coined a great one, that has managed to survive translation from Arabic to English: "The Mother of All Battles". I've ... by ER 2012-04-09 13:27:33
I have never thought of myself as creative and I seriously doubt that I have originated any memes. Maybe "cold ... by FrankC 2012-04-08 23:45:22
"What could possibly go wrong?" is widely used. I didn't make it up. by TB 2012-04-08 15:01:09
Like, totally, dude. I mean, y'know, I totally jive your vibe man. Seriously though, that stuff does get annoying pretty ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-08 13:47:00
- Verbal memes are not the same as slang, although slang (as do many components of language, even language itself) can ... by ER 2012-04-08 14:22:59
  - I am resisting the urge to reply with "Dude". It's taking a LOT of effort. Isn't the phrase "Dude, where's ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-08 16:20:26
    - The whole "where's my car" line is a meme, often modified by other nouns. "Dude" never vanished completely, although ... by ER 2012-04-08 17:12:48
And how well is that working for you? by bowser 2012-04-08 10:16:07
- I think Sara Palin was the first documented user of that one, in reference to Obama's failure to deliver on ... by ER 2012-04-08 10:28:41
  - It's been a stock phrase for at least 34 years that I know of in recovery circles. When one ... by bowser 2012-04-08 14:07:39
    - Hmmmmm.... by ER 2012-04-08 14:24:44
One I have made up..."Oh you're good...I never would have thought that"...as a snarky obviousity. sorta like..."Gee, Captain Obvious" I always liked..." ... by Jody 2012-04-08 09:58:56
- "Captain Obvious" is new to me, but I've heard the other two. "No shit, Sherlock" I remember from high school. by ER 2012-04-08 10:31:05
  - "Fantastic!" Two female classmates meet after twenty years. One of them is wearing a fur coat, very short ... by bowser 2012-04-08 14:13:47

More about corporate libertarianism. by ER April 9, 2012 4:23 am

All of these bong fantasies, including Carson's "Mutualism," fail in execution on one simple point: Who decides? by TB 2012-04-09 09:13:04
- That's very simple, a problem which has been solved many times. Once the standards, values, or goals have been agreed upon ... by bowser 2012-04-09 09:31:29
  - The problem is NOT that free markets are a bad thing. On the contrary, they actually work. The problem is ... by ER 2012-04-09 09:40:28
    - I was once testifying before the Oregon House Ways and Means committee about increasing the budget for the Wage and ... by bowser 2012-04-09 09:52:39
  - "The community." Hall. Thumb. Now. by TB 2012-04-09 09:37:16
    - It's a problem which has been solved many times. by bowser 2012-04-09 09:41:18
      - Name them. Historical, please, not academic papers. by TB 2012-04-09 09:43:36
        
        I did. Two different methods. If you don't like the way I did it, try the Constitutions of ... by bowser 2012-04-09 09:56:23
        
        In the context of the ideology we're discussing, please. by TB 2012-04-09 10:00:49
- I must have scored a hit. I see secondary explosions. by ER 2012-04-09 09:29:52
  - We have the recent examples of Enron and WorldCom which debunk the idea a free market is workable in this ... by bowser 2012-04-09 09:39:52
    - You realize you cough up the same two or three examples every time to "prove" that the free market can't work? by TB 2012-04-09 10:08:39
      - Do you realize you've never refuted that? Do you realize that human nature needs to be a factor? ... by bowser 2012-04-09 10:32:16
  - Friend, your shots didn't even hit the same ocean I'm in. by TB 2012-04-09 09:35:44
    - Yeah, who decides? The guy who gets paid a bonus for selling as little as he can for as ... by ER 2012-04-09 09:45:28
      - In the context of the references we were discussing please. by TB 2012-04-09 10:19:48
        
        You want references? by ER 2012-04-09 10:52:57

Corporate Libertarianism and the betrayal of Adam Smith by ER April 8, 2012 8:25 am

"planned and managed by the world’s largest corporations to maximize financial returns to top managers" by RobVG 2012-04-08 12:18:17
- Tell us what a "straw man" argument might look like. by bowser 2012-04-08 14:16:46
- Not even kings of old had lackeys piling bags of gold at their feet. CEOs do it the same way the ... by ER 2012-04-08 13:06:20
I constantly link to people who encapsulate my opinions better than I sometimes can. by TB 2012-04-08 10:24:34
- Another chapter from the same book, I see. by ER 2012-04-08 10:37:33
  - You agree with the bulleted points? Tell me you're just pulling my chain. by TB 2012-04-08 14:04:59
    - Yep. Every single one, although in a few areas I really don't have the technical expertise to have thought ... by ER 2012-04-08 14:49:04
      - Okay, you are pulling my chain. by TB 2012-04-08 15:05:23
        
        I presume that banking gobbledygook has something to do with how our banks are organized and regulated, right? I ... by ER 2012-04-08 15:25:14
        
        Yep. A whole lot of gobbledygook. by TB 2012-04-08 15:54:22
        
        Silicon-based macroprocessors by Robert 2012-04-08 17:32:48
        
        By the way, what the hell is a "corporate libertarian?" by TB 2012-04-08 20:29:12
        
        "By the way, what the hell is a corporate libertarian?" by ER 2012-04-09 02:41:44
        
        Get back to me when you've compiled a version of your software on one of those devices. by TB 2012-04-08 20:20:52
        
        You're really out of your depth. by Robert 2012-04-09 10:17:22
        
        I guess that makes three. by TB 2012-04-09 10:30:15
        
        How about an SiO2 slide rule? Right out of the corporate libertarian box. by ER 2012-04-08 18:28:10
    - Love those bulleted points. Much better than working for the demise of the country. by bowser 2012-04-08 14:20:33

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