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Defining fascism--a little light reading by Robert November 25, 2015 2:02 pm

A superb description of the Republican Party with their goosestep members of Congress. by bowser 2015-12-01 20:20:31
- Hey, Bowser, grab some popcorn! by TB 2015-12-01 20:31:21
  - Can't argue the facts, can you. Remember the pledge they had to sign? by bowser 2015-12-02 20:59:32
  - Who's up for a Mobius award? n/t by RobVG 2015-12-01 22:12:32
It's funny, even you guys have to look up the definition of fascist.....n/t by RobVG 2015-11-25 20:00:35
- Do you already know one? by Robert 2015-11-25 22:40:43
  - Please.. by RobVG 2015-11-26 10:43:11
    - OK, the long way round, you're saying you don't think Trump is a Fascist by Robert 2015-11-26 14:20:05
      - I think you're just a little too gleeful. by RobVG 2015-11-29 11:24:46
        
        "Glee" is the wrong word by Robert 2015-11-29 20:16:23
        
        I'm sorry you took offense Robert by RobVG 2015-11-30 19:08:56
        
        If you are really asking a question: by TB 2015-11-30 09:45:51
        
        Racism was more of a prominent example than the sole characteristic by Robert 2015-11-30 18:24:14
        
        Excellent post. by ER 2015-11-30 14:27:22
        
        It wasn't that Eco, or even Robert, were wrong. by TB 2015-11-30 20:09:07
        
        Your ideology is showing. by ER 2015-12-01 06:59:18
        
        I should hope so. by TB 2015-12-01 10:31:48
        
        A Wikepedia citation? by mcfly 2015-12-01 14:15:06
        
        Hear that ER? by TB 2015-12-01 16:31:57
        
        Pick that cherry! by mcfly 2015-12-01 17:09:52
        
        Heh, sorry. ER uses Wikepedia a lot, too. by TB 2015-12-01 17:25:31
        
        Read my post again and think about it. Sorry it was so subtle. by mcfly 2015-12-01 17:40:17
        
        Or you could just explain it. by TB 2015-12-01 17:46:13
        
        I have a problem with *your* methodology by mcfly 2015-12-01 18:33:16
        
        C'mon McFly by RobVG 2015-12-01 22:21:07
        
        I'm curious about something by Robert 2015-12-01 11:41:27
        
        Waiting for links on the "economic studies." by TB 2015-12-01 13:23:49
        
        ding! ding! ding! by Robert 2015-12-01 16:10:17
        
        raga man by ER 2015-12-01 18:06:25
        
        Cute. by TB 2015-12-01 18:05:07
        
        Did you know your data removed capital gains from the equation in order to look like that? by RL 2015-12-01 19:08:17
        
        I don't think that changes it being flat. by TB 2015-12-01 19:37:53
        
        You KNOW it does... by RL 2015-12-01 19:58:12
        
        Dude, I quoted the paper you handed me. by TB 2015-12-01 20:29:08
        
        The very first place I looked, right at the top of the stack... by ER 2015-12-01 14:26:13
        
        Well... by TB 2015-12-01 16:58:08
        
        Don't patronize me, Tom. by ER 2015-12-01 18:38:55
        
        Heh. Don't you mean "Tommy?" by TB 2015-12-01 18:49:13
        
        And... by RL 2015-12-01 16:35:55
        
        There is a methodology problem... by TB 2015-12-01 17:21:27
        
        I am curious, TB by RL 2015-12-01 18:04:44
        
        That's just insulting by mcfly 2015-12-01 17:38:37
        
        Bringing engineers in probably wouldn't hurt. :) by TB 2015-12-01 17:57:09
        
        Do we have any? by ER 2015-12-01 18:37:16
        
        Do Lasers count? by RL 2015-12-01 19:37:05
        
        Lasers definitely count! by TB 2015-12-01 19:46:05
        
        I dabble a bit... by TB 2015-12-01 18:56:21
        
        I used to draw maps. by ER 2015-12-01 19:06:16
        
        That's tech, too. by TB 2015-12-01 19:48:40
        
        And yet another insult by mcfly 2015-12-01 18:35:19
        
        I'm sorry. Didn't know you were a social scientist. by TB 2015-12-01 18:39:25
        
        A rising tide lifts all yachts by mcfly 2015-12-01 14:46:53
        
        They want more. by ER 2015-12-01 12:43:31
        
        In the wild west... by ER 2015-12-01 11:21:33
        
        Thanks for that by mcfly 2015-11-30 15:44:20
        
        I'm tending to agree with TB on this by Tony 2015-11-30 12:37:30
        
        Have you read this whole thread? by TB 2015-11-29 22:14:57
        
        Are you nuts? by Robert 2015-11-29 22:23:58
        
        Unclear answer. by TB 2015-11-29 23:58:56
        
        Its perfectly clear to me, by ER 2015-11-30 06:00:02
    - They're in the "furious gibbering" phase. by TB 2015-11-26 11:45:41
      - Who's in "furious gibbering phase?" by mcfly 2015-11-26 19:15:55
      - Tommy tries desperately to hold back the liberal flood by ER 2015-11-26 11:58:39
    - I don't think Trump is making any effort NOT to be shoehorned. by ER 2015-11-26 11:20:22
    - Be honest Rob... by RL 2015-11-26 11:17:01
  - I don't think Trump has a political ideology... by RL 2015-11-26 08:54:13
    - Liberals should also beware of spending too much effort fighting Trump. by ER 2015-11-26 09:24:21
- That's because there IS NO definition of fascist. by ER 2015-11-25 20:19:57
  - Look up number 14 in Eco's list. by TB 2015-11-26 09:34:36
    - Precision of language? by ER 2015-11-26 09:50:49
      - Wow... just...WOW by RL 2015-11-26 10:05:09
Fascism is the dictatorship of the middle class. by ER 2015-11-25 16:42:39
Definitions by ER 2015-11-25 16:00:06

Pinko commie dog, or... by mcfly November 26, 2015 8:45 pm

Socialist. by bowser 2015-11-30 21:37:19
I like Bernie. by ER 2015-11-27 06:46:25

Thank goodness we are keeping those refugees out... by RL November 29, 2015 7:29 pm

Sarcasm doesn't help. by RobVG 2015-11-29 19:59:08
- Neither does scapegoating the VICTIMS of ISIS by RL 2015-11-30 14:11:48
  - SMC? WTF? by RobVG 2015-11-30 16:25:38
    - The mindset is small minded and cowardly by RL 2015-11-30 17:55:08

Rudy Giuliani says Trump is a... by mcfly November 26, 2015 8:52 pm

Trump is not the problem. by ER 2015-11-27 06:11:41
- Another view: by TB 2015-11-27 19:12:49
  - Not necessarily another view at all.. by ER 2015-11-27 20:43:00
    - I know exactly how we got to where we are. by TB 2015-11-27 22:44:51
      - Isn't it funny... by ER 2015-11-28 06:08:23
        
        The key word in your question might be "data." by TB 2015-11-28 12:38:53
        
        Before you bet your life on your theory, Tom, by ER 2015-11-28 12:54:32
        
        We've had this conversation. by TB 2015-11-28 14:17:47
        
        I've got everything I need. by ER 2015-11-28 14:32:51
        
        Don't know. I'll have to try sometime. by TB 2015-11-28 19:04:38

Black Lives Matter. by ER November 24, 2015 5:41 pm

You know you're a racist... by Robert 2015-11-25 09:57:58
- Such an eloquent post. by mcfly 2015-11-27 23:30:54
- And when racists find themselves unexpectedly slipping into minority status, by ER 2015-11-25 11:03:50
Less than a mile from my home here... by RL 2015-11-24 20:34:05
- Willful ignorance by BuckGalaxy 2015-11-26 12:32:06
- Kristalnacht. by ER 2015-11-24 21:19:42
Just now posted on Facebook. by RobVG 2015-11-24 20:09:54
- Right on., Rob. by ER 2015-11-24 20:20:42
Everything you need to know about this... by TB 2015-11-24 18:18:50
- Yes, TB... corrupt politics was definitely at play here by RL 2015-11-24 20:05:59
  - What are the actual statistics over the past years? by TB 2015-11-24 21:12:23
    - Did I say there has been a big increase? by RL 2015-11-24 21:57:46
- Don't tell me, Tom.... by ER 2015-11-24 19:27:03
  - How does that work? by TB 2015-11-24 20:24:53
    - Listen at you. by ER 2015-11-24 21:13:33
      - Your brain puked again. by TB 2015-11-24 21:44:49
        
        Yeah, right, Tom by ER 2015-11-24 21:50:44
        
        Didn't look at the links, did you? by TB 2015-11-24 22:31:59
        
        Le canard enchaine by ER 2015-11-25 07:00:55
        
        Ah say boy... by Jody 2015-11-25 07:50:38
        
        I think of myself more like Yosemite Sam. by ER 2015-11-25 07:54:04
        
        LMAO! by Jody 2015-11-25 08:18:26
        
        So what've YOU got? by TB 2015-11-24 22:22:09
        
        Fascists thrive by keeping the environment toxic. by ER 2015-11-25 06:22:42
        
        Very instructive. Thanks. by TB 2015-11-25 10:05:11
        
        So what is it you're saying again? by ER 2015-11-25 11:00:00
  - It's easier than addressing the actual problem... by RL 2015-11-24 19:53:51
    - Yeah, I see what you mean. n/t by ER 2015-11-25 11:10:51
- Bout the burger by ER 2015-11-24 18:35:40

Not happy with being a garden-variety fascist... by mcfly November 25, 2015 9:35 pm

Weimar Amerika by ER 2015-11-26 06:55:40
- How could the moderates have stiffled him??? by Jody 2015-11-26 10:00:09
  - The Democrats are killing off the moderates, Jody. by TB 2015-11-26 12:07:01
    - OMFG by BuckGalaxy 2015-11-26 18:11:58
      - Heh. You caught up now? by TB 2015-11-26 19:26:44
    - Ya know, I actually checked to make sure your account wasn't hacked by Robert 2015-11-26 15:05:24
      - You haven't been paying attention either. by TB 2015-11-26 15:27:43
        
        Enzyme breakdown. by ER 2015-11-26 15:33:51
        
        You've hit the Godwin Limit. Take a break. by TB 2015-11-26 15:48:08
        
        TB, I'm not playing the Hitler Card. by ER 2015-11-26 16:07:14
    - That is the most remarkable, most astonishing post I've ever seen TB submit to the Zone. by ER 2015-11-26 14:25:34
    - Tommy tries desperately to hold back the liberal flood -- Part Two by ER 2015-11-26 13:08:14
      - You can adjust the width of an image. by TB 2015-11-26 13:23:37
        
        Got it. Thanks. by ER 2015-11-26 13:58:45
        
        I have to dink with some posts six or seven times before they look right. by TB 2015-11-26 15:06:23
    - What is the name of the galaxy your planet is in? by RL 2015-11-26 12:59:06
      - You have one valid point in that mess: by TB 2015-11-26 13:17:59
        
        It is your own party killing off the moderates by RL 2015-11-26 14:10:10
        
        It's interesting to see conservatives using the word "moderate" by mcfly 2015-11-26 17:29:41
        
        Look closer. by TB 2015-11-26 15:03:58
        
        We've all seen the Dolchstoßlegende movie before, Tom. And we all know how it ends. by ER 2015-11-26 13:47:20
        
        Just admit it by RL 2015-11-26 13:35:50
        
        You all that happy with Hillary or Bernie? by TB 2015-11-26 15:45:56
        
        Bernie's a decent, intelligent guy by mcfly 2015-11-26 16:43:29
        
        Polls by RL 2015-11-26 13:29:06
        
        Darn good thing that McClatchy poll is in there, isn't it? by TB 2015-11-26 14:30:42
        
        Fine, believe the fox poll by RL 2015-11-26 14:49:22
        
        See "Look closer" above. by TB 2015-11-26 15:05:51
  - Some of them did stand up to him, to their credit. by ER 2015-11-26 10:21:34
  - The squeaky wheel gets the oil. by Jody 2015-11-26 10:13:35
    - President Trump (or President Carson or President Cruz, by ER 2015-11-26 10:25:54
      - Name a Republican that you could get behind. by Jody 2015-11-26 10:49:26
        
        My favorite Republican (not running now) is Jon Huntsman. by ER 2015-11-26 11:04:00

Oh, yeah, let's go to war!! by bowser November 24, 2015 6:27 pm

Turks claim Soviets repeatedly violated their airspace. It's not like they weren't warned. by RobVG 2015-11-24 20:15:04
- Doesn't matter. All it takes is one side retaliating. by bowser 2015-11-24 20:26:30
Sounds like Sarajevo, 1914. by ER 2015-11-24 19:29:23

At some point we have to take this seriously... by RL November 22, 2015 12:55 pm

Not to be out-bigoted by Tump, Carson says US muslims cheered 9/11 by RL 2015-11-23 15:22:49
- I figured it out--- this is all a viral marketing campaign for "The Man in the High Castle" by RL 2015-11-23 15:41:48
Trump twitter graphic traced back to neo-nazi account by mcfly 2015-11-23 08:04:16
- Its an old and time tested propaganda technique. by ER 2015-11-23 09:41:56
  - Tell me about it. by TB 2015-11-23 09:59:19
    - "The belief that there is no such thing as objective fact is also dangerous." by ER 2015-11-23 10:18:27
      - ..."we can't always speak with any certainty on any issue"... by Jody 2015-11-23 14:40:43
        
        What I should have said... by ER 2015-11-23 16:23:15
        
        I remember you saying that before... by Jody 2015-11-23 17:07:13
        
        Yes. That happens to me all the time. by ER 2015-11-23 18:55:09
        
        LOL! Awright now. by Jody 2015-11-23 19:23:42
      - The empirical method works, too. by TB 2015-11-23 10:54:05
        
        No one said reason and intellect have nothing to do with politics. by ER 2015-11-23 11:52:29
"Should have been done long ago." by ER 2015-11-22 19:08:01
- oh there is by Robert 2015-11-22 21:29:11
  - Deliberately Misquoting Smiley (from the very heart of the "grey zone)". by ER 2015-11-23 05:37:51
    - Fanatics always overreach by Robert 2015-11-23 15:36:01
I've enjoyed him until right now! by bowser 2015-11-22 18:44:30
Not quite sure what to say about this by mcfly 2015-11-22 18:32:19
And this... leaves me speechless. by RL 2015-11-22 18:24:38
- I can't imagine YOU speechless... by Jody 2015-11-23 15:55:11
  - Until you come out publicly and denounce his actions in a way I find satisfactory.... by RL 2015-11-23 17:01:24
    - There you go, Jody. The Party's giving you your very own self-criticism session. by TB 2015-11-23 17:20:24
    - Indeed I do. by Jody 2015-11-23 17:14:19
      - You almost seemed to be getting it.... by RL 2015-11-24 17:29:06
        
        Saul good by Jody 2015-11-24 17:47:17
Just about the same time I posted this, Trump tweeted... by RL 2015-11-22 15:39:08
Trump resonates with a substantial portion of the Republican party. by ER 2015-11-22 14:56:45
Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists.... by RL 2015-11-22 14:50:51
- Mid course correction. by ER 2015-11-22 15:09:47

Why we shouldn't be worrying about the Syrian refugees. by ER November 23, 2015 7:42 am

11 million illegal "refugees" have strolled across the Mexican border. by bowser 2015-11-24 13:27:26
- How many Mexican Jihadists are there? by RobVG 2015-11-24 14:51:22
  - The point, explained. by bowser 2015-11-24 17:30:45
  - What's the magic number? by mcfly 2015-11-24 16:07:17
Meanwhile in Canada... by TB 2015-11-24 10:50:24
- Leave it to the Canadians to come up with a reasonable and humane compromise. by ER 2015-11-24 10:59:25
  - The Canadians have restricted their refugee program due to the attacks in Paris. by TB 2015-11-24 11:34:24
    - Bit of a strawman there, TB by mcfly 2015-11-24 11:55:39
      - Do you consider the Republican House bill to be "an appropriate check?" by TB 2015-11-24 13:52:25
        
        Well, for what it's worth... by mcfly 2015-11-24 15:22:58
        
        "Hold off a reasonable while..." by TB 2015-11-24 16:44:05
        
        As for the cherry tree by ER 2015-11-24 14:28:23
      - Maybe its because Canada doesn't have as many racist lunatics in its loyal opposition as we do. by ER 2015-11-24 13:00:36
        
        Footnote on Canadian Politics by mcfly 2015-11-24 14:38:33
Needle in the Haystack by RobVG 2015-11-23 20:00:23
- I'm sure if ISIS or Al-Quaeda wants to send terrorists here... by ER 2015-11-23 20:36:35
  - I'm glad you're sure n/t by RobVG 2015-11-23 21:46:06
    - You can never be sure about anything. by ER 2015-11-24 06:41:28

From bad to worse by RL November 24, 2015 7:04 am

(I deleted your duplicate post) by podrock 2015-11-24 07:20:26

The friend of my friend is my enemy. by ER November 22, 2015 11:01 am

OK ER, here’s my take (you fill in the blanks): by JEKing 2015-11-22 21:49:43
- You've got the major outlines right. by ER 2015-11-23 06:03:38
  - @ER’s I think you overestimate the ability of human personality and intellect to direct history by JEKing 2015-11-23 12:50:53
    - The currents of history... by ER 2015-11-23 13:52:11
- Also, by podrock 2015-11-23 05:40:41
Important questions by mcfly 2015-11-22 12:41:50
- They seem to be trying to precipitate a Muslims-vs-the-world apocalypse. by ER 2015-11-22 14:19:28
  - From The Atlantic, an interesting read: by podrock 2015-11-23 05:26:26
    - Yes, I must confess it. by ER 2015-11-23 05:45:44
      - A short update by podrock 2015-11-23 06:15:22
        
        So this actually is a "war of civilizations." by TB 2015-11-23 09:32:47
        
        Yes. I have (ahem) evolved on that. by ER 2015-11-23 10:51:46

This may be the apocalypse, sooner rather than later. by bowser November 19, 2015 6:42 pm

Its not all doom and gloom... by RL 2015-11-20 21:09:08
- Some good news there by mcfly 2015-11-21 11:06:06
I've read about this a few times by mcfly 2015-11-20 20:02:16

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