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An opinion on gun control by TB December 21, 2012 8:33 pm

Following the broader Conservative pattern. by bowser 2012-12-21 22:00:43
- I share your dismay by mcfly 2012-12-22 09:16:34
  - Us vs. Them by MaryAnne 2012-12-23 11:59:18
    - When politics funds everything, politics will control everything. by TB 2012-12-23 13:59:03
      - However did we get any objective data out of government studies? by MaryAnne 2012-12-23 14:14:35
        
        The subject was whether or not something gets funded in the first place, not what the results end up being. by TB 2012-12-23 15:25:31
        
        Grant-funded projects make up a lot of research funding. by MaryAnne 2012-12-23 15:56:20
  - Well... by TB 2012-12-22 11:52:22
    - There's a couple of assumptions you and others seem to be making about my position by mcfly 2012-12-23 15:45:58
      - Immediate action by MaryAnne 2012-12-23 16:43:06
        
        I realize we all react to things differently by mcfly 2012-12-23 17:28:09
        
        Lynch mobs have outrage. by TB 2012-12-23 20:25:53
        
        well gee, you've figured me out, haven't you? by mcfly 2012-12-24 03:57:03
        
        Like I said, lashing out is easy. by TB 2012-12-24 09:18:34
        
        I knew I should have smacked you for that one. by MaryAnne 2012-12-26 15:07:57
        
        Definitions. by TB 2012-12-27 10:25:14
        
        No one called you that Tom. That was definitely not my take on it. by Jody 2012-12-27 11:29:36
        
        Of course not. by TB 2012-12-27 11:42:58
        
        Understood :)...and I agree. by Jody 2012-12-27 12:16:10
        
        TB, you accused me of having a "lynch mob" mentality, of "emotional fanaticism" by mcfly 2012-12-26 13:28:47
        
        The idea was raised that "absence of outrage" was a "dereliction." by TB 2012-12-26 14:33:46
        
        Gotcha by mcfly 2012-12-26 15:16:57
        
        McFly!!!! by Jody 2012-12-26 19:22:30
        
        "Worn down" by RobVG 2012-12-26 18:51:49
        
        No, please... by MaryAnne 2012-12-26 15:21:49
        
        I'm trying to think of what, exactly, to do myself. by MaryAnne 2012-12-23 18:04:13
    - I don't think you believe very much of this post. by bowser 2012-12-22 12:21:55
      - "Do you really think that the US couldn’t control guns if it wanted to?" by TB 2012-12-22 12:52:43
        
        Take a plane someplace and then tell me the US cannot control gun possession. by bowser 2012-12-22 13:57:42
        
        "Take a plane someplace and then tell me the US cannot control gun possession." by TB 2012-12-22 15:20:00

Gun insurance by RobVG December 26, 2012 12:13 pm

That's not bad by Robert 2012-12-26 15:07:29
- I agree. by MaryAnne 2012-12-26 16:08:56
  - Your objections are things that are ongoing discussions in insurance policy today. by alcaray 2012-12-26 16:21:17
    - Practice by MaryAnne 2012-12-26 16:29:45

"Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi... by alcaray December 26, 2012 3:56 pm

Inside the meltdown by BuckGalaxy December 26, 2012 10:57 am

GOP's Xmas gift to the nation: Economic ruin by BuckGalaxy December 24, 2012 12:18 pm

"It ends when certain very powerful people and institutions decide they can no longer do business with these people," by BuckGalaxy 2012-12-24 19:35:06
Will no one save the middle class from Clinton's tax rates? by TB 2012-12-24 13:27:42
- The totality of your denial is breathtaking. by BuckGalaxy 2012-12-24 15:35:37

"There's Little We Can Do to Prevent Another Massacre" by TB December 21, 2012 1:33 pm

excellent reading by FrankC 2012-12-21 14:49:26
- Hmm. I thought is was rehash and a waste of time. Oh well. n/t by RobVG 2012-12-22 10:43:45
- A well-written article by mcfly 2012-12-21 15:29:01
  - "acquiesce" is probably the word you're looking for by Robert 2012-12-21 16:38:15
    - Would you like to define the evil of which you speak? by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 18:31:45
      - taxonomies of evil by Robert 2012-12-21 18:52:56
        
        "We" by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 19:31:19
  - *sigh* by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 15:46:44
    - "Accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.Approve or sanction (something), esp. with reluctance." Yeah, "condone" ... by mcfly 2012-12-21 16:51:53
      - "Accept," "allow" and "sanction" are not synonyms. by TB 2012-12-21 17:44:21
        
        I didn't make that definition up, TB by mcfly 2012-12-21 18:16:20
      - seeking vs grasping by FrankC 2012-12-21 17:33:59
      - We are saying that the mentality that makes decisions based on the statement "Something must be done"... by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 17:23:49
    - Welcome to my world. by TB 2012-12-21 16:03:18
      - Mary Anne, you're in TB's world? by mcfly 2012-12-21 17:12:49
        
        lolol by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 18:40:12

Thinking the unthinkable by Jody December 15, 2012 8:57 pm

Another personal story along this same line, by TB 2012-12-22 08:23:27
Madmen don't kill people. by ER 2012-12-17 06:15:06
- 27,000 people lost to this "plague"? I think that number is greater than the total number of homicides in the US n/t by RobVG 2012-12-17 09:50:12
  - It probably is. by ER 2012-12-17 10:39:32
    - Thanks by RobVG 2012-12-17 17:05:57
      - 30.06 by ER 2012-12-17 19:55:08
- From where I observe...criminals are mad men. The insatiable need for money and power is mad. I do not use ... by Jody 2012-12-17 09:11:27
Disaster waiting to happen by TB 2012-12-16 14:36:47
- Actually Tom...and boy am I gonna get a lot of flack for saying this...and note, I will never own a ... by Jody 2012-12-16 15:34:33
Thanks, Jody, for this story. by MaryAnne 2012-12-16 09:13:34

“Nothing can be done” by Robert December 20, 2012 10:02 pm

OK. So, what to do? by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 06:10:39
- As with nuclear weapons, guns necessitate more gun ownership to protect you from all the guns. by alcaray 2012-12-21 12:42:32
  - Another conversation: disarmament as negotiation. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 14:00:32
    - I've got nothing aainst law-abiding gun owners either. by mcfly 2012-12-21 14:34:55
      - John O'Hara, in his novella "Imagine Kissing Pete" (I think)... by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 14:58:03
        
        Alcohol and firearms, huh? by mcfly 2012-12-21 17:21:14
        
        The Feds put them together, along with tobacco, and later, explosives. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 18:56:03
      - They don't legislate emission controls and mileage standards. by TB 2012-12-21 14:49:32
  - Where? by TB 2012-12-21 12:43:49
    - What? by alcaray 2012-12-21 12:54:40
      - We're not talking about nuclear weapons. by TB 2012-12-21 13:01:57
        
        That was an analogy, Tom. by alcaray 2012-12-21 13:10:12
        
        Okay, if we're doing analogies... by TB 2012-12-21 13:25:29
        
        You are misaken (though it's largely beside the point). by alcaray 2012-12-21 14:53:14
        
        Fine, but next we're doing S'mores by mcfly 2012-12-21 14:51:50
        
        Let's see... by TB 2012-12-21 14:54:07
- I'm disappointed by Robert 2012-12-21 11:44:41
  - And we're talking past each other. Again. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 13:32:14
    - Creating a better society by mcfly 2012-12-21 17:40:23
      - I don't care about the "nothing can be done" crowd unless they cut off my money. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 19:05:01
    - Nobody thinks twice about armed bank guards being a good idea. by TB 2012-12-21 14:51:56
      - We don't have any. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 15:14:02
    - PS: The gun shops' parking lots were full again this morning. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 14:17:16
    - I agree with your solution, but... by FrankC 2012-12-21 14:09:56
      - Amen, and it's about time, too. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 14:31:05
  - What you did say in your post: by TB 2012-12-21 12:16:35
    - "I found out that there is no magic wand that can keep a lunatic from finding a weapon and using it to commit mass murder." by alcaray 2012-12-21 12:52:31
It's not a "conservative" meme. by TB 2012-12-20 23:18:02
- Oh, sorry, I didn't realize... by Robert 2012-12-21 11:47:49
  - You don't really want discussion. by TB 2012-12-21 12:35:48
    - Are you on drugs? Take a look at this thread. (n/t) by Robert 2012-12-21 15:52:58

Boehner is toast as SOTH by BuckGalaxy December 20, 2012 9:49 pm

Right rages at Boehner by BuckGalaxy 2012-12-21 11:09:38
We're likely going over the cliff because the GOP is in complete disarray. by BuckGalaxy 2012-12-20 21:52:07
- But of course it's a great comfort to know... by mcfly 2012-12-21 05:35:13
  - Do you really think this debate is about the fiscal cliff? Or the budget? by TB 2012-12-21 07:26:29
    - I'm hardly the only one who feels the way I do by mcfly 2012-12-21 13:29:27
      - I'm just watching the dance. by TB 2012-12-21 14:38:54
        
        But that's exactly the choice conservatives are giving us by mcfly 2012-12-21 15:51:05
        
        The Dems won the election by BuckGalaxy 2012-12-21 15:16:30

Congress is quietly abandoning the 5th amendment by TB December 21, 2012 10:20 am

Congress has passed unconstitutional laws before. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 10:56:40
- Oops! Forgot the Executive branch! Obama can refuse to sign it. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 10:57:32

Warrantless surveillance by TB September 27, 2012 8:56 pm

Unintentional "bump." Sorry. by TB 2012-12-21 10:22:04
I think we need laws to protect our electronic privacy. by alcaray 2012-09-28 10:41:04
Heard anything lately about secret renditions? Waterboarding? How about "Shock and Awe"? by bowser 2012-09-27 21:41:18

"Do something!" by TB December 17, 2012 11:26 am

move along, move along, nothing to see here, move along by Robert 2012-12-17 15:16:16
Is this the thread that's supposed "to tell you where most of the gun violence in this country does come from"? by alcaray 2012-12-17 13:32:45
For myself...the only thing I can do...realistically...is NOT condone or contribute to calamity. by Jody 2012-12-17 12:33:59
- Conservatives appear fond of a meme... by mcfly 2012-12-20 21:08:24
Adam Lanza is a fluke, an outlier, an accident. by ER 2012-12-17 11:37:24

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