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Congress is quietly abandoning the 5th amendment by TB December 21, 2012 10:20 am

Congress has passed unconstitutional laws before. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 10:56:40
- Oops! Forgot the Executive branch! Obama can refuse to sign it. by MaryAnne 2012-12-21 10:57:32

Warrantless surveillance by TB September 27, 2012 8:56 pm

Unintentional "bump." Sorry. by TB 2012-12-21 10:22:04
I think we need laws to protect our electronic privacy. by alcaray 2012-09-28 10:41:04
Heard anything lately about secret renditions? Waterboarding? How about "Shock and Awe"? by bowser 2012-09-27 21:41:18

"Do something!" by TB December 17, 2012 11:26 am

move along, move along, nothing to see here, move along by Robert 2012-12-17 15:16:16
Is this the thread that's supposed "to tell you where most of the gun violence in this country does come from"? by alcaray 2012-12-17 13:32:45
For myself...the only thing I can do...realistically...is NOT condone or contribute to calamity. by Jody 2012-12-17 12:33:59
- Conservatives appear fond of a meme... by mcfly 2012-12-20 21:08:24
Adam Lanza is a fluke, an outlier, an accident. by ER 2012-12-17 11:37:24

ER's post moved to Flame (n/t) by Robert December 20, 2012 6:32 pm

In response to "What motive?", from below. by ER December 19, 2012 7:16 am

It's about ignorance. by TB 2012-12-19 10:31:05
- You're obviously not up to date on your ghetto crime stats. by ER 2012-12-19 13:09:00
  - "The assault rifle has become the weapon of choice in drive-by shootings." by TB 2012-12-19 14:00:05
    - No Tom, the car and the victims are both stationary. by ER 2012-12-19 14:57:53
      - You're making this stuff up. n/t by RobVG 2012-12-20 10:13:56
        
        You just noticed that? by TB 2012-12-20 10:16:51
The subject. by RobVG 2012-12-19 09:23:55
- I'd feel safer if my neighbors did not own guns. by alcaray 2012-12-19 14:11:10
- No, YOU want to talk about murders only because it fits your narrative better. by ER 2012-12-19 13:20:01
  - Because in this context, only murders are relevant. by TB 2012-12-19 14:08:38
    - No, Tom. You don't get to pick what we're going to talk about. by ER 2012-12-19 14:49:01
      - Look very far for what? by TB 2012-12-19 21:31:25
- More on violent criminals as the problem: by TB 2012-12-19 11:11:28
  - Right off the top of my head I can think of 27 who don't. by ER 2012-12-19 13:10:13

250 years of school shootings by RobVG December 16, 2012 11:10 am

People are going to get sick no matter what we do, so why bother building hospitals? by alcaray 2012-12-16 14:00:49
- If you're suggesting there is nothing we can do to stop gun violence, I disagree n/t by RobVG 2012-12-16 14:50:07
  - I'm not suggesting any such thing. by alcaray 2012-12-16 15:01:11
    - Funny, I was't trying to make a point. n/t by RobVG 2012-12-16 16:01:20
      - I noticed that by Robert 2012-12-16 20:46:40
        
        The pornography analogy is apt. by ER 2012-12-16 23:36:36
        
        and by Robert 2012-12-17 15:35:12
        
        My girls are all markswomen. by MaryAnne 2012-12-17 17:25:52
        
        Mass murderers are almost always men by Robert 2012-12-17 19:39:08
        
        "I’m sure you can guess where I think gun violence comes from." by TB 2012-12-17 10:11:59
        
        Please proceed. by ER 2012-12-17 10:50:49
        
        Black on Black or gang related for starters. n/t by RobVG 2012-12-17 17:36:55
        
        Citizens are citizens. by alcaray 2012-12-17 23:34:32
        
        I don't consider violent criminals "citizens". by RobVG 2012-12-18 08:45:01
        
        "I can’t think of any other reason why blacks would be killing blacks." by ER 2012-12-18 14:38:11
        
        My god you are so off base. I expect an apology. Don't care if I receive it. n/t by RobVG 2012-12-18 18:37:16
        
        "I can’t think of any other reason why blacks would be killing blacks." by ER 2012-12-18 20:07:42
        
        Guess I should have added 'in such numbers'. by RobVG 2012-12-18 22:26:47
        
        You're missing the point. Deliberately. Again. by TB 2012-12-18 14:41:49
        
        You obviously didn't read my post. by ER 2012-12-18 16:14:29
        
        Oh, I read it. I read everything. by TB 2012-12-18 20:22:06
        
        So tell me, Tom. What's my motive? by ER 2012-12-18 21:16:10
        
        What "motive?" by TB 2012-12-18 21:47:59
        
        See above. by ER 2012-12-19 06:27:57
        
        Some statistics: by TB 2012-12-18 09:13:39
        
        Gangs of New York by ER 2012-12-17 19:12:21
        
        See? Thread's already dead. by TB 2012-12-17 10:56:46
        
        Maybe the problem is the underlying premise that something can always be "done." by TB 2012-12-16 21:21:01
        
        Humans do things to make things better. by alcaray 2012-12-16 22:58:41
        
        Licensing surgeons and airline pilots doesn't guarantee they won't make mistakes. by ER 2012-12-16 22:50:47
        
        Cooler heads. by RobVG 2012-12-16 21:08:10
        
        There are things to talk about by Robert 2012-12-17 13:36:04
        
        Tasers figured in a local case of wrongful death, decided against the police. by MaryAnne 2012-12-17 18:38:36
        
        Lethality is a statistical concept by Robert 2012-12-17 19:45:24
        
        Simple question. Why do you want to bring the 2nd amendment into it? n/t by RobVG 2012-12-17 17:33:44
        
        Because it's frequently cited as preventing any attempt to control guns. by Robert 2012-12-17 19:43:11
        
        Fair enough by RobVG 2012-12-17 21:13:49
        
        Connecticut still has an assault weapons ban. by TB 2012-12-18 07:27:51
        
        right you are by Robert 2012-12-17 22:24:37
        
        Monster porn by RobVG 2012-12-16 21:38:15
        
        There's more to it than just pro and anti gun sides. by ER 2012-12-16 22:36:56
      - And yet, you did. by alcaray 2012-12-16 20:44:57

Why the gun is civilization by TB December 18, 2012 3:30 pm

What a noble and carefully reasoned sentiment. by ER 2012-12-18 16:24:46

Why the "24 hour" rule is a good idea by TB December 18, 2012 8:54 am

The same thing happens in all fast-moving, remote incidents. by ER 2012-12-18 12:23:00
- News, 24-7. by TB 2012-12-18 13:49:07

Some thoughts about race. (Continued from below). by ER December 18, 2012 9:57 am

I'm double-posting a comment here from below. by TB 2012-12-18 10:20:25
- I did some edits while you guys were responding. You might want to re-read my post. by ER 2012-12-18 10:32:49
No one said anything about DNA! by RobVG 2012-12-18 10:11:21

Joe Scarborough weighs in... by ER December 17, 2012 12:52 pm

I don't see this "anger" in the populace, at least not yet. Not surprising he's trying to stir it. n/t by RobVG 2012-12-17 17:56:03
- Why would he be "trying to stir it"? by ER 2012-12-17 19:55:44
  - Maybe the populace is still grieving. by RobVG 2012-12-17 20:57:54

I hate to dwell on this...but by ER December 15, 2012 8:54 am

22 children in China are NOT dead because the psycho didn't have a gun. by BuckGalaxy 2012-12-16 18:34:14
Richard Farley and Laura Black by ER 2012-12-15 10:12:59

Hillary Clinton falls, suffers concussion by ER December 15, 2012 5:18 pm

I once had a friend... by alcaray 2012-12-16 03:59:40
Getting older sucks.:( by Jody 2012-12-15 18:00:02

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