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Penn Jillette: Why I am a Libertarian... by Jody December 18, 2011 4:23 pm
  • Quick question: If someone tries to proselytize me without my consent, would making a counter-preach of my viewpoint ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-12-20 20:26:19
    Ron Paul surging in Iowa by BuckGalaxy December 17, 2011 3:48 pm
    • EDITED: Placement error (Belongs Below) by ER 2011-12-19 21:20:31
      • The "cover charge" at a middle-ground state school has quadrupled over the cost of living index. by TB 2011-12-19 21:34:30
        • The subsidies are probably the prime reason the costs are going up so drastically, and we should probably include the ... by TB 2011-12-19 21:31:16
        • Ya gotta just close your eyes and believe real hard in Tinkerpaul, Buck by Robert 2011-12-18 13:08:14
          • Mr Paul is a sort of Utopian Libertarian, sort of the right wing analogue (or should I say 'mirror reflection'?) ... by ER 2011-12-18 15:12:32
            • One man's utopia, etc. by Robert 2011-12-19 17:06:46
              • Amazing how that "let him die" story has evolved in the liberal imagination. by TB 2011-12-19 19:12:22
                • Yeah, but booing the Gay GI is still my favorite glimpse into the limbic system of the Conservative mind. by ER 2011-12-19 19:30:19
                  • That didn't happen the way you think it did either. by TB 2011-12-19 20:27:41
                    • I know how it happened. I was watching on live TV. I don't need no stinkin' footnotes. by ER 2011-12-19 21:04:06
                      • It was like two people. by TB 2011-12-19 21:27:26
                • I've yet to see one of these GOP nominees that looked like he was playing with a full deck, except ... by ER 2011-12-19 18:06:54
                  • In December of 1979, Gallup had Carter leading Reagan by 24 points. by TB 2011-12-19 19:21:31
                    • Tom, watching you trying to cover for Bush was just entertaining, seeing you try to make excuses for any of ... by ER 2011-12-19 19:37:25
                • You don't know the half of it. by TB 2011-12-19 08:58:44
                  • I heard that Obama is boosting efforts to get universities to consider race in admissions. To me, that sounds racist. by Jody 2011-12-19 11:33:07
                    • No problem. After they get rid of Obama and the Dems only people who can afford the tuition will get ... by ER 2011-12-19 18:15:58
                      • Does every answer...okay almost every response from you have to be so snarky? Do I treat you like that? If I ... by Jody 2011-12-19 19:21:05
                        • That's not snarky, that's pure Libertarian/Conservative doctrine. The only people who deserve to go to college are those who've earned the ... by ER 2011-12-19 19:40:34
                          • Yes, and liberal "doctrine" is that anyone who "deserves" to have something should be able to force someone else to ... by TB 2011-12-19 20:24:04
                            • College has NEVER been affordable. The rich and the middle class has always had a subsidy. Tuition was ... by ER 2011-12-19 20:49:01
                              • Wrong. Here's the graph again. . College used to be a hell of a lot more affordable, both for state ... by TB 2011-12-19 20:51:33
                                • When I went to the University of Minnesota, the only school I could afford, annual tuition (fall, winter, spring quarters) ... by TB 2011-12-19 21:08:09
                                  • EDITED: Posting artifact by ER 2011-12-19 21:41:52
                            • Pure Libertarian/Conservative doctrine? Then are you lumping ME into this purity? by Jody 2011-12-19 20:01:18
                              • Of course not, and I'm sorry if it seems I'm picking on you. I'm really not. But I do apologize. I ... by ER 2011-12-19 20:42:39
                            • It's not snark when ER does it. Only when I do it. by TB 2011-12-19 19:22:38
                              • I'm sorry if you feel abused, TB. I tell ya what, in the future, I promise I'll go easy on ... by ER 2011-12-19 19:47:58
                                • That's been a pretty common response, too. by TB 2011-12-19 20:13:38
                                  • Go ahead, Tom. You don't have anything better to do. by ER 2011-12-19 21:23:12
                        • I am voting for the cannibal prawn over in Space/Science for president. by Jody 2011-12-19 11:26:29
                    Heavy metal is back by TB December 16, 2011 7:25 pm
                      Christopher Hitchens gone at 62 by Jody December 16, 2011 2:51 pm
                      • Yes, there are atheists in foxholes. by ER 2011-12-17 14:28:58
                        • Ah, yes. You raised a point, the reason I'm alive. After being sober a number of years, abusing ... by bowser 2011-12-17 15:29:13
                          • It was Thomas Paine, definitely not an atheist, but also definitely not a Christian. by TB 2011-12-17 14:48:49
                            • Thanks for clearing that up TB, I've always wanted some documentation for that story. But what I really want ... by ER 2011-12-17 15:09:19
                              • I am at the age where I am losing close older relatives. They all fought as best they could, ... by TB 2011-12-17 21:33:35
                                • I feel the same way, but I'm still relatively healthy, and I'm not in excruciating pain with no hope of ... by ER 2011-12-18 07:14:52
                                  • Me, too ER....and pain tolerance, emotional tolerance, age tolerance, loneliness tolerance, cost tolerance, watching others suffer as a result tolerance, ... by Jody 2011-12-18 08:28:02
                          A bit more on that pesky drone. by bowser December 12, 2011 6:55 pm
                          • US asks Iran to return it. Iran says no. Nuff said. by RobVG 2011-12-13 17:27:23
                            • It's a diplomatic nicety. When the N Koreans requested we return one of their late-model MIGS which a defector ... by ER 2011-12-14 13:29:53
                              • It's only polite to return things cleaner than when you got them. by bowser 2011-12-14 23:43:28
                              • Hands up, anyone who thought that would work. by TB 2011-12-13 19:58:34
                                • An illegal spying overflight comes into the hands of those upon whom it was spying. And it should be given back? The ... by bowser 2011-12-14 01:23:15
                              • In the last thousand years, I doubt that any non-illiterate person over 50 has died believing government is truthful. by FrankC 2011-12-13 15:43:45
                                • On May Day, 1960, the USSR shot down a US spy plane, the U2, and captured its pilot, Gary Powers. ... by ER 2011-12-12 21:49:03
                                  • Powers was vilified in the American press. It was claimed he had agreed to commit suicide instead of being ... by bowser 2011-12-13 04:41:20
                                  • Another opinion that thinks the drone is real, here. by TB 2011-12-12 19:51:50
                                    • The drone could have been recovered by commandos or destroyed by air strike if we had known where it was ... by ER 2011-12-12 19:11:45
                                      • A GPS tracking unit and a contingency plan would have helped. n/t by RobVG 2011-12-12 20:24:43
                                        • A GPS unit broadcasting the drone's position might not be a good idea. Sure, you could encrypt the transmitted ... by ER 2011-12-12 20:37:04
                                          • Beacon- long interval, short duration n/t by RobVG 2011-12-12 20:54:19
                                            • If we can hear it, it's not impossible for them to hear it. Unfortunately, an RPV must constantly feedback information to ... by ER 2011-12-12 22:11:20
                                        • IF it was recovered early, and IF it was moved to a secure area in a heavily populated part of ... by bowser 2011-12-12 19:21:12
                                          • I guess that settles it, then. Obama's just got no cojones. by ER 2011-12-12 19:25:11
                                        Retirement age under scrutiny by Jody December 12, 2011 1:09 pm
                                        • EDITED: I retired at 62, after 20 years in the system, and my Florida Retirement System benefit is less ... by ER 2011-12-12 13:38:06
                                          I stand corrected by Jody December 10, 2011 11:24 am
                                          • As you were. n/t by bowser 2011-12-11 20:16:50
                                            Back to that drone. On BBC Iran says it electronically hijacked and landed it. by bowser December 9, 2011 8:15 pm
                                            • i'm not surprised that Iran would say something like that. I think they just got lucky and took advantage of ... by ER 2011-12-09 20:37:00
                                              • I really hope you're right. Neither side in this has any incentive to be entirely accurate with the public. by TB 2011-12-09 20:46:51
                                                • Isn't that always the case? Both belligerents are perfectly aware of what the other is up to. It's ... by ER 2011-12-10 05:39:59
                                                  • It would seem to me to be relatively easy to jam, simply overwhelm it with electromatic radiation to the point ... by bowser 2011-12-10 02:30:05
                                                    • Yes, but to jam effectively, you need to know when and where the drone is coming. And covering that ... by ER 2011-12-10 05:48:08
                                                      • True. A couple of thoughts. Article says the US thought about sending in commandos to get it. ... by bowser 2011-12-10 07:05:14
                                                        • They should be equipped with a large explosive device. by Lee 2011-12-11 16:56:21
                                                          • You obviously haven't thought this through. by ER 2011-12-12 09:19:20
                                                            • I could think of ways of neutralizing expensive electronics and devices without anything noticable happening outside the vehicle except maybe ... by TB 2011-12-12 10:06:49
                                                              • You've got a good point. But even if these measures were not a safety hazard, as would be a ... by ER 2011-12-12 10:22:00
                                                          • It's still too early to properly speculate, not all the facts are out yet, and may not be for years. Regarding ... by ER 2011-12-10 07:50:25
                                                  A plot to undermine the Right To Bear Arms. by Jody December 9, 2011 7:20 am
                                                  • Road sign up ahead... You have entered the Twilight Zone! by BuckGalaxy 2011-12-10 03:33:44
                                                    • Noah Chomsky says that the average middle class male votes based upon guns and "religiosity". Which seems to be ... by bowser 2011-12-09 18:19:08
                                                      • I've published this in the Zone before, but just in case you missed it, here it is again. It ... by ER 2011-12-09 16:27:33
                                                        • cold dead hands, etc, etc. by FrankC 2011-12-09 16:04:32
                                                          • A successful plot to undermine the Constitution. I've NEVER seen an adequate explanation for forgetting "a well regulated militia". ... by bowser 2011-12-09 15:10:03
                                                            • Tell ya what, you can crank the Second Amendment back to what you think is "original intent" if we can ... by TB 2011-12-09 15:15:32
                                                              • At it's most liberal interpretation, the 2nd allows people to have muskets. Period. The arms of the day. And ... by bowser 2011-12-09 15:34:53
                                                                • Sorry, you brought up "clear meaning of the Constitution." Didn't mean to confuse anyone. by TB 2011-12-09 15:41:57
                                                                  • Au, contraire, mon ami. You DID mean to confuse the issue. We were talking about the clear meaning ... by bowser 2011-12-09 17:54:14
                                                                    • You fell into Tom's trap several posts ago, Bowser. The Commerce Clause isn't irrelevant, though the bargain you were offered ... by Robert 2011-12-11 14:11:13
                                                                      • Beautifully articulated! by ER 2011-12-12 09:05:45
                                                                        • Thanks. It's a new epiphany inspired by my current reading: "Marathon" by Richard A. Billows, about the battle of Marathon ... by Robert 2011-12-12 10:34:27
                                                                          • It was good Roberto!!! by Jody 2011-12-12 09:53:24
                                                                            • Thanks Jody (n/t) by Robert 2011-12-12 10:36:46
                                                                              • Not sure why. by TB 2011-12-12 10:10:07
                                                                                • You offered Bowsers a straw man choice. How about a real choice: Trade the Pentagon (the un-Constitutional standing army) for ... by Robert 2011-12-12 10:36:19
                                                                                  • Athens also had a strong tradition of public service, about as strong as our obsession with commercial success. If ... by ER 2011-12-12 11:16:32
                                                                                    • A major corporation would inevitably wonder why it should be subordinate to a mere government if it has the wealth ... by Robert 2011-12-12 12:16:43
                                                                                      • One of my favorite parts of the Athenian "Golden Age:" Most importantly, and in order to emphasize the concept of equality ... by TB 2011-12-12 12:01:10
                                                                                        • Good point. Running out of room. Worth continuing in a new thread? There is more: Crux is requirement for "particular ... by Robert 2011-12-12 12:13:02
                                                                  • I don't want to get involved in this border gun controversy, I know nothing about it, but I do wish ... by ER 2011-12-09 08:15:21
                                                                    • Of course you know nothing about it. by TB 2011-12-09 12:41:29
                                                                      • Ouch! It's dat ole debbil Leftist Media Conspiracy out to get me. The Holder story is about a really stupid ... by ER 2011-12-09 13:42:35
                                                                        • You mean, why don't I carry on the discussion from the side track you've put it on? by TB 2011-12-09 14:31:23
                                                                          • Absolutely. by ER 2011-12-09 15:14:55
                                                                            • I'm curious. What exactly does a "seized forum" look like? by TB 2011-12-09 15:25:19
                                                                              • A forum where we talk about what you want to talk about, and we talk about it in the way ... by ER 2011-12-09 16:03:38
                                                                    Captured drone in Iran by TB December 8, 2011 10:35 pm
                                                                    • An early report said it was flying over Afghanistan and suddenly turned left and crashed. If indeed the encryption was figured ... by bowser 2011-12-09 02:17:04
                                                                      • There are alternative explanations, unfortunately contradictory, according to two "experts" I heard on the news. One said the aircraft might have ... by ER 2011-12-09 06:14:23
                                                                        • There are actually a lot more alternative explanations floating around. by TB 2011-12-09 10:09:56
                                                                          • Well, don't leave us in suspense! Feel free to speculate. My best guess is that the bird was spying on ... by ER 2011-12-09 10:35:46
                                                                      Government smothering private sector by TB December 8, 2011 10:44 am
                                                                      • Interesting. Don't mess with Dupont or Goldman, Sachs. Article describes private enterprise, private ownership, disgruntled employee leaving and ... by bowser 2011-12-08 14:44:39
                                                                        • Well, look on the bright side, Tom. Maybe they'll stop curing their drywall in formaldehyde now. by ER 2011-12-08 12:30:50
                                                                          70th anniversary of attack on Pearl Harbor by TB December 7, 2011 9:55 am
                                                                          • It was a dark day for the US, but already, a new day was dawning in the East. by ER 2011-12-07 11:03:21
                                                                            • Not a complete surprise, it was half an answer to Roosevelt's problem. The US knew an attack was coming, but expected ... by bowser 2011-12-07 12:43:13
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