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Cain's new "9-0-9" plan by RobVG October 22, 2011 11:01 am

I have never seen any form of flat tax or "fair" tax proposed that did not have an outlet for ... by TB 2011-10-22 11:57:34
- "What is needed is some kind of radical tax reform. The status quo, “business as usual,” is killing us. " The ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-23 15:44:55
  - Liberals seem obsessed with the "wealth gap" in this country. by TB 2011-10-23 20:23:31
- P.S. by TB 2011-10-22 12:02:22
  - Those numbers were recently published for the 999 plan. They're working on the 909. n/t by RobVG 2011-10-22 12:08:09
    - If they come up with new stuff, let us know. by TB 2011-10-22 12:51:26
      - If you look at the tables for 909, it looks like a landslide of tax burden from the wealthy to ... by RobVG 2011-10-22 17:43:17
        
        "The economy runs on consumer consumption. Wealthy will buy more commodities like legal services, stocks, and one off items like ... by TB 2011-10-22 19:05:50
        
        Myth? Try taking $5000 away from every citizen this minute and see what happens. n/t by RobVG 2011-10-22 19:59:57
        
        Fine, scrap 9-9-9, or 9-0-9, or whatever. by TB 2011-10-22 20:29:10
        
        Cain’s just dangling red meat. by RobVG 2011-10-23 09:43:28
        
        Now there you've made a very good point. Uncertainty with government financial policies is a big problem right now, and fundamental ... by TB 2011-10-23 11:25:34
        
        I think we've landed on the same page n/t by RobVG 2011-10-23 13:15:54
        
        I pity the fool that tries that on me. by FrankC 2011-10-22 20:20:24
        
        So how much are they taking away now? by TB 2011-10-22 20:38:30

Take that, Global Warming Skeptics! by Eri October 22, 2011 7:10 am

Anyone that doubts global warming isn't paying attention. Anyone that doubts humans contribute hasn't considered the fact that there are 7 ... by FrankC 2011-10-22 13:35:47
Not so fast. by TB 2011-10-22 08:58:06

North Korea by TB October 21, 2011 4:23 pm

Trouble in paradise by TB October 21, 2011 11:05 am

New "Robin Hood Tax" by RobVG 2011-10-22 08:51:00
- My kids used to like the Disney "Robin Hood" movie. by TB 2011-10-22 09:55:54
Wealth redistribution, cont. by TB 2011-10-21 19:57:05

Some of the 1 % stands with 99% by Eri October 21, 2011 5:19 am

So how long before they begin going after the 2%...3%...4%...5%...etc? by Lee 2011-10-21 13:35:55
- All this "1 percent" stuff is raw idiocy. by TB 2011-10-21 15:19:51
Did you notice what they had in common? by TB 2011-10-21 07:15:26
- Yes, they're all right-thinking individuals (as in left brain rational). by Eri 2011-10-21 09:02:45
  - All of them in that article are young people who inherited all their wealth. by TB 2011-10-21 09:22:38
    - You're clawing at sand and it's giving way beneath you. Many made their own money, the article talks about ... by Eri 2011-10-21 10:14:58
      - I don't play in sand, Eri. I work on granite. by TB 2011-10-21 10:32:25

Sic Semper Tyrannis by Jeff-Wash October 20, 2011 9:59 am

Gaddafi's sin. Did you ever wonder why the West went after Gaddafi? "Gaddafi says looking at oil firm nationalization." http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/01/21/us-libya-gaddafi-oil-idUSTRE50K61F20090121 You mess ... by bowser 2011-10-20 20:50:36
Ding dong, the warlock is dead. by Eri 2011-10-20 18:38:50
There will be a lot more information on this, but it's going to take a while for the news chaff ... by TB 2011-10-20 12:54:34

Are you smarter than an "occupier?" by TB October 18, 2011 1:48 pm

What do they want? I can't figure that out! Do they want EASIER work, and MORE money with it? At least the 1960's ... by Jeff-Wash 2011-10-19 12:39:03

Ron Paul to balance the budget by the 3rd year of his presidency by RobVG October 17, 2011 10:31 pm

I hate to state the obvious, but then I guess it's not so obvious to people who ignore reality. ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-19 21:24:42
- I know what your saying but if you lay off a government worker making $75,000, whose taxes are say around ... by RobVG 2011-10-20 10:08:03
  - You also have to calculate the reduced demand in the economy by that person's vastly diminished spending power. You ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 15:32:44
    - I understand you, I really do by RobVG 2011-10-20 19:56:06
- No government job pays more taxes into the system than it uses up. Think about it. by TB 2011-10-20 10:06:15
  - We've got 9% unemployment. We've got one job for every five people unemployed. This is not the ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 15:26:05
    - So cutting government jobs is going to shrink the tax base? by TB 2011-10-20 15:30:51
      - Wow. Can you read? The tax base point was only one element I mentioned, but you latch onto ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 15:44:13
        
        You can keep repeating it. It isn't going to help. by TB 2011-10-20 16:04:17
        
        Still trying to drill into your head my point: regardless, when no one is spending in the economy the ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 19:42:11
        
        "It’s been done many times successfully so any claims it has not are wrong." Name two. And before you pop ... by TB 2011-10-20 20:34:57
        
        I'm really bored with this round and round BS. we've had this conversation. I've shown you proof of ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-21 23:32:49
        
        Okay, let me get this straight: by TB 2011-10-22 09:36:39
        
        No you don't get it straight. As always. The time to cut government IS when the budget is ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-23 13:58:13
        
        Any politician who is standing over a $1.3 trillion deficit and thinks the government still isn't spending enough not only ... by TB 2011-10-23 15:12:31
Actually, some of his ideas aren't bad. But he'll never get elected with this budget plan. Everybody wants cuts ... by Eri 2011-10-18 00:30:04
- "...Everybody wants cuts until it comes to their piece of the pie." Boy, you nailed that one. This attitude is ... by TB 2011-10-18 08:12:10

The succession of the Dalai Lama by TB October 17, 2011 6:06 pm

Far out, man! by TB October 17, 2011 5:48 pm

Hanging on to the status quo by RobVG 2011-10-19 09:41:04
Is there any reason for having speed limits? Should speeding be treated any differently than marijuana possession? After ... by bowser 2011-10-17 20:41:54
- Both marijuana and alcohol (in the form of wine) have medicinal benefits. My glass of wine a day raises ... by Eri 2011-10-18 00:41:06
- That recreational drugs can be harmful is undeniable. But tossing people into jail for using them seems to me ... by TB 2011-10-17 20:54:43
  - And how are they any different from speeding, gambling, running stop signs, prostitution, etc., and so on. Or are the only ... by bowser 2011-10-17 21:25:27
    - They're not in the same category, and it's a lot more complicated than "victimless crimes" vs. "crimes against property." Someone who ... by TB 2011-10-18 08:22:35
    - Was that a low blow? n/t by RobVG 2011-10-17 21:59:48
      - Yeah, it probably was. I get a bit frustrated with two general types of crimes, victimless and crimes against ... by bowser 2011-10-17 22:29:01

Cain would benefit greatly from his 9-9-9 plan by Eri October 16, 2011 5:53 am

Interesting. by TB 2011-10-18 14:17:36
I look at tax laws from a civil rights perspective. by Lee 2011-10-17 18:09:39
Interesting. Most of the concern seems to be less about economic growth than the nagging fear that somebody, somewhere, ... by TB 2011-10-16 12:45:39
- You're still missing the point. The man comes up with a tax plan that will benefit him but will ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:36:46
  - No, you're missing the point. by Lee 2011-10-17 10:32:16
    - I've already made the point many times that the wealthy in this country are paying for the vast majority of ... by TB 2011-10-17 11:11:26
  - You're missing the point. by TB 2011-10-17 07:40:34
    - I talk regularly to someone who lives half the year in Greece and the other half in Canada. What ... by Eri 2011-10-17 14:23:39
      - As someone now living in British Columbia, Canada, I like Cain. I would vote for him. In fact, I think that some ... by Jeff-Wash 2011-10-19 12:46:34
      - In that case, everything in Greece and Europe should be great. There's LOTS of money left in Europe to ... by TB 2011-10-17 14:29:39
        
        He's from Canada and is retired. His wife is Greek and he's part Greek. He's been spending a ... by Eri 2011-10-17 16:45:22
He scares me too Eri by RobVG 2011-10-16 11:01:35
- I could never vote for a candidate that opposed all abortion. Like you said he could not get it done ... by FrankC 2011-10-16 12:33:45
  - We all might be surprised how much a truly right wing extremist on social issues could get done just by ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:40:40
    - "We all might be surprised how much a truly right wing extremist on social issues could get done just by ... by TB 2011-10-17 07:29:46
- I have my own problems with Cain's specifics. by TB 2011-10-16 11:14:25
  - An interesting side effect of eliminating the personal interest deduction is the disappearance of usury controls. Consumer interest was capped ... by FrankC 2011-10-16 12:17:40
  - I think 999 was designed to set Cain apart. by RobVG 2011-10-16 11:47:44
    - Exactly right. But unless you believe that the wealthy have tax shelters to greatly lower their income, the “rich” are going ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:44:29
Note that his system taxes capital gains, just as normal income. by TB 2011-10-16 06:41:33
- It does NOT tax capital gains. That is the point of the article. Cain’s 9–9-9 proposal has kicked off fierce ... by Eri 2011-10-16 09:32:56
  - You might be right. I am finding nothing specific on it either way. by TB 2011-10-16 10:05:18
    - Yep, when that tax rate was peaking was when I sold my rental property. by Eri 2011-10-16 21:51:21
    - I have never understood the reluctance of liberals to recognize the facts demonstrated in that chart. I try to keep ... by FrankC 2011-10-16 11:03:36
      - It's one of many facts. by TB 2011-10-16 11:06:24
        
        That includes increasing taxes on consumers by RobVG 2011-10-16 12:44:22
        
        The consumers who might have purchased a new car will simply put new tires on the old one, forgo purchasing ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:54:49
        
        Do you think nearly half of this country should pay no Federal income taxes? What happens when that gets ... by TB 2011-10-16 13:07:58
        
        No I don't n/t by RobVG 2011-10-16 14:50:17

Calling for a "declaration of national emergency" by TB October 14, 2011 4:10 pm

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