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How disgusting is this? by Eri September 15, 2011 7:04 am

Almost anything originating with Robertson is disgusting. Independent of Robertson, I am somewhat conflicted. My wife's step mother died with Alzheimer's. ... by FrankC 2011-09-15 10:38:38
- Frank, I can understand that there are circumstances where one may want to go on with their lives and I ... by Eri 2011-09-15 16:09:04
My wife sometimes pops up with how I got kind of a crappy deal when I married someone who got ... by TB 2011-09-15 09:19:41
- RESPECT. by BuckGalaxy 2011-09-15 23:51:37
- TB, I so very admire that and your wife is a very lucky woman. (Now, if we could only change your ... by Eri 2011-09-15 16:16:04
  - The part you're going to find very odd is that my political views come from the same principles. :) "This is ... by TB 2011-09-15 16:54:56
    - My sister has the same principles and is not a Republican or a conservative. Your assumption is, and this ... by Eri 2011-09-16 13:21:54
      - Actually, the point was the consistent presentation of conservatives on this board as people who have no morals or compassion. ... by TB 2011-09-16 13:49:16
        
        I have to admit guilt to labeling some conservatives as morally bankrupt and some very well are. I shouldn't ... by Eri 2011-09-16 16:03:15
        
        I'm not sure why you think compassion for individuals or local people doesn't "touch my wallet." Where do you ... by TB 2011-09-16 16:09:25
        
        Not hardly. My wallet helps take care of it. I pay my share of taxes, a larger percentage ... by Eri 2011-09-16 23:26:17
        
        That's great, seriously, but you aren't the one in the dock here. As a liberal Democrat, your virtue and ... by TB 2011-09-17 07:28:06
- Exactly TB. Although my husband pushed the boundaries of *for better or worse* a few years back, on an emotional level ... by Jody 2011-09-15 09:42:47
This boils my blood. by Jody 2011-09-15 08:15:02
Have you noticed how this guy always has that same phony smile painted on his face? It's not just ... by ER 2011-09-15 07:42:26

More on Bachmann and vaccinations by TB September 14, 2011 8:27 am

Whether or not the government should be involved in forcing medical procedures on those who don't want them (even for ... by ER 2011-09-14 10:29:34
- I have not done any survey either, but gonadification is STILL rampant. You bring up an interesting view ER.....I have to ... by Jody 2011-09-14 11:05:03
  - gonadification? by ER 2011-09-14 11:20:01
    - yep....actually when I was a youngin' we would add 'ification' to everything...heh..we were groovy!... by Jody 2011-09-14 13:44:40
    - I think it's a polite way to say by Robert 2011-09-14 11:29:20
      - ROBERT!!!! :) by Jody 2011-09-14 13:45:24

AP has called NY-09 race for Republican Bob Turner by TB September 13, 2011 9:08 pm

Pournelle on compulsory vaccinations by TB September 13, 2011 8:54 pm

EDITED: It’s her taking the bait from Blitzer, whose sole task up there was to try to get Republican candidates to ... by ER 2011-09-14 05:36:11
- Oh, speaking of paranoia... Before anyone pops back, think hard about what you would have said about Bush if he had ... by TB 2011-09-14 09:52:48
  - A story on this from the Washington Post. Interestingly, when I looked at this yesterday, the headline said "laughing ... by TB 2011-09-15 09:58:05
  - That's pretty funny, but I can't decide whether its someone making fun of liberals, or someone making fun of conservatives ... by ER 2011-09-14 11:17:38
    - Are you talking about the website or the YouTube? The website is real, and totally serious, put out by Obama For ... by TB 2011-09-14 11:47:53
      - Then I'm all for it. Someone needs to put the kabosh on the Fascist agitprop machine. For example, multiple GOP ... by ER 2011-09-14 12:31:00
        
        And on the subject of "agitprop:" Something interesting has happened in the past few years. Remember the old Soviet Union, ... by TB 2011-09-14 13:28:07
        
        Nice jump from "this has to be a joke" to "great idea." Interesting choice of color scheme on the website, by ... by TB 2011-09-14 13:19:49
  - Heh. Sure doesn't take long nowadays to gin stuff like this up. by TB 2011-09-14 09:58:44
    - Well, at least it's nice to know Gilbert Gottfried got another job after he got fired from being the voice ... by ER 2011-09-14 10:45:15
      - But he sure makes a great 'Digit' by Jody 2011-09-14 11:08:37
- By the way, there's a debate transcript here. by TB 2011-09-14 06:53:17
  - Thanks for the link TB...now a question...who do you think "came out on top?" by Jody 2011-09-14 09:28:57
    - Jody, at this point, I personally don't care. I don't watch these "debates." They aren't really debates anyway, ... by TB 2011-09-14 09:45:03
  - From the transcript: "MR. BLITZER: Congresswoman Bachmann, do you have a problem with anything that Governor Perry just said? You're a ... by ER 2011-09-14 07:11:23
    - Look at all the questions. Almost all of them are straight along the planned Democratic lines of attack for ... by TB 2011-09-14 08:12:29
      - I agree with Ron Paul....there should be an *opt out* for the up and coming generation. by Jody 2011-09-14 09:30:57
        
        ...sorry...that is for S.S....not the actual topic on the right...sigh...I digress...as usual. by Jody 2011-09-14 09:32:37
      - Tom, I have no doubt whatsoever you actually believe what you're saying, or you would never have posted a link ... by ER 2011-09-14 09:29:53
- You are very quick at dismissing a lot of people you know little about. Pournelle, who I have read ... by TB 2011-09-14 06:37:24
  - There is no reason you can't be crazy and smart at the same time. In fact, there seems to be ... by ER 2011-09-14 06:57:09
- heh....you should try being a social liberal/fiscal conservative. by Jody 2011-09-14 05:38:37
  - Jody, I am a social liberal and fiscal conservative. But with these yahoos, you're always too liberal and never conservative enough. by ER 2011-09-14 06:00:18
    - I am also...thus my post.....I do not feel that I am too liberal or not conservative enough...I feel that THEY ... by Jody 2011-09-14 06:09:57
      - You're right, social and fiscal issues should have no connection, and a position on one should not automatically translate to ... by ER 2011-09-14 06:30:28
        
        ER! ;) by Jody 2011-09-14 06:35:17

Japanese earthquake, six months later by TB September 13, 2011 7:23 pm

Perry Asks for Federal Funds to Fight Wildfires After Slashing State Fire Budget by BuckGalaxy September 12, 2011 4:03 pm

Yep, State's rights are great and people should pull themselves up their own bootstraps and living off the Feds is ... by Eri 2011-09-12 20:59:11
Nothing good ever came out of Texas. by ER 2011-09-12 16:50:46
- oh hush you ole poop...I am from thar and dems fightin' words. I am the best damn thing that has come ... by Jody 2011-09-12 20:50:37
  - Of which Perry is a steady customer, of course, on alternate nights when he's not thumping Bibles. by Eri 2011-09-12 21:00:19

Greek bonds by TB September 12, 2011 8:39 am

9/11 by TB September 11, 2011 11:57 am

I have been compelled to watch anything I could find today about 9/11. I settled in with the History Channel ... by Jody 2011-09-11 20:11:42
The serendipitous free verse of memories by TB 2011-09-11 18:35:15
Another film here of the new memorial. by TB 2011-09-11 18:28:23

The story of "Lucky" Penney by TB September 10, 2011 7:35 pm

I call BS. ... by Lee 2011-09-11 07:14:07
- Yes, the bullets could have, probably would have, brought it down, but where might it have landed? The idea ... by Eri 2011-09-11 18:27:40
- If you read the article, you see that they had to take off without live ammunition. by TB 2011-09-11 08:02:45
  - Not according to the article I read. ... by Lee 2011-09-11 09:39:01
Be careful what you hope for. The creeps who hijacked those planes came from countries that had no trouble ... by ER 2011-09-11 05:33:34

Time for Israel to reoccupy the Sinai. by Lee September 9, 2011 9:12 pm

Ten years after Pearl Harbor by TB September 9, 2011 7:22 pm

As I've alluded before, the wallowing in 9/11 nostalgia is not for me, in fact, I feel it a form ... by ER 2011-09-11 06:04:45
- Agreed! It's too painful. by Jeff-Wash 2011-09-11 15:09:05
- The simplest explanation was that Japan was an ally by 1951, and things were different. Wars seemed to settle ... by TB 2011-09-11 08:05:38
  - There's also the guilt that was felt by many Americans over the dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki; ... by Jeff-Wash 2011-09-11 15:18:47
    - In addition, a little off topic, speaking of Hiroshima, President Truman felt guilty in the years after 1945 over the fact ... by Jeff-Wash 2011-09-11 15:28:56
      - I'm not sure why Hiroshima and Nagasaki would generate any more or less guilt than, for example, the firebombing of ... by TB 2011-09-11 17:56:18
  - The common people in warring countries used to go right back to normal trade and travel as soon as their ... by ER 2011-09-11 09:01:48

"Are jobs obsolete?" by Robert September 9, 2011 6:33 pm

This concludes this test of the system. We now return you to your original programming. by TB 2011-09-11 11:43:57
I imagine Tom originally posted the Rushkoff essay in some forlorn hope that all the lefties here would read it ... by ER 2011-09-11 05:04:05
- No, I posted it to display a "media analyst" who floated the idea that a large portion of the population ... by TB 2011-09-11 08:13:06
  - TB, we have always lived in a society where not working was not only allowed, it was a sign of ... by ER 2011-09-11 08:28:39
    - Ten foot pole. You know damn well the author was not talking about dependents. Or successful investors. by TB 2011-09-11 11:14:12
      - Let me tell you about my ten foot pole. I do not mind saluting the flag, or saying the ... by ER 2011-09-11 12:27:46
Heading down to the Art and Wine festival. Later! by TB 2011-09-10 14:28:06
This guy goes in a different direction with Rushkoff's essay: Increasingly, perhaps, a job is something that we each have to ... by TB 2011-09-10 13:12:42
- The man makes some good points, although I have difficulty seeing how they can actually be realized in practice. ... by ER 2011-09-10 13:57:27
  - His job right now is a blogger. Blogging as a job didn't exist until a few years ago. ... by TB 2011-09-10 14:19:37
    - I can see by your outfit, that you are a blogger. You can see by my outfit, that I blog too. We can ... by ER 2011-09-11 05:23:49
  - PS. Referring to your comment "...the idea of a particular job as a lifelong entitlement." That is not necessarily ... by ER 2011-09-10 14:16:13
One of the problems with the essay is it makes the mistake, common nowadays, of thinking of a "job" as ... by TB 2011-09-10 11:47:18
Moved to Flame. by ER 2011-09-10 09:27:02
- Why thank you ER...I was a candy striper...do you need to use the bedpan? ...there is more to the concept of ... by Jody 2011-09-10 09:39:39
  - Sorry, I tried to move my post to Flame (before you finished responding) and lost all the text. Fortunately, ... by ER 2011-09-10 09:46:20
- I simply can not wrap my brain around work not being jobs...and jobs not being work. They are one in the ... by Jody 2011-09-10 09:35:48
  - That's because you think of work as wage slavery: Something unpleasant you begrudgingly do because you have to eat, ... by ER 2011-09-10 12:53:06
    - Not all jobs are drudgery, although some always will be. Craftsmen still earn their way in many, many fields. Heck, ... by TB 2011-09-10 13:45:15
      - EDITED:So why aren't you working for Google, or starting your own Google? C'mon Tom. If making sandals and running a ... by ER 2011-09-10 14:31:01
        
        The system will work again when we no longer have a government in power that believes that the private sector ... by TB 2011-09-10 18:57:07
        
        Conservative freedom rhetoric doesn't fool anyone. Every single policy consideration they propose is one that will benefit them immediately, and ... by ER 2011-09-11 04:26:16
        
        My statement still stands, a simple one that had no outrage in it. People are learning who the thugs are. by TB 2011-09-11 11:19:20
        
        I tried. Several times. I didn't make it. That's called "reality." by TB 2011-09-10 14:38:14
"Please convince me that we’re living in the best of all possible worlds under capitalism." I can't. The responses to ... by TB 2011-09-09 19:27:57
- Define "impossible". by Robert 2011-09-10 10:46:36
  - Rushkoff is wrong. Dead wrong. I won't even mention his ignorance of history. There is no "America" producing goods ... by TB 2011-09-10 11:33:05
  - I don't understand Rushkoff. He wrote a book "Program or be Programmed". To me I took this as being pro ... by Jody 2011-09-10 10:51:17
    - I wouldn't infer acquiescence from somebody speaking up about a problem. And I don't really see how reexamining the structure ... by Robert 2011-09-10 11:21:05
      - I haven't read all the background comprising this thread but I will say that the idea of food and shelter ... by FrankC 2011-09-11 15:09:38
      - Believe it or not, I have some sympathy for the argument, but it's mostly left wing Utopian baloney. This guy makes ... by Jody 2011-09-10 18:06:16
        
        You forgot the one about liberals eating their children. by Robert 2011-09-10 18:20:17
        
        No, that's not how you respond to a "smear." Your response should be "no, Jody, the Left is very ... by TB 2011-09-10 19:01:26
        
        No, that is exactly how I respond to a smear. by Robert 2011-09-10 20:31:43
        
        I am sorry you are disappointed in what I said Robert. I am not. It feels strangely cathartic. by Jody 2011-09-11 14:11:55
        
        "Cathartic" means using other people as punching bags. That's really nothing to be proud of. by Robert 2011-09-12 08:46:29
        
        Robert...I was on a soap box about Liberals in general. It was not directed at you personally. Next time I ... by Jody 2011-09-12 10:45:55
        
        WARNING!!!! Jody is in *A* mode.....Robert....just thinking...why the hell does everybody else get to mud sling...and the minute I do ... by Jody 2011-09-12 12:23:49
        
        I'm sorry, where did Jody "punch" you or anyone else on this board personally? Read her post again. Think hard ... by TB 2011-09-12 09:46:46
        
        In short, you got nothing. Want to go into a tally of smears and empty insults? by TB 2011-09-11 11:04:39
      - Which "better one" would that be? And how have identical ideas worked in the past? by TB 2011-09-10 11:34:33
        
        Straw men, TB. by Robert 2011-09-10 13:54:29
        
        Of course he doesn't propose anything specific. He can't. Neither can anyone else. The whole concept has ... by TB 2011-09-10 14:11:00
        
        Tom, you talk as if Capitalism was born perfectly formed, and that it has been consistently degraded by Socialist intervention ... by ER 2011-09-10 12:03:18
        
        As with most things you "credit" me with, I've never said anything of the sort. I should have stuck to my ... by TB 2011-09-10 12:15:28
        
        Well, thanks anyway for bringing up the Rushkoff essay. He developed in a disciplined, systematic way, a lot of ... by ER 2011-09-10 12:43:35
- You don't need proof because you have already decided on the truth. You're just wrong Tom. Your beliefs are more ... by ER 2011-09-10 07:07:28
  - This from the guy who constantly lectures my on my "arrogance." Two points: A definition that can mean anything you ... by TB 2011-09-10 09:49:24
    - One point: A definition is just a mental exercise, it need not have any referent in reality. Just because ... by ER 2011-09-10 09:55:03
      - And there you have the essence of "debate" here. by TB 2011-09-10 10:02:57
        
        TB, you will note I am not promoting any particular political or economic philosophy, I never have. I am merely ... by ER 2011-09-10 10:22:16
        
        An exercise for those interested: Put each of those sentences on its own line and think about it for a few ... by TB 2011-09-10 10:34:14
        
        Sure, anything taken out of context makes little or no sense, or is subject to misinterpretation. That's another shabby debating tactic. Tom, ... by ER 2011-09-10 11:02:07
- Some jobs are becoming obsolete, to be sure. But my thought is that because of technology, jobs are being created. Hasn't ... by Jody 2011-09-09 19:45:13
  - The point the essay tries to make is that our whole economy is based on the industrial model of employers ... by Robert 2011-09-10 11:03:12
  - What they're talking about is the idea of a "job" being obsolete. by TB 2011-09-09 19:58:25
  - Ooops...meant to be under Robert's post. by Jody 2011-09-09 19:45:50

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