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Tornado protection: Storm rooms by TB June 4, 2011 1:41 pm

I want one. I just have to figure out where to put it. I could actually make a ... by Eri 2011-06-04 19:07:24
- One problem is it has to be mounted directly onto a concrete slab. This is probably why a lot ... by TB 2011-06-04 19:17:22
  - Actually, that's perfect for me. My house is built on a concrete slab so all they'd have to do ... by Eri 2011-06-04 22:45:28
    - It just has to be big enough to hold you and your cats, like the lady in the article. ... by TB 2011-06-05 14:13:54
      - Remember to glue down some carpet for the cats to hold onto (I recommend a good contact cement). And 2 litter ... by mcfly 2011-06-06 12:20:26

Germany prepares to commit energy suicide by TB June 4, 2011 12:12 pm

I love it. Nice to see other countries taking the risk instead of insisting we go first. by FrankC 2011-06-05 12:28:24
Switzerland just followed Germany's lead today. by ER 2011-06-05 07:38:53
- I work for the American branch of a Swiss-based company. Don't ever worry about the Swiss doing something that would ... by mcfly 2011-06-05 15:07:32
- Switzerland seems to be phasing out slowly, not building new reactors but not shutting down the five existing ones that ... by TB 2011-06-05 13:09:06
Since when is purchasing a commodity "sponging off?" by mcfly 2011-06-05 00:33:12
- Good point. Not the best term I could have used. Maybe "hypocritical" applies more to anti-nukes who don't ... by TB 2011-06-05 13:11:28
  - I getcha. Don't misunderstand, I'm for nuclear power generation (except in Iran). I hope we persue it vigorously. But if ... by mcfly 2011-06-05 15:03:51
    - I'm all for many solutions being sought in many ways. It just seems like the ones who make the ... by TB 2011-06-05 15:18:57
How f***ing hypocritical..... Inglorious Bastards don't want to spend their own time, effort, money, and public morale on their own energy-forever ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-04 19:58:09
- Thanks to its many nuclear power plants, France already exports excess electricity to countries like Britain, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, ... by TB 2011-06-04 21:10:13
  - Dammit.... I wonder what the French public's opinion on nuclear energy is.... 'cause seriously, that's a sweet set up right there. ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-05 08:30:45
    - Here's a good article on French nuclear power attitudes. It's part of an informative Frontline site. It's worth browsing through ... by TB 2011-06-05 12:37:14

Got the SOB! by Eri June 4, 2011 9:56 am

Plus the fact that these things can be mass-produced. Taking one of them out isn't really a victory ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-04 17:57:40
- Maybe we need to take out the factories where they're mass produced. (The Mosques or at least the Imams ... by Eri 2011-06-04 19:08:52
  - No, no, no...you guys have it all wrong. Have we learned nothing from Bomber Harris? Structures, like factories or mosques, can ... by mcfly 2011-06-05 00:45:48
  - Bad Eri! BAD! Hellfire armed Predators are not the answer to that! This is what Navy SEALs are for! XD by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-04 20:01:09
    - I know! They need to take them out with Mosquitos! by Eri 2011-06-05 07:11:40
The last few years have been hell on Al-Quaeda in Pakistan. These drone attacks must be taking their toll, and ... by ER 2011-06-04 12:08:24
Invisible death from the sky. An added plus has to be the continuous dread the terrorists have to live under. ... by TB 2011-06-04 10:38:14
- "Hey did you hear about Abdulla?" "What about him?" "He got martyred. I saw it. He got really seriously martyred." "Did you bring ... by mcfly 2011-06-05 15:24:05

Can you believe her ignorance? by Eri June 3, 2011 10:23 pm

She's not as ignorant as you might think. The Palins of this world know exactly what they are doing. They're just ... by ER 2011-06-05 05:40:54
- Apparently you missed how the current president got elected. Just shut off your brain, ignore the reality of the ... by TB 2011-06-05 12:56:40
  - Really? You're making this accusation? "Anyway, since your philosophical definition of “evil” seems to be “things ER doesn’t like,” I’m not ... by mcfly 2011-06-05 15:27:35
    - Explain. by TB 2011-06-05 15:36:05
      - You've put your conclusions on a pedestal. They're not to be touched. Supporting evidence is enshrined, detracting evidence is dismissed ... by mcfly 2011-06-06 11:34:48
        
        Have you ever seen me reject actual facts or real detracting evidence? Just because I don't like them? "Consistency" means ... by TB 2011-06-06 11:42:36
        
        It's probably obvious that I can't claim to agree. Frankly, I think that if your ideas don't collide in the real ... by mcfly 2011-06-06 12:11:22
  - Sure, Tom. I shoulda voted for a guy who's first presidential decision was picking Palin as his running mate? And ... by ER 2011-06-05 15:15:15
    - I don't know. Did you vote for the guy who picked Biden as his running mate? I could ... by TB 2011-06-05 15:30:06
      - For reasons of space, my reply is above, filed under "Fundamental Ideas and Philosophy". by ER 2011-06-05 17:08:08
- I am sorry you perceive them as evil. I personally don't feel they are but that is my point of view. Obnoxious ... by Jody 2011-06-05 08:59:32
  - You ought to hear what her friends say about me. by ER 2011-06-05 12:18:37
    - Dammit ER!!!!! LOL! by Jody 2011-06-05 13:18:05
Palin's ignorance of history isn't really the issue here. The issue is the way she gleefully, publically and obliviously demonstrates that ... by mcfly 2011-06-05 01:07:13
You folks would have a hay day with my recollection of historical events!...It is a lot like my spelling...I may ... by Jody 2011-06-04 12:13:10
- Yes, but dear, you're not running for public office. If you were, and you made a fool of yourself, ... by Eri 2011-06-05 07:15:32
Just for fun, here's Revere's own account of his ride. by TB 2011-06-04 09:58:33
- Very interesting to read. Thanks for posting. by Eri 2011-06-04 10:15:48
A year of Palin's policy statements, and this is the best hit they've got? Anyone thinking of running for President should ... by TB 2011-06-04 08:15:55
- There is no such thing as "fundamental errors in his entire ideology". First, you have defined WHAT his ideology ... by ER 2011-06-04 09:06:02
  - Really? Then you wouldn't mind a Republican president next time around since ideas and ideology aren't "right" or "wrong," ... by TB 2011-06-04 09:14:38
    - Cmon TB, you know that's not what ER said. by mcfly 2011-06-04 09:44:46
      - Go read it again. Tell me what he did say. by TB 2011-06-04 09:59:31
        
        Hell, do you own leg work. You read it again, and show me where he says all ideologies are the ... by mcfly 2011-06-05 00:52:00
      - That's called "reframing", a favorite conservative rhetorical maneuver. He dilutes the milk with water, and when you find the ... by ER 2011-06-04 09:48:47
    - I never said there was no right or wrong. I just think that's a decision that must be made ... by ER 2011-06-04 09:24:53
...... Why did I know it'd be Sarah Palin before I clicked on the link? by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-03 23:54:07
- Sarah is like a child, she should be seen and not heard. by ER 2011-06-04 05:55:41
  - And like a 2nd Lieutenant, can be given guns or ammo, but never both. by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-04 18:01:10
    - In the AF, they used to call them Greenies. Now, a Greenie is a cat treat. Which is actually about ... by Eri 2011-06-04 19:12:37

Adventures of the Charity Police by TB June 3, 2011 7:58 pm

As always, there may be more to this story than meets the eye. To begin with, the activist group ... by ER 2011-06-04 05:30:54
- Oh, it's fairly obvious that the group is deliberately provoking a legal response, much the same way as protestors have ... by TB 2011-06-04 08:24:26
  - Then again, maybe they're just shameless opportunists who have seized upon a legitimate cause in order legitimize their own agenda. ... by ER 2011-06-04 08:52:30
    - The real charitable efforts don't make the newspapers much. My son volunteers at a food bank now and then. ... by TB 2011-06-04 09:17:00
      - Matt. 6:1-4. Good for him. Real philanthropists do not brag about their good works. by ER 2011-06-04 09:35:34
Jesus *Random Sexual Expletive* Nice coincidence that I read a certain quote today: "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-03 23:57:41
- "The poor have to labour in the face of the majestic equality of the law, which forbids the rich as ... by ER 2011-06-04 05:39:38

Official recovery is two years old this month. by TB June 3, 2011 7:55 pm

Piggies (J Lennon P McCartney) Have you seen the little piggies Crawling in the dirt? And for all the little piggies Life is getting ... by ER 2011-06-04 05:52:59
- Do we all remember that Lennon and McCartney are (or were) richer than Croesus? McCartney's wealth has been lovingly detailed in ... by TB 2011-06-04 08:28:11
  - That really steams you doesn't it? Isn't that what U Peeple call "Class traitors"? Or is it just that rich or ... by ER 2011-06-04 09:44:31
    - Nah. Nothing that profound. Just pointing out people who live in mansions who make money singing about those ... by TB 2011-06-04 10:47:14
      - I agree with you TB...hypocrisy on such a basic level. by Jody 2011-06-04 12:16:14
Funny.... I thought we had just started our economic return a couple of months ago. by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-03 23:58:22
- The National Bureau of Economic Research, which seems to be the go-to place for deciding when recessions start and end, ... by TB 2011-06-04 08:40:20
  - I've often wondered about that. I guess the official definition of recession does not take unemployment into account. by ER 2011-06-04 09:09:47
    - I don't know what their exact methodology is. They discuss it a little here. by TB 2011-06-04 10:50:03

54,000 new jobs. Half of them hamburger flippers? by TB June 3, 2011 2:46 pm

Ten bucks says these same people lose their jobs before the year is out. by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-03 18:26:32
- McDonalds does have a very high turnover rate, but not from losing jobs. It's from people finding better ones. ... by TB 2011-06-04 08:31:08
  - The traditional entry-level job for young men when I was in my late teens and early twenties was construction (if ... by ER 2011-06-04 09:18:04
    - Out in the midwest, at least in the small town where I lived, entry-level was agricultural grunt work. I ... by TB 2011-06-04 09:30:15
      - Bingo. Government policies may play some role, especially in the short term, but in general, our economic problems are ... by ER 2011-06-04 10:04:38
        
        I still have a lot of confidence in people's ability to create new industries and jobs. While a lot ... by TB 2011-06-04 10:20:04
        
        Yes, as soon as us old farts hurry up and die off so all the young dudes can take over. ... by ER 2011-06-04 11:19:08
        
        U.S. fertility peaked in 1957. A lot of what we're seeing now may be due to immigration and descendants ... by TB 2011-06-04 11:52:45
- The carbon units are interchangeable, replaceable and disposable. Welcome to the Machine. by ER 2011-06-04 05:48:23

The coming Age of Fossil Fuels? by TB June 3, 2011 2:23 pm

Shell to begin construction of Prelude floating liquefied natural gas facility by TB June 2, 2011 8:08 pm

How to handle natural gas from offshore rigs has alway been a huge problem. Look at a picture of ... by podrock 2011-06-03 17:50:06
- I think rising worldwide demand for energy is a more important driver right now than scarcity of the resources themselves. ... by TB 2011-06-03 18:30:17
Lets just hope they "invest" a little more in safety procedures and emergency planning than BP did in Macondo. ... by ER 2011-06-03 06:44:16
- "Only an adversarial system of government regulation can strike the right balance." We had a system exactly like that when the ... by TB 2011-06-03 08:15:15
  - Royal Dutch Shell is not an American company, that device will not be anchored in American waters, I doubt if ... by ER 2011-06-03 09:01:28
    - I've been tracking these things, although someone like Podrock probably has his finger closer to the pulse than I do. You ... by TB 2011-06-03 13:04:11
      - Normally, I'd be tempted to just take your word for it, but you seem so breathlessly desperate to bring this ... by ER 2011-06-03 13:30:01
Look at all that beautiful blue water. Does it belong to Shell too? by mcfly 2011-06-02 20:37:27
- Ignore that reply. I'd have deleted it but that option isn't presenting itself. by mcfly 2011-06-03 04:38:12
  - Don't delete but if you ever do need to delete, click on Edit and then at the right hand side ... by Eri 2011-06-03 06:03:17
    - I don't have an "edit" to click on, or a window to throw it out of. ARRGGGHHH! by ER 2011-06-03 06:46:07
      - Refresh once or twice after publishing a post or comment. I find my "edit" doesn't appear until I've done ... by TB 2011-06-03 08:16:09
        
        I only get edit capability when I initiate the thread. And then I get it on all posts in the thread. ... by ER 2011-06-03 09:05:14
        
        ER, TB is right. After you post a reply 0comment), go up and click on the forum heading (Current ... by Eri 2011-06-03 10:32:49
        
        OK, i'll try it right now. by ER 2011-06-03 12:26:42
        
        OK, I did just what you said and nothing happened. All I have is a [Reply] button, but no [Edit] button. However, ... by ER 2011-06-03 12:33:34
        
        ER's observations are exactly what our testuser Rita experiences with permission settings at the author level. by podrock 2011-06-03 12:44:26
        
        ARRGGGHHHH! by ER 2011-06-03 13:46:05
        
        Poor ER. :( If you smile real pretty at Pod and/or Robert, maybe they can give you the ... by Eri 2011-06-03 16:38:29
        
        I completely agree by podrock 2011-06-03 17:29:46
        
        THE RIGHT TO EDIT. Man, does that sound ponderous, or what? Actually, it's not worth a great big ... by ER 2011-06-03 18:24:42
        
        Piece O'Cake. So simple I can do it. And I agree, it sounds ponderous. The survivors of the ... by podrock 2011-06-03 18:47:49
        
        If you need something major moved or corrected, or a link done, I can help. I'm not going to ... by TB 2011-06-03 18:31:35

Arab spring, huh? by mcfly June 2, 2011 4:01 pm

Please don't take this as an endorsement, or criticism, of any religion, because I think they are all equally screwy. ... by ER 2011-06-02 18:08:44
- I get what you're saying, but in retrospect my initial post is far to self-satisfied, and terribly unfair to those ... by mcfly 2011-06-02 20:32:58
- You're just now figuring that out? :-) by Eri 2011-06-02 19:21:53

Adventures of the Rabbit Police by TB June 2, 2011 2:35 pm

Fracking jerks! (The USDA) Hell, they're so incompetent, they can't even keep grocery stores from serving half raw ... by Eri 2011-06-02 19:28:59
- If we had real freedom, with no meddling gov regulation, businesses that sold deadly products would suffer in the free ... by ER 2011-06-03 04:57:39
  - Infinite regulation and control produces perfect safety. Look at how safe and clean those places are in this world ... by TB 2011-06-03 08:24:00
    - You say I want "infinite" regulation, I say you want "no" regulation. The truth is clearly somewhere in between, but ... by ER 2011-06-03 09:12:21
      - I think one thing is fairly certain: a quarter-inch size discrepancy in a rabbit cage has jack shit to ... by TB 2011-06-03 13:16:53
        
        The reason all those regulations are so chicken-shit (to borrow a time-honored military term for a pointless and overly detailed ... by ER 2011-06-03 13:41:29
        
        Yeah, these rabbit sellers were obviously out to take their customers to the cleaners. Like all farmers and businessmen ... by TB 2011-06-03 14:24:41
        
        Not me. But my mother spent her whole life working her guts out for those bastards. by ER 2011-06-03 15:20:03
        
        Which bastards? Seriously, I don't get it. I've been unhappy now and then with dealings I've had in ... by TB 2011-06-03 15:49:15
        
        You have to blame somebody for why your life hasn't worked out the way you once fantasized. And I ... by ER 2011-06-03 19:15:46
        
        EDITED: (I think I misread your post, so I scrapped my first paragraphs.) You've never met a statist because you've ... by TB 2011-06-03 19:49:08
        
        Statists are your bogeymen, not mine. I deal with people I trade with all the time, and I deal with people ... by ER 2011-06-03 21:10:49
  - I wonder if I took a .22 and went in and shot all their roasted chickens, they'd get the idea? Probably ... by Eri 2011-06-03 06:05:10

Vatican Church sued for child molestation by Vitruvius June 1, 2011 11:20 am

The crime is one very big thing, the cover-up and protection of perpetrators is another really big thing. It is as ... by podrock 2011-06-02 19:52:02
I think it's a good thing. As a Catholic, I'm disgusted by the actions, or usually INaction, of the ... by Eri 2011-06-01 21:47:30
What is wrong with the Catholic clergy, and what is wrong with the hierarchy? I know that in any ... by ER 2011-06-01 13:04:02
- It is a problem that has plagued man forever. Please understand that I may come across crude about this subject. ... by Jody 2011-06-01 17:40:38
  - I understand your anger, Jody, but I think this issue goes a lot deeper than just male lust. Most ... by ER 2011-06-01 17:57:46
    - This has gone on since the beginning of time. I think that people are finally just speaking up. Remember a lot ... by Jody 2011-06-02 06:19:35
      - If he "refuses to acknowlege" he was sexually abused, how did you find out he was? Maybe he was ... by ER 2011-06-02 12:45:44
        
        ER says ..."And we still don’t know if the pedophilia is caused by celibacy, or if celibacy attracts pedophiles." ...and ER ... by Jody 2011-06-02 18:37:35
        
        Good observation, but are you are saying that pedophilia and homosexuality are the same sort of thing? by podrock 2011-06-02 20:09:54
        
        Nope. To be honest...I have had relationships with both. The pedophile never *acted* on his impulses...but I was afraid on so ... by Jody 2011-06-02 22:12:14
        
        You noticed that too? A heck of a lot of random assumptions and imprecise definitions being tossed around here. Some ... by TB 2011-06-02 19:26:23
        
        I'm not making random assumptions or imprecise definitions. In essence, I'm asking the questions. Does the church (being celibate) tend ... by ER 2011-06-03 06:13:00
        
        Just one small point: You're right that statistics are hard to come by, but from what I've gathered so far it ... by TB 2011-06-03 08:29:58
        
        Because of the structure of church services, and the role of priests in the liturgy, the opportunities for these crimes ... by ER 2011-06-03 09:21:03
        
        Only my observations lead me to the conclusions I have drawn. For some pedophiles, they are emotionally retarded adults. They fantasize ... by Jody 2011-06-03 07:05:02
        
        And thus this debate enters the realm of Freud. Maybe Jung, but I'd like to think Freud due to ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-02 16:40:05
        
        No one expects you to apologize. They are your beliefs and most of them I agree with. I ... by Eri 2011-06-02 19:42:55
        
        You're preaching to the choir, VB. Personally, all religions are rather sketchy as far as I'm concerned, and all the monotheistic ... by ER 2011-06-02 18:00:34
        
        Actually, ML seemed to be a pretty good guy. HE saw the shortcomings of the Catholic Church, and protested ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-02 21:46:35
        
        ML's criticism of the RC in those days were certainly justified, but the man was also a notorious antisemite and ... by ER 2011-06-03 04:49:09

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