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I got yer budget deal right here... by TB July 24, 2011 9:42 am
  • By the way, did everyone see my "Revenues and Tax Rates" post? by TB 2011-07-24 09:47:38
    • I'm curious...do you see your own posts as "the end of the discussion" as often as you seem to suggest? by mcfly 2011-07-24 21:39:27
      • "End of the discussion?" Are you kidding? It's all I can do to keep an actual discussion going around ... by TB 2011-07-25 09:38:19
        • Nah, I'm probably just not reading you right. by mcfly 2011-07-25 10:47:53
    The difference between a Republican and a Democrat by Jody July 23, 2011 3:34 pm
    • Spare us the sanctimonious history lesson, TB, Conservatives don't give a fig about anything but keeping taxes low and profits ... by ER 2011-07-24 10:04:03
      • Well, we certainly don't want low taxes and high profits in this country, do we? Which "millionaire tax cut" would that ... by TB 2011-07-24 11:44:16
        • The median household income in this country is about 50 grand a year. If your family makes that much, ... by ER 2011-07-24 12:50:45
          • You're going "serpentine" on me again. I suggested reading my post on revenues and tax rates. Have you? We're ... by TB 2011-07-24 13:08:34
            • Sorry, comrade, I can't "afford" to read your analysis. As far as I'm concerned, as long as your party ... by ER 2011-07-24 13:13:19
              • Okay, that's cool. by TB 2011-07-24 13:14:44
        • Above post improperly placed. But you get the general idea. I have nothing against Sen Dirksen, in fact, I ... by ER 2011-07-24 10:30:19
        • Nothing much new under the sun. When that film was shot (1967 - 1968) the Federal budget (in constant 2005 dollars) ... by TB 2011-07-23 16:27:49
          • I love his simplicity. His bottom line earthiness. I remember my husband teaching the children about cards..."There are red cards and ... by Jody 2011-07-23 17:40:46
            • I think I finally understand where conservatives are coming from: Republicans are smart, noble and righteous, and Democrats are stupid, mean ... by ER 2011-07-24 08:55:10
              • Interesting. Neither Dirksen nor Jody made any value judgments of the kind you describe. Dirksen simply pointed out Democratic ideas ... by TB 2011-07-24 09:11:00
                • I think what I pointed out was pretty simple and obvious too. by ER 2011-07-24 09:21:31
                  • Not really. You didn't point it out, you made it up. I thought the Dirksen film was quite significant. ... by TB 2011-07-24 09:43:32
          Plan 9 from DNC by TB July 18, 2011 1:53 pm
          • What kind of pathetic sour grapes crap is this, TB? Surely you can do better than that? So ... by ER 2011-07-22 08:39:58
            • Glad to see you again. Check out some more of my posts on Current Events and get back to ... by TB 2011-07-22 09:07:39
              • So now we need to blame Obama for extending the Bush Tax Cuts. My God, you are a piece of ... by ER 2011-07-22 09:29:55
                • You miss the point. This is the same Obama who is now insisting that there is no workable plan ... by TB 2011-07-22 09:34:14
                  • 19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit by mcfly 2011-07-22 13:01:06
                    • Not surprised. The media has been hammering out like two polls a day to support the Democratic premise. If you ... by TB 2011-07-22 14:57:17
                      • You like the media when it appears to support you and dismiss it when it doesn't. Gets a bit old. by mcfly 2011-07-22 21:23:34
                        • It's kind of like Republican pollsters who call up with skewed questions. I give them an answer they don't ... by Eri 2011-07-23 20:01:17
                          • Heh. I have yet to get a phone poll call from ANY source or party that was not obviously ... by TB 2011-07-23 20:10:00
            Blaming it on the Tea Party by TB July 16, 2011 12:04 pm
              The end of the "Trust Fund" myth by TB July 14, 2011 1:37 pm
              • Oh this is not good. This is not good at all. Life vest anyone? by Jody 2011-07-16 07:17:45
                • I did know that. As soon I began reading the article (and before it had time to say so), ... by Eri 2011-07-14 21:17:49
                  • The entire cost of the Iraq War since the beginning would pay for Social Security alone for about one year. The ... by TB 2011-07-15 08:38:13
                    • As usual, you're full of shit. BFD re: these two wars. Before that there was the Cold War ... by Eri 2011-07-15 22:05:56
                      • Okay. Vietnam cost about $686 billion in 2008 dollars. Korean War? A little less than $600 billion in 2008 ... by TB 2011-07-15 22:49:05
                        • Wouldn't the "bridge to nowhere" be considered a shovel ready project? by Lee 2011-07-16 08:34:30
                          • You're too illogical for words to describe. What part of the word, "ENTITLEMENTS" do you not understand? Until ... by Eri 2011-07-16 04:06:31
                            • The money isn't there, Eri. It hasn't been there for decades. It was "taken over" a long time ... by TB 2011-07-16 09:29:15
                              • That's what I said earlier. The government stole the fucking funds. What they stole must be returned. ... by Eri 2011-07-16 14:14:16
                                • Eri, they've been stealing those funds from day one. Back when Social Security was first set up, the retirement ... by Lee 2011-07-17 12:12:55
                                  • By and large I am a fiscal conservative for this very reason. If I am going down I want it ... by Jody 2011-07-16 16:04:56
                                    • I've got a rude awakening for you. Go look at your Social Security statement. It says, basically, that ... by TB 2011-07-16 15:53:27
                                      • More than you really want to know about this by TB 2011-07-16 16:05:25
                                      • It's being spent to pay the interest on all of that money you want the government to keep borrowing. by Lee 2011-07-16 14:55:24
                                    • Please expound Eri...I don't know where you are going with this... by Jody 2011-07-16 08:12:31
                                      • Out of MY salary or when I was self-employed, I paid FICA into Uncle Sam. That is Social Security; ... by Eri 2011-07-16 14:19:30
                                        • "For some reason, idiot Republicans think they can just nullify the law that forced us to put money into the ... by TB 2011-07-16 15:57:24
                            Hymn to the Chosen One by TB July 13, 2011 7:18 pm
                            • It's a well-reasoned piece and is, IMO, quite accurate. Obama IS all those things at the same time. ... by Eri 2011-07-14 21:29:09
                              • Obama has no fixed ideas or principles other than the usual liberal academic belief in the State as an absolute ... by TB 2011-07-15 08:40:58
                                • People like Barack Obama and Rick Perry have very specific sets of beliefs, consistent with a long, easily-traced history and ... by mcfly 2011-07-15 10:45:39
                                  • In the interests of nearly-full disclosure, the post above is a quote from one of our own. by mcfly 2011-07-15 16:13:46
                                    • Okay, ya got me. I didn't put it well. Obama is a hard-line academic leftist trying to pretend to many ... by TB 2011-07-15 17:57:08
                                      • LOL, as "gotchas" go, it's pretty tame. I was mostly just wondering if you'd bother addressing it. If I had a ... by mcfly 2011-07-15 21:09:26
                                    • You mean like Jeremiah Wright? Obama hung out with him for 20 years. by Lee 2011-07-15 14:41:10
                                Score another underhanded GOP operation by Eri July 13, 2011 12:51 am
                                • Just listen to those crickets! by mcfly 2011-07-14 10:45:07
                                  • Count your blessings. by TB 2011-07-14 10:53:44
                                    • "Silent but Deadly" is not a debating tactic. If you've got something that sheds more light on this, I'm all ears. ... by mcfly 2011-07-14 11:33:50
                                      • Start here. Is that an "underhanded operation" too? If not, why not? Didn't work for them either. As I have ... by TB 2011-07-14 13:33:36
                                        • That's so often the extent of your comments: "They did it too!" as Davin used to write. Do you have any ... by mcfly 2011-07-14 22:03:32
                                          • Did you have any comments on the 2010 incidents at the time? I doubt you missed them entirely. ... by TB 2011-07-15 08:25:09
                                            • Pointing out underhanded and dishonest behavior does not constitute a "lecture." Do you suggest that such things simply be allowed to ... by mcfly 2011-07-15 08:37:16
                                          • Of course, when Republicans lose, it's for no particular reason other than an uneducated electorate. by Eri 2011-07-14 21:31:45
                                            • Case in point. You've scrubbed the 2010 election out of your mind as thoroughly as the Democratic leadership in ... by TB 2011-07-15 08:28:41
                                    Bachmann’s claims ‘false’ more often than any other politician by mcfly July 10, 2011 7:25 pm
                                    • Obviously the order has gone out to the myrmidons to go after Bachmann. Did I miss something? Did ... by TB 2011-07-10 21:22:58
                                      • Yeah, she won the "Liar, liar, pants of fire" poll. by Eri 2011-07-13 00:00:08
                                        • LOL TB, it's just me, not some VLWC. But thanks for the awesome display of paranoid wing nut fear and ... by mcfly 2011-07-11 06:34:43
                                          • I was thinking of the media, actually, not you. I didn't word it well. You're not the only source I'm ... by TB 2011-07-11 08:35:44
                                            • I'm not the only source? Hey guys! I think we've found TB's problem... by mcfly 2011-07-11 19:21:32
                                          • Bachmann represents the worst in American politics, not because of her opinions on how government should be administered, but because ... by ER 2011-07-11 04:37:39
                                          • I cannot imagine the USA putting someone in the office of President who was a creationist. I think I ... by ER 2011-07-10 21:02:17
                                            • Bachman's Greatest Boehners (thnks ER). Here by mcfly 2011-07-10 20:40:25
                                              • Lies, damn lies, and Michele Bachmann stats. Here's why she won the coveted "Pants on Fire" Award. by mcfly 2011-07-10 20:25:10
                                                Michelle Bachmann, graduate of Palin U. by mcfly July 10, 2011 12:35 pm
                                                • Land of the Free, Home of the Slave. Even today, apparently, some Americans just can't come to terms with their ... by mcfly 2011-07-10 19:49:18
                                                  • I vote we reinstate slavery. We'll hold sales all over the United States. Anyone who wants to own ... by Eri 2011-07-13 00:09:54
                                                  • Abraham Lincoln had a lot to say about the founders' views on slavery. Look it up. Cooper is also ignorant ... by TB 2011-07-10 14:06:19
                                                    • Lincoln was very ignorant about blacks...he perceived them as sub par to whites. by Jody 2011-07-10 18:22:18
                                                      • Was he really? Seems like most of the demographic stats have proven him right. by Lee 2011-07-11 15:52:06
                                                        • Not helping, Lee. by TB 2011-07-11 19:08:15
                                                          • I know. I'm in an aggravating mood today. Sometimes I just like to push buttons. =) by Lee 2011-07-11 21:55:02
                                                        • I particularly object to the NEW position which the avowed principle of this Nebraska law gives to slavery in the ... by TB 2011-07-10 18:41:37
                                                          • Tom...please help me. I am not the brightest bulb in the box....what is being *said* here? by Jody 2011-07-11 20:26:53
                                                            • Believe me, I had to read it slowly too. Like I said, amazing what they expected the voters to ... by TB 2011-07-11 20:48:23
                                                      Boehner to America by mcfly July 10, 2011 9:28 am
                                                      • Now, put down the index card, and look at what's actually going on. The Republicans are being pulled into another "read ... by TB 2011-07-10 10:37:27
                                                        • I agree its a trap, but I think you're mistaken about the details. The Dems know that no matter what is ... by ER 2011-07-10 11:20:46
                                                          • You're making a couple of fundamental errors. Number one, government spending is not a synonym for economic growth. Particularly when ... by TB 2011-07-10 11:59:04
                                                            • Sure Tom. Give 'em their tax bonanza and watch 'em go out and start hiring. by ER 2011-07-10 15:35:32
                                                              • So you really think that spending nonexistant money will stimulate the economy? I am being very serious when I ... by Lee 2011-07-10 18:42:58
                                                                • Interesting. Show me the "tax bonanza" in my post. Be specific. And remember what the rates are ... by TB 2011-07-10 15:47:15
                                                          What's the most misleading thing you'll ever see? by mcfly July 8, 2011 6:12 pm
                                                          • The bad thing about a slow board, when a post is rude it sits there on page one forever. by FrankC 2011-07-09 15:19:14
                                                            • Wow Frank, my apologies if I've offended your sensibilities on the Flame board. That's the trouble with liberals though, isn't ... by mcfly 2011-07-09 18:44:04
                                                              • Hey,I'm fine. You don't have to be offended to recognize rudeness but I was concerned about your delicate sensibilities and ... by FrankC 2011-07-09 21:35:28
                                                                • I don't know. We've all known McFly long enough to figure out that he's the kind of person who ... by TB 2011-07-09 21:41:03
                                                                  • You are quite right. :) by FrankC 2011-07-09 21:50:00
                                                                • Might be a good time to go back on these boards and count how many times conservatives have been tagged ... by TB 2011-07-09 19:39:48
                                                                  • I don't have to go back and count, since I've been the one doing it. Just callin' 'em like I ... by mcfly 2011-07-10 05:59:36
                                                                    • There's quite a range between "firmly opposed to liberal ideas" and "Nazi." I refuse to accept that 2 + 2 = ... by TB 2011-07-10 09:18:43
                                                                      • There's quite a bit of distance between "Socialist" or "Statist" and "opposed to Libertarian ideas" too, but that never stopped ... by ER 2011-07-11 04:22:26
                                                                        • Incidentally, now that I think about it, look down this FLAME board and tell me who's doing a lot of ... by TB 2011-07-11 08:57:17
                                                                          • As for your vaunted logic, we’re sick and tired of having every bit of evidence we introduce here summarily dismissed ... by TB 2011-07-11 08:49:42
                                                                          • A perfect illustration of the problem. You refuse to discuss liberal ideas without the assumption that they're wrong, which really means ... by mcfly 2011-07-10 13:17:46
                                                                            • The assumption is usually a safe one, and I go after the data with a lot of confidence that it ... by TB 2011-07-10 14:11:06
                                                                              • That's it TB, start with a conclusion and then cherry-pick the "evidence" from Faux News. And you say you studied ... by mcfly 2011-07-10 20:42:44
                                                                                • Good God, did somebody pith you? You've got nothing lately. This isn't like you. Seriously. I don't watch Fox News. ... by TB 2011-07-10 21:20:31
                                                                                  • Yeah, I know. Sorry dude. by mcfly 2011-07-12 11:22:36
                                                                    • Hey, if you can't be rude on the Flame Board, what's the point? by TB 2011-07-09 15:24:16
                                                                    • Now, go into some detail. Are conservatives all mean and nasty? How is this expressed? How is ... by TB 2011-07-08 21:01:23
                                                                      • Are conservatives all mean and nasty? What a coincidence, I've been asking myself the same damn thing. by mcfly 2011-07-09 18:29:55
                                                                        • *snicker* ball is in your court mcfly... by Jody 2011-07-09 17:08:11
                                                                          • Personally, I think both parties are a bunch of num nuts, driving polarization to whole new levels. by Jody 2011-07-10 06:56:37
                                                                        Republican justice, Perry style by mcfly July 8, 2011 10:17 am
                                                                        • An early shot across the bow. Are the Democrats already nervous about Perry? by TB 2011-07-08 12:38:38
                                                                          • Besides, TB, if "shots across the bow" are the result of nervousness, then Obama's had conservatives peeing their pants since ... by mcfly 2011-07-08 13:52:48
                                                                            • I'm the one who posted it, not "the Democrats." by mcfly 2011-07-08 13:51:02
                                                                              • I was talking about the L. A. Times. How old is this case again? And the New Yorker ... by TB 2011-07-08 14:09:42
                                                                                • You tell me what makes this suddenly relevant. He's being pressed to run for president. Perhaps you hadn't heard. by mcfly 2011-07-08 18:06:01
                                                                            • The police definition for solving a crime is when someone has been arrested, not indicted or convicted. Police who ... by ER 2011-07-08 12:09:07
                                                                              • An oversight would be understandable, though tragic. But it appears that Rick "Hang 'Em High and Hang 'Em Innocent" Perry knew ... by mcfly 2011-07-08 14:02:43
                                                                                • I know nothing about the man, I've never heard him speak, or even read anything he's said, so this is ... by ER 2011-07-08 20:09:23
                                                                                  • I have read about him, heard things he's said and read about the results of some of his actions. ... by Eri 2011-07-08 21:08:48
                                                                                    • How many new jobs in Texas again? by TB 2011-07-08 21:14:48
                                                                                      • I see. You don't care how many people someone may kill, even if some are unjustly killed, as long ... by Eri 2011-07-13 00:17:09
                                                                                        • That's the perfect conservative response. You make it so easy to despise the right. by mcfly 2011-07-09 18:32:45
                                                                                          • Really? Look how Perry is being discussed. He's a "piece of shit." A "thug, a brute, a ... by TB 2011-07-09 19:36:53
                                                                                            • Well, Texas elected Georgie Porgie, too, and then you elected him President. Look how well THAT turned out. ... by Eri 2011-07-13 00:20:28
                                                                                              • Eri, it isn't working anymore. Not here, not anywhere. People have eyes, and a lot of them have ... by TB 2011-07-13 07:09:30
                                                                                                • TB...you once asked me who I wanted to see run for President. Perry is my choice. As time goes on ... by Jody 2011-07-13 09:02:36
                                                                                                  • I don't have an ideal candidate. In fact, I firmly believe political "heroes" are a bad idea in the ... by TB 2011-07-13 09:50:41
                                                                                                  • What is this so-called "brain" you speak of? Where can I get some? by mcfly 2011-07-13 08:23:59
                                                                                                • I never said he was a thug, Tom. I just said he looked like a thug. Of course, that might ... by ER 2011-07-10 15:37:22
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