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An essay on finance capital by ER October 3, 2012 6:42 am

Real capitalists. by SDAI-Tech 2012-10-03 17:39:23
In the first part you left out something. by alcaray 2012-10-03 12:09:07
- Google QE3, see what you think n/t by RobVG 2012-10-03 17:38:03
  - I think it does not have anything to do with the fact I related. by alcaray 2012-10-03 22:50:19
    - I thought you were talking about the Fed feeding money into the economy. by RobVG 2012-10-04 08:35:58
      - Well, it is a completely different tool. by alcaray 2012-10-04 11:56:23
        
        You have me confused for an antagonist. I'll leave you be... n/t by RobVG 2012-10-04 19:29:45
        
        I really wasn't trying to sound antagonistic. I am bewildered. by alcaray 2012-10-04 20:39:34
        
        No problem. Sometimes I just want to talk economics with someone. by RobVG 2012-10-05 09:14:19
        
        So you want to discuss QE, then. by alcaray 2012-10-05 13:45:25
        
        I know what you mean by Robert 2012-10-05 10:47:40
        
        I think it's all Tom's fault. by RobVG 2012-10-05 17:03:31
- It's turtles all the way down by Robert 2012-10-03 12:55:48
  - Yes, and Hamilton's thinking was dead wrong. by TB 2012-10-04 11:28:35
    - I have read the Founders, TB. I have read Hamilton, TB. And you, TB, are no Founder by Robert 2012-10-04 15:52:24
      - Talk to 16th century Spain for pointers on how trouble-free the gold standard is. (or the Hunt brothers) by alcaray 2012-10-05 11:06:05
      - Oh, sorry. by TB 2012-10-04 16:42:19
        
        Here's something interesting: by alcaray 2012-10-05 11:19:37
        
        Got my wheel barrow ready with cash...time to get a loaf of bread. ;) by Jody 2012-10-04 17:04:04
  - Once you go beyond the barter system, it's a natural progression that governments all over the world have felt their way through for many centuries. by alcaray 2012-10-03 13:41:12
- It had something to do with the Andrew Jackson Administration, didn't it?. by ER 2012-10-03 12:17:50
  - Honestly, I don't know. by alcaray 2012-10-03 12:23:58
Control and abuse by TB 2012-10-03 09:24:11
- Never have I seen you argue for regulation. by alcaray 2012-10-03 12:16:51
- Don't know much 'bout economee... by ER 2012-10-03 12:13:39
  - Someone needs to install a fusible link. n/t by RobVG 2012-10-04 19:43:17
  - It is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things. Henry David Thoreau by Jody 2012-10-04 02:55:07
  - Holy cripes, you went there. by alcaray 2012-10-03 12:18:42
A lot of truth but banks allow us to pay over time. We voluntarily enter into contract to finance houses and businesses. I wouldn't want save and wait 30 years to buy a house. n/t by RobVG 2012-10-03 07:52:30
- Another way to look at this that's closer to your pov. by RobVG 2012-10-03 08:05:34
  - You might want to look at the money you spent on rent. It should probably be added to the cost of the home with interest forgone. by RobVG 2012-10-03 08:41:15
    - I'm not vilifying anybody. by ER 2012-10-03 11:40:49
      - "Encouraging consumers to buy luxuries on credit..." is very good business. by alcaray 2012-10-03 12:31:08
        
        What's profitable isn't always ethical. by ER 2012-10-03 13:14:52
- Like I said, credit is not evil, it is just easily abused, by both borrower and lender. by ER 2012-10-03 07:56:53

What it boils down to. by bowser October 4, 2012 7:35 pm

The last four years of Bush were pretty good. by SDAI-Tech 2012-10-04 21:36:38
- Stole this too and put it on Facebook...gee...my friends will think I am awesome today. :) by Jody 2012-10-05 11:02:14
- Hanlon's Razor: by TB 2012-10-05 09:14:40
- Good to have you back. by bowser 2012-10-04 23:29:02

Humph. by RobVG September 20, 2012 8:39 pm

In my own observations...Romney *may* be able to wipe the floor with Obama because in the Republicans eyes Obama failed ... by Jody 2012-09-21 11:51:38
- Isolation by TB 2012-09-21 12:09:52
  - Your only counterpoint seems to be that the media is to blame. by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-21 12:33:35
    - When the media report Conservative ineptitude, it's the medias fault. by bowser 2012-09-21 16:12:04
      - Abu Ghraib would not have made daily headlines under a Democratic president. by TB 2012-09-21 16:27:23
        
        I'd like to propose a new rule by Robert 2012-09-24 15:58:50
        
        You mean like "things would have been much worse if Obama hadn't done what he'd done?" by TB 2012-09-24 16:13:37
        
        You are quite mistaken. by alcaray 2012-09-24 17:15:49
        
        Are you out of your mind? by alcaray 2012-09-22 11:26:20
        
        Nonsense by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-21 17:43:38
    - Right now Buck, I think it is...the media is smoke and mirrors to what is however I don't listen ... by Jody 2012-09-21 13:34:03
    - Considering the media has been called "the Fourth Branch of Government"... by TB 2012-09-21 12:50:40
      - The excuse has gotten very stale by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-21 17:18:28
Time will tell. by Jody 2012-09-21 11:25:06
Romney's made his own negatives. by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-21 00:48:02
- Interesting... by TB 2012-09-21 11:56:53
  - When did I say that was the only thing conservatives were saying? by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-21 12:36:01
  - That is what I hope comes to light...Obama. It is time he steps up to the plate... by Jody 2012-09-21 12:21:12
What's remarkable... by TB 2012-09-20 20:45:55
- National polls by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-21 10:24:39
- I'll agree it's closer than it looks. Or that people think. by bowser 2012-09-20 21:55:27
  - "Bravado". Still got that bookmark? n/t by RobVG 2012-10-03 19:47:51
    - Didn't you see... by SDAI-Tech 2012-10-04 10:06:05
  - Brains and bullshit. Well said. by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-20 23:34:28

The economy is not consumer driven? by RobVG September 30, 2012 9:06 am

Property is merely a euphemism used to justify violence. Ask the Indians. by ER 2012-10-02 18:44:41
- "All property is theft" by TB 2012-10-02 19:43:26
  - Maybe I can't integrate... by ER 2012-10-02 20:15:38
I see what you mean by Robert 2012-09-30 18:57:09
- No, you just didn't get it. Or didn't want to. by TB 2012-10-01 12:26:51
  - Barking mad by Robert 2012-10-01 23:17:28
  - In other words... by SDAI-Tech 2012-10-01 20:19:34
    - When the economy is bad, you increase the money supply. When you have inflation, you tighten it. by alcaray 2012-10-02 11:07:26
    - Vorticial economics by Robert 2012-10-01 23:02:13
      - I heard this somewhere: by TB 2012-10-02 09:29:39
        
        "A conservative is somebody who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing." by Robert 2012-10-02 11:08:18
        
        No, you've drifted off into the ditch. by TB 2012-10-02 11:39:47
        
        Many people (in this economy, especially).. by alcaray 2012-10-02 13:01:35
        
        You can't be this obtuse. by TB 2012-10-02 13:21:54
        
        So all those times the Fed moved to increase the money supply to improve the economy... by alcaray 2012-10-02 13:45:15
        
        Yes. by TB 2012-10-02 14:38:54
        
        Lowering the funds rates increases money supply. That's why they do it. by alcaray 2012-10-02 14:45:51
        
        And let me expand a bit on the housing example. by TB 2012-10-02 11:58:54
      - Value by SDAI-Tech 2012-10-02 01:00:02
        
        The more things change, the more they stay the same by Robert 2012-10-02 22:21:45
        
        The Claim by TB 2012-10-03 09:36:11
"Consumers" don't buy housing. by TB 2012-09-30 09:46:44
- This was a draft but I'm not going to bother finishing it. by RobVG 2012-10-01 18:53:20
  - I give up. by TB 2012-10-01 21:59:05
    - If anyone was serious about the deficit they'd be talking about raising taxes. by RobVG 2012-10-01 22:13:42
      - Which ones? by TB 2012-10-01 22:41:13
        
        Looks like just about all. by RobVG 2012-10-01 23:15:59
        
        That's not policy. by TB 2012-10-02 09:21:45
    - One more for the road... by TB 2012-10-01 22:05:25
- Consumer by alcaray 2012-10-01 15:18:44
- The English language getting the best of you again? by bowser 2012-09-30 15:56:02

Zingers by RobVG October 2, 2012 8:20 am

He's been saying it every time the topic of debate comes up. by alcaray 2012-10-02 13:04:09
Spin prep. by TB 2012-10-02 09:19:24
- Ryan: by alcaray 2012-10-02 13:19:10
- As usual, accuse the other guy of what you're doing yourself. by bowser 2012-10-02 11:59:46

Socialist Man by TB September 30, 2012 9:14 am

Wal-martification of the electorate by SDAI-Tech 2012-10-01 04:36:31
- Your socialists were given the power by those who brought the economy down. Don't blame stupidity and ignorance. n/t by RobVG 2012-10-02 08:09:26
  - If they vote the same way now after the past four years, it's stupidity and ignorance. by TB 2012-10-02 09:33:02
    - Voting stupid... by BuckGalaxy 2012-10-02 11:05:12
      - Middle class income by TB 2012-10-02 11:18:01
- Scared to ask: what was wrong with the Democratic convention vote count? by alcaray 2012-10-01 14:32:36
  - The vote by SDAI-Tech 2012-10-02 01:09:57
    - Ah, you're right. That was shady. by alcaray 2012-10-02 11:01:44
You used to squeal like a stuck pig when we pointed out some particularly humorous signs at Tparty rallies. by alcaray 2012-09-30 14:13:34
I get it! The Democratic party is exactly like North Korea! by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-30 12:56:01
- no no no, his point is that education leads to tyranny. by Robert 2012-09-30 19:03:52
  - Not really. by TB 2012-09-30 20:02:28
    - I know by Robert 2012-10-01 12:23:28
      - Tell you what, when "reason" shows up, change the font color or something to flag me. by TB 2012-10-01 12:29:27
        
        Like this? by Robert 2012-10-02 09:41:13
Greed is one of the Seven Deadly Sins, not the high point of existence. by bowser 2012-09-30 11:51:17
- I believe there are six other deadly sins....not just *greed*. "Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with ... by Jody 2012-09-30 19:27:07

As long as I'm at it. by bowser October 1, 2012 11:57 pm

The latest conservative argument: Don't vote for Obama because his mother was a slut by BuckGalaxy September 28, 2012 12:18 pm

Speaking of Dinesh D'Souza... by TB 2012-09-29 11:33:55
Don't even get me started on this one. by Jody 2012-09-28 16:12:39
Despicable. by TB 2012-09-28 14:00:11
- Honestly I've never heard of either examples you gave by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-28 22:27:14
  - Memory holes by TB 2012-09-29 10:29:38

How to tell when there is something seriously wrong. by bowser September 28, 2012 12:23 pm

This is why you guys hated ACORN... by alcaray September 27, 2012 6:13 pm

The polls are rigged. by alcaray September 27, 2012 11:35 am

It's actually a lot more complicated. by TB 2012-09-27 14:30:16
- Rasmussen has been the outlier poll for some time by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-27 15:12:40
  - Thanks, I was looking for something like this by alcaray 2012-09-27 15:58:38
- Which poll? (I'm not a subscriber, so if that's what it takes to confirm your point, don't bother) by alcaray 2012-09-27 15:08:19
I used to watch Fox to keep track of right-wing propaganda methods. by ER 2012-09-27 12:50:14
- Fox and friends is a perfect example of what you are talking about by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-27 13:35:00
Poll Trutherism the latest right wing fantasy by BuckGalaxy 2012-09-27 12:44:20
- Pollerism by ER 2012-09-27 15:33:17
  - Heh. by TB 2012-09-27 15:40:32
    - Talk about hanging onto a grudge... by alcaray 2012-09-27 16:01:07
    - Then you should have nothing to worry about, should you? by ER 2012-09-27 15:42:52

From where I sit. by Jody September 20, 2012 8:36 am

The mistake a lot of us make is thinking there is always a middle ground that works for both sides. by TB 2012-09-20 10:58:51
- What insufferable arrogance. by ER 2012-09-27 09:51:03
- Some Liberals here seem to hold the conservatives here ...(and you specifically Tom) accountable for all the conservatives ever born. ... by Jody 2012-09-20 14:07:47
  - How did that get political? by bowser 2012-09-20 18:06:42
    - Meow....... by Jody 2012-09-20 19:11:29
      - Well, that's one answer I suppose. by bowser 2012-09-20 19:49:18
        
        How I roll... (how Eri hated that that phrase!) I was trying to lighten up the thread. It's my rant and ... by Jody 2012-09-21 10:43:32
        
        How many "Daffy Ducks" have you gotten for responses? by TB 2012-09-21 08:41:13
        
        Not nearly enough. You're still quacking nonsense. by ER 2012-09-27 09:07:03
        
        :) I wasn't gonna go there. by Jody 2012-09-21 09:58:11
        
        Touche` by Jody 2012-09-21 07:53:20
I am just gonna quit wearin' panties;) by Jody 2012-09-20 08:48:39
- Purrrrrrrrrrrr by Jody 2012-09-20 19:12:15

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