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So Romney's paying... by alcaray January 24, 2012 12:04 am
  • Romney paid over $6 million in Federal taxes in the past two years. by TB 2012-01-24 09:27:22
    • Amazing. by alcaray 2012-01-24 12:06:11
      • Just for fun by RobVG 2012-01-24 09:54:22
        • Be careful of the terminology. (EDITED FOR CORRECTION) by TB 2012-01-24 10:56:30
          • One more time if you don’t mind by RobVG 2012-01-24 17:54:46
            • define:progressive tax rate, define:regressive tax rate by Robert 2012-01-24 18:37:27
              • What? by RobVG 2012-01-24 21:39:52
                • "Regressive" is not a perjorative. It is just a word that economists defined to have a certain meaning. ... by alcaray 2012-01-25 21:29:48
                  • Those are standard definitions, and I had to look them up. I hope you don't expect me to defend them; I'm no economist. by Robert 2012-01-25 20:00:54
                    • Regressivity by RobVG 2012-01-26 10:22:55
                      • Seems a reasonable example. by Robert 2012-01-26 12:33:21
                        • A flat tax is a proportional tax. by TB 2012-01-26 10:50:30
                          • There is indeed an upper limit imposed on all flavors of payroll taxes: you need to earn a salary to ... by alcaray 2012-01-26 16:58:02
                            • Warren Buffett pays a lower rate than his secretary because his income is taxed as capital gains, and hers isn't. by TB 2012-01-26 17:39:44
                              • You seemed to repeat back some of what I said, expanded, added some touches of rudeness. You did ... by alcaray 2012-01-26 18:56:27
                    • Go here. Look at the charts and tables. Maybe just once something will stick. by TB 2012-01-24 19:13:18
                      • You do love that red herring, don't you? by Robert 2012-01-24 20:34:59
                        • About the definitions, you were right and I was wrong. by TB 2012-01-24 20:41:08
                          • And I spoke too soon by Robert 2012-01-24 21:10:24
                            • I was primarily concerned about the tax brackets everyone's arguing about, not the "wealth gap," so inflation didn't really come ... by TB 2012-01-24 21:48:42
                              • Yeah, those look like "my" numbers. by Robert 2012-01-25 11:30:39
                                • The problem with defending markets here is that too many people can't think outside the "managed economy" box. by TB 2012-01-25 16:59:11
                                  • Ah gee, and you were doing so well up to this point. by Robert 2012-01-25 21:52:33
                                    • In other words, you've got nothing. by TB 2012-01-26 09:01:33
                                    • posts shortening width/ in death star trash compactor/ best answer haiku by alcaray 2012-01-25 18:36:20
                                      • Burma Shave. by Robert 2012-01-25 19:36:06
                      • I don't mind wealthy people paying more taxes than people who aren't. I never did. by TB 2012-01-24 18:27:29
                        • Good answer- Thanks n/t by RobVG 2012-01-24 22:56:31
                  • Tax rates of presidential candidates by TB 2012-01-24 09:41:25
                    • I see you misunderstood the point: the wealthy pay at a lower rate than many of us in the lower ... by alcaray 2012-01-24 15:39:59
                      • I understood the point. You didn't understand the response. by TB 2012-01-24 16:48:54
                        • TB, either you are stupid or you consistently and deliberately spin your responses away from the point of the poster. ... by bowser 2012-01-24 18:42:30
                          • I understood your response perfectly: "How many Democrats here were up in arms about Kerry’s tax “rates” back then?" ... by alcaray 2012-01-24 17:38:42
                            • "Rates" was in quotes. It's your bugaboo and the Post's, not mine. by TB 2012-01-24 17:55:59
                    Should, but doesn't, belong on Space. Gingrich promises US moon colony by 2020 by bowser January 26, 2012 12:04 am
                    • That certainly does sound a lot more "big government project" than the low-key "prize" based concept I linked in an earlier post. by TB 2012-01-26 08:54:47
                      • "One of Gingrich’s downsides is that he’s a bit too spontaneous." In other words, he'll say anything to get votes. ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-26 10:46:04
                        • "He'll say anything to get votes" is one of those comments where everyone who throws that rock is living in ... by TB 2012-01-26 11:10:19
                          • Well, that was my impression by RobVG 2012-01-26 17:52:50
                      • Nah. It's because he was making a speech in Florida before the fla primary. He will probably do ... by alcaray 2012-01-26 00:49:20
                        Catholic blog notes the media's selectivity on coverage by TB January 24, 2012 11:51 pm
                        • My line above the topic line says Home >> Space/Science. I'm sure that's not right, but if this ... by bowser 2012-01-25 00:20:07
                          • Me: Hey, look at how the biased media ignores major events liberals don't think should be covered. by TB 2012-01-25 10:13:24
                            • It's a bug by RobVG 2012-01-25 09:58:04
                              • I've been struggling with that for months. You summed it up nicely with the description of the header being "carried" ... by Robert 2012-01-25 11:33:53
                            What The Top U.S. Companies Pay In Taxes by TB January 24, 2012 7:54 pm
                              Newt Gingrich and the high cost of government. by bowser January 23, 2012 8:56 pm
                              • Romney reports 42.5 million income in 2010 and 2011. A worthy Republican President. Now someone tell me how he 'earned' ... by bowser 2012-01-23 22:59:57
                                • I'm with you on that one....I was appalled at the stance of Gingrich, Romney and Santorum pounding their chests all ... by Lindy 2012-01-24 11:39:59
                                  • As with "family values," Democratic concern with wealthy political candidates seems to be a relatively recent phenomenon. by TB 2012-01-24 08:58:06
                                    • Again, you avoid the point and try to divert. The observation was that it was impossible to "earn" that ... by bowser 2012-01-24 10:55:21
                                      • I don't think the guys with the masks and guns get to decide what's "earned" or not. by TB 2012-01-24 11:07:26
                                        • I'm done, TB. For this election, anyway. You cannot and will not stick to a point. For ... by bowser 2012-01-24 18:48:33
                                          • No, I said the people whose objective is looting that income are not qualified to decide "earned." by TB 2012-01-24 19:04:22
                                  • The "historian" will release his contracts just prior to the next debate. Let's see how well they bear out ... by bowser 2012-01-23 21:28:32
                                    The 6 Killer Apps of prosperity by TB January 23, 2012 7:36 pm
                                    • The Six Killer Apps. that he speaks of is common sense. Interesting to note that East Germany and North Korea ... by Jody 2012-01-24 18:55:50
                                      Marine to serve no time in Iraq killings case. by bowser January 24, 2012 6:53 pm
                                        For Buck by Jody January 22, 2012 11:39 am
                                        • Your post is essentially a discussion on the merits of a single payer system, which of course has its pros ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-22 17:04:13
                                          • Buck, there may be people with a different approach to these issues. Imagine a dear, sweet person who approaches ... by bowser 2012-01-23 00:51:04
                                            • Buck, there may be people with a different approach to these issues. Imagine a dear, sweet person who approaches these ... by Jody 2012-01-23 11:27:15
                                              • And, of course, my mother wears Army boots. Actually, neither one is true. My mother does not wear Army boots, ... by bowser 2012-01-23 14:42:00
                                                • True enough. I don't understand your insatiable need for a pissin' contest. I am dear and sweet. P.S. My mother did wear ... by Jody 2012-01-23 18:08:33
                                              • Heh. Yeah, I can imagine that. by TB 2012-01-23 09:17:55
                                              • Who's going to be paying the new taxes? Think hard and be very specific. by TB 2012-01-22 22:00:11
                                                • Everyone who works and pays taxes now. by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-23 13:06:49
                                                  • Those who can afford to, TB. Compare someone with huge mansions and someone without health insurance and tell me ... by bowser 2012-01-22 23:28:39
                                                    • That's what I figured. by TB 2012-01-23 09:03:05
                                                      • You are absolutely correct. Screw them. Nobody is "earning" an obscene amount of money. A janitor is ... by bowser 2012-01-23 18:37:38
                                                        • "The United States was a powerful country" by TB 2012-01-23 19:27:38
                                                          • Your first question was who was to pay for health insurance for the needy. Be specific you said. ... by bowser 2012-01-24 00:52:54
                                                  • Actually Buck...I get it. I always got it. Where I come from is I simply don't believe it. I have trust ... by Jody 2012-01-22 17:36:04
                                                    • The most obvious model to compare is the public school one. No one who sends their kids to public ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-22 18:32:30
                                                      • This is your government education system. by TB 2012-01-22 22:07:28
                                                        • Private schools not in your graph? I wonder why? They cost more per student than public schools. But we were originally ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-23 13:02:22
                                                          • Public schools average about $12,700 per student. by TB 2012-01-23 15:57:01
                                                            • More... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-23 13:10:17
                                                              • That second chart should have raised your eyebrows. by TB 2012-01-23 15:29:32
                                                                • It's pretty cut and dry as far as Medicare being more efficient. 5% spent on administering the program, 95% ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-24 00:17:08
                                                                  • Fantastic!! However, there is no such thing as Obamacare. by bowser 2012-01-24 00:53:41
                                                    Can America survive without a middle class? by bowser January 23, 2012 12:23 am
                                                    • Hey Bowz....we already ARE a banana republic, run by monied interests and backed up by private military. You know that ... by Lindy 2012-01-23 11:57:01
                                                      • These folks remind me of someone who has jumped off the 20th floor of a building. Passing the 5th ... by bowser 2012-01-23 17:24:04
                                                        • Got it, like watching the republican debates...I'll bet Tom was playing with himself... by Lindy 2012-01-23 21:32:59
                                                      How conservatives appeal to the middle class to work against itself. by bowser January 20, 2012 10:49 am
                                                      • It’s the economy stupid by RobVG 2012-01-20 13:57:20
                                                        • That, Rob, is as impressive an example of what I just described as I could have created. "Thought about it, started ... by bowser 2012-01-20 14:19:29
                                                          • Any time...n/t by RobVG 2012-01-20 14:59:51
                                                        • There's a lot of truth there. And let's not forget the influence of culture, either. Our upbringing and ... by ER 2012-01-20 11:43:18
                                                          • I don't speak for anyone other than myself, so this opinion is just about as subjective as Salvador Dali's critique ... by Jody 2012-01-20 11:31:40
                                                            • You are typical of conservative middle class folks. A misunderstanding of issues and solutions is clear in your posts. ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-20 13:31:45
                                                              • Buck...get ready to hit the floor again...5 second rule does not apply. I see you as a dreamer. You actually ... by Jody 2012-01-20 15:06:56
                                                                • Jody, this is really really sad. You just can't wrap your brain around the FACT that modestly higher taxes ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-20 15:41:26
                                                                  • Thank you Buck for your usual irasciblation. Did you miss your caffeine window again? As Tom so calmly pointed out...I, too will ... by Jody 2012-01-21 09:43:37
                                                                    • EVERYONE, PLEASE ADDRESS ONLY MY POINT: Very simply, if we have a single payer system Jody will not ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-21 16:24:26
                                                                    • Facts are immaterial, everyone believes what they want to believe by FrankC 2012-01-20 18:54:56
                                                                      • When I'm 65 I won't have a choice. by TB 2012-01-20 17:33:58
                                                                        • Where does your health care come from now? As an unemployed or contract employed man do you pay for ... by bowser 2012-01-20 19:14:01
                                                                    • Didn't shock me. by TB 2012-01-20 14:09:54
                                                                      • That is exactly how I feel Tom. Buck!!! Now get up off that floor soldier! by Jody 2012-01-20 14:50:58
                                                                        • As someone who gets his medical needs taken care of for free, I don't mind paying my share in taxes ... by ER 2012-01-20 14:46:00
                                                                          • "As someone who gets his medical needs taken care of for free, I don’t mind paying my share in taxes ... by TB 2012-01-20 16:50:06
                                                                            • I don't qualify for Medicare, my wife does. She goes to the same doctor we went to when I ... by ER 2012-01-20 17:37:33
                                                                              • The entire fundamental premise of social spending is about a large majority helping out a small minority. by TB 2012-01-20 18:10:47
                                                                                • The same premise is true for insurance premiums. Doh! by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-22 16:53:57
                                                                                  • Tom, its not my problem. by ER 2012-01-20 19:16:57
                                                                                • And I guessed you missed the part about people who CAN'T afford alternatives, and the little bit about a social ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-20 17:02:41
                                                                                  • The "social contract" is already pretty damn healthy. by TB 2012-01-20 17:57:16
                                                                                    • To have a chance at real success in this world, you need a college degree. It is a necessity, ... by ER 2012-01-20 17:52:51
                                                                                  • Bravo! (see comment) by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-20 15:43:44
                                                                                    • When is government hand outs enough for you? Where do we draw the line? by Jody 2012-01-20 15:08:43
                                                                                      • You might have noticed it will never be enough. by TB 2012-01-20 18:03:05
                                                                                        • We draw the line where those whose parents couldn't afford to send them to school have to work all their ... by ER 2012-01-20 15:22:14
                                                                                • Oooh, now try this one! by TB 2012-01-20 11:28:00
                                                                                  • Republicans have long used wedge issues to distract voters away from their anti-middle class economic policies. by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-20 11:15:55
                                                                                    • Yep. The nation is besieiged with crisis, foreign and domestic, and they worry about gay marriage and prayer in ... by ER 2012-01-20 12:03:31
                                                                                      • The author points out that conservatives are erasing the entire 20th century. Which, by the way, is when America ... by bowser 2012-01-20 14:12:05
                                                                                        • Yep. That was what 2010 was all about. Gay marriage and prayer in the schools. by TB 2012-01-20 13:13:54
                                                                                          • TB, you have this impressive way of saying "That's wrong" and believing it. Now tell me that gay marriage, ... by bowser 2012-01-20 14:15:43
                                                                                            • Apparently I wasn't specific enough. by TB 2012-01-20 16:42:28
                                                                                          • I know Conservatives appear to be stuffed olives, but they do not speak for everyone. Conservatives think they preserve. Democrats think they ... by Jody 2012-01-20 12:09:25
                                                                                        Why a conservative can win. by bowser January 17, 2012 12:45 am
                                                                                        • I love how you and ER will go on the attack and then turn around adding a qualifier here ... by RobVG 2012-01-21 16:28:40
                                                                                          • I can't help it, Rob. Politeness is in my genes, goes to the very heart of my being. ... by bowser 2012-01-21 17:00:05
                                                                                            • Seriously, that was good for a laugh, Thanks. Have a good day at work. by RobVG 2012-01-21 17:12:51
                                                                                              • Thank you. I enjoyed it. GTG, have a wild and riotous Saturday evening. by bowser 2012-01-21 17:24:56
                                                                                                • My Saturday evening has turned into a real blast...Ma plugged the toilet...overflowed...shit water everywhere. Right after dinner. Damn my life rocks. by Jody 2012-01-21 19:03:16
                                                                                            • If we ever have "a national sales tax" it will be because those on the left who fight it will ... by alcaray 2012-01-21 16:58:04
                                                                                              • I'm in favor of a 10% national sales tax on stocks, bonds and derivatives, including hedge funds. No food, ... by bowser 2012-01-22 03:12:07
                                                                                                • You're right by RobVG 2012-01-21 17:31:43
                                                                                                  • We've been over this. by TB 2012-01-21 18:24:04
                                                                                                    • What percent of the wealth of America is owned by the top 1%? by alcaray 2012-01-21 20:08:12
                                                                                                      • The 2007 pre-recession numbers are in this article, divided into income, investments, and general financial assets. by TB 2012-01-21 21:32:53
                                                                                                        • Nice of you to link to a source that makes my point: "But an analysis of the Fed data is ... by alcaray 2012-01-21 21:41:58
                                                                                                      • Is a sales tax regressive by RobVG 2012-01-21 18:54:56
                                                                                                        • I know what regressive means. by TB 2012-01-21 19:46:33
                                                                                                          • In other words, there's only so much room in the economy for the wealthy. n/t by RobVG 2012-01-21 19:26:48
                                                                                                      • Bingo. It will be accompanied by a reduction on taxes on the ultra-wealthy, who will buy enough Congressmen to ... by bowser 2012-01-21 17:01:32
                                                                                                    • Narcissism and paranoia. by ER 2012-01-17 05:54:39
                                                                                                      • Actually, I think we're already in a state of decline; thanks to the corporate ladders of greediness, protected by the ... by Lindy 2012-01-18 16:13:43
                                                                                                        • Roger that! Welcome back, Lindy. by ER 2012-01-18 20:12:24
                                                                                                          • I made it here two days in a row; doesn't mean I'll remember to come back a third....nice to see ... by Lindy 2012-01-19 11:16:23
                                                                                                      Boy, howdy! There are some ruthless folks around here. by bowser January 20, 2012 8:02 pm
                                                                                                      • This is one reason why I left the ZONE.....I felt uncomfortable in the presence of some of the Conservatives, even ... by Lindy 2012-01-21 13:23:05
                                                                                                        • Hey Lindy! by BuckGalaxy 2012-01-21 15:54:36
                                                                                                          • How many is too many conservatives? One? Two? by TB 2012-01-21 14:21:06
                                                                                                          • Hey, I'm nice! Sorta... kinda.... Somewhat..... Side note though: Jesus was sort of a jerk. *ducks for cover* by VelociraptorBlade 2012-01-21 01:30:13
                                                                                                            • Ivory tower by RobVG 2012-01-20 20:48:30
                                                                                                              • Don't hear much about the old Ozone Hole lately, do you? by TB 2012-01-20 21:27:34
                                                                                                                • I'm gonna let the water run the whole time I brush my teeth. by Jody 2012-01-20 21:15:49
                                                                                                                • It's always nice to have that Right-Wing Scarecrow you can bring out of your closet when the real arguments here ... by TB 2012-01-20 20:12:03
                                                                                                                  • And a little note on Jesus: by TB 2012-01-20 20:14:19
                                                                                                                    • And you don't have any awareness of what He DID say, do you? Or, do you know, and just disagree? by bowser 2012-01-21 01:23:14
                                                                                                                      • This would be a lot easier if people could follow the simplest train of thought. by TB 2012-01-21 10:33:15
                                                                                                                        • Read your post, TB, and try to track. Just read your own post. And try to understand it. ... by bowser 2012-01-21 17:05:36
                                                                                                                          • Your problem is you're expecting them to act like adults by RobVG 2012-01-21 16:27:52
                                                                                                                            • Yeah, and Obamacare is the first step of a slippery slope which will inevitably lead to an American Soviet Socialist ... by ER 2012-01-21 12:37:39
                                                                                                                              • Kind of like that. by TB 2012-01-21 13:09:00
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