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A 10 y/o plays football against the 49ers.
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That's relativity.
 
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That's relativity.
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Your argument is valid, except for the fact that
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Use or misuse of a word tells us nothing about what the word allegedly describes.
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Obsession about definitions?
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Black Hole is a term coined by astronomers.
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You wrote that
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Newton was 99.99% right.
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It is interesting how an honest dialogue often turns towards the absurd.
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People saying absurd things will do that.
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Tell me about it.
 
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People saying absurd things will do that.
 
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It is interesting how an honest dialogue often turns towards the absurd.
 
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Newton was 99.99% right.
 
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You wrote that
 
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Black Hole is a term coined by astronomers.
 
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Obsession about definitions?
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The galaxy is expanding?  I don't think so.
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My reasoning is that
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Objects that close are both red-shifted and blue-shifted...
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But stars and galaxies of stars were formed by gravity? Tthey formed by contraction. I
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Contraction, explosion, expansion. Perhaps.
 
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Contraction, explosion, expansion. Perhaps.
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Why not use your reasoning, instead,
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The concept of an experimental proof is very simple.
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No, Johannes.
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Hmm, interesting
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Why make things so complicated?
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The calculations?
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The calculations do not need to explain any theory to any layman.
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You are assuming that it is the “mass” that causes the gravitational field.
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No I am not.
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OK now that you  read about it.
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I was hoping you would read about it.
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I read it but did not get the an answer to my question.
- Your shields are impervious. I yield.
 
 
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I read it but did not get the an answer to my question.
 - The shortest possible answer...
 
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I was hoping you would read about it.
 
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OK now that you  read about it.
 
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No I am not.
 
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You are assuming that it is the “mass” that causes the gravitational field.
 
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The calculations do not need to explain any theory to any layman.
 
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The calculations?
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Correction
 
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Why make things so complicated?
 
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Hmm, interesting
 
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No, Johannes.
 
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The concept of an experimental proof is very simple.
 
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Objects that close are both red-shifted and blue-shifted...
 
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My reasoning is that
 
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Use or misuse of a word tells us nothing about what the word allegedly describes.
 - Well done, 4.0, except they do seem to suck, a lot, and blow, a little.
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Excellent, thanks n/t