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A time to remember. September 11, 2011 11:41 pm bowser

This is a good time to remember not just the tragic loss of the WTC people and property.  (Terrorism – deliberately killing innocent men, women and children.)

It’s a good time to remember that dropping the two atomic bombs on Japan was terrorism.  (Deliberately killing innocent men, women and children.   The heinous sneak attack against Pearl Harbor was a military operation against a military objective.)  The firebombing of Japan and Germany was classic terrorism.  (Deliberately killing innocent civilians, again.)  Agent Orange in Vietnam.  (Chemical warfare deliberately poisoning and destroying the food supply of innocent men, women and children.)  ”Shock and Awe”, a bombing attack against an entirely innocent country, killing innocent men, women and children in an attempt to reduce innocent military personnel, men, women and children into quivering masses.  (I wonder how many Americans would like their children subjected to that torture?  How militarily effective it was having those kids scarred?)  Using Remotely Piloted Vehicles to destroy schools, weddings and vehicles attended by and occupied by innocent men, women and children.

The US is quite possibly the perpetrator of more terrorism than any other nation or nations on Earth.  The US is a victim of both terrorism from others and it’s own terrorism.  We are what we hate.  The more we claim we are only emulating the badguys the more of a badguy we have become.

We won’t remember any of that, of course, but it would be a good time to do so.  Those with an ability to deny reality will deny it, even.  And if our nation were ever going to return to greatness it would courageously remember, learn and change.
Arf

  • A response to Robert and ER. I apologize for the longer discourse on this post. The more I ... by bowser 2011-09-12 21:26:01
    • I think I'm well disabused of the term "morality". by Robert 2011-09-13 14:42:28
    • I will resist the urge to quote "My Country Right Or Wrong" just to piss you off. You know you can ... by FrankC 2011-09-12 17:04:22
      • Frank, you win. I concede. First, I'd like to commend you on your "My Country Right or Wrong" ... by bowser 2011-09-12 20:42:12
        • Just so you know, you've the same editorial powers as anyone else here, with the exception of Robert and Myself. ... by podrock 2011-09-12 21:47:44
          • Thank you. I did not know any of that. Arf by bowser 2011-09-12 22:32:38
            • You should also know that no post of yours has ever been edited by me and that has been established ... by FrankC 2011-09-12 22:53:57
              • Thanks Frank, for agreeing with me. You do have the ability to delete, etc., my posts. At your whim. Simply because ... by bowser 2011-09-13 09:36:11
                • To be clear about this, Bowser, you have the ability to delete, etc., Frank's posts. Or my posts, or ... by podrock 2011-09-13 19:46:42
                • The only reason I could think of to delete a post would be if someone did something like post someone's ... by TB 2011-09-13 08:45:26
                  • The other kind of posts we will not not tolerate are posts that call for or document extreme violence. Such ... by podrock 2011-09-13 19:53:27
                    • What if we call for extreme violence on spammers? by TB 2011-09-13 20:14:29
                      • Allowed, as long as it is not documented. Surely you remember when we all got together and decided these things. ... by FrankC 2011-09-13 21:43:49
                        • I vote that we hang, draw and quarter spammers right after we pepper spray and waterboard them. But I don't want ... by Eri 2011-09-14 09:35:23
                          • You have to pepper spray them after the waterboarding, or it washes right off. I've screwed up on that ... by TB 2011-09-14 09:50:50
                            • You must have done it wrong, then. Dammit, how many times do I have to tell you that water ... by Eri 2011-09-15 16:33:28
                              • My son, in a young and stupid moment some years ago, took a healthy chomp out of one of those ... by TB 2011-09-15 16:56:37
        • I partially agree with you. It is painful to think of your own country as capable of terrorist acts ... by Eri 2011-09-12 15:41:59
          • In every single culture throughout human history, females have been abused and mistreated by males. No, I don't think ... by ER 2011-09-12 16:56:07
            • I could envision a society in which women could win. As an SF/Fantasy writer, that is easy to do. ... by Eri 2011-09-13 18:15:01
              • Don't forget Margaret Thatcher. by TB 2011-09-13 18:38:05
                • Oh Wow! How could I ever have forgotten her. Her voice is forever burned into my brain. ... by Eri 2011-09-14 06:05:09
          • That's a highly politicized definition of "terror". by Robert 2011-09-12 11:12:35
            • I understand Bowser. Like ER...I do not *completely* agree, but that is the beauty of our country. We may and ... by Jody 2011-09-12 07:08:22
              • What you say is true, but like all truths, there are always qualifications, exceptions and hand-wringing uncertainty. The line ... by ER 2011-09-12 06:47:10
                • Just about a perfect reply. My only possible exception is on the knight's or gentleman's code of honor. Such codes ... by FrankC 2011-09-12 17:14:31

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