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Debt hits 100 percent of GDP mark by TB December 22, 2011 11:32 am

conventional wisdom vs. the markets "In Washington, 2011 was all about dangers posed by America’s deficits. Republicans said deficit reduction ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-12-27 11:40:24
- "Infrastructure." Translation: Print another few trillion dollars and pass it to our union pals while we have the ... by TB 2011-12-27 12:12:42
  - Infrastructure was once something EVERYONE agreed on. wtf!? Do you think there might be an economic price for ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-12-27 19:39:31
    - Number One: by TB 2011-12-27 21:00:28
Debt six times annual income? Oh, you mean a mortgage. by Robert 2011-12-23 11:08:55
- Nice try. by TB 2011-12-23 12:23:12
  - Heh. by TB 2011-12-23 12:27:21
    - It's really not true that everything is politics. That was a meta comment on your technique, with the big scary ... by Robert 2011-12-23 16:54:19
      - No, things stop being "politics" when the wrong ox is being gored. by TB 2011-12-23 19:23:33
We have a long term debt problem. We have a short term jobs crisis. Focus on jobs now ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-12-22 21:47:21
- We'll get more jobs when employers stop being Enemies of the People. by TB 2011-12-22 22:18:09
  - That's right. Why don't they stop? by ER 2011-12-23 07:33:53
  - We'll get more jobs when the gop stops trying to tank the economy to regain power. by BuckGalaxy 2011-12-23 00:35:16
    - The GOP is doing all this? by TB 2011-12-23 12:35:51
- You know, a cynic might say that high unemployment was good for business. It keeps salaries down. by ER 2011-12-22 21:54:36
Obama: by TB 2011-12-22 12:24:32

"Pentagon: Mistakes led to deadly Pakistan airstrike." The US acknowledges it's mistake. by bowser December 22, 2011 8:42 am

"Obama, the appeaser, apologizes to terrorists." by ER 2011-12-22 08:47:21
- Being witty again I see n/t by RobVG 2011-12-22 09:06:08
  - It's a target-rich environment. by ER 2011-12-22 09:11:34

Chevy Volt subsidies by TB December 21, 2011 6:25 pm

What a farce. Geo Metros still getting 54mpg n/t by RobVG 2011-12-21 19:13:53

"US general in Afghanistan: Troops may stay past 2014" by bowser December 20, 2011 9:00 pm

We need to leave Afganistan. by Lee 2011-12-26 16:11:03
We reached the point of diminishing returns in Afghanistan a long time ago. The only reason we've stayed was ... by ER 2011-12-21 15:39:02
Didn't Obama say something about removing troops from Iraq by the end of the year? Plus, the New York Times isn't ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-12-21 13:28:10
- The NYT is considered to be a superb source for he facts, disputed only by those who don't like those ... by bowser 2011-12-21 13:47:11
  - Bowser's right on this one. It's a valid source, particularly direct quotes. by TB 2011-12-21 17:36:38
- The Iraq Status of Forces Agreement signed in 2008 set December 31, 2011 as the deadline for all troops to ... by TB 2011-12-21 13:39:50

Il dead. by podrock December 18, 2011 7:27 pm

The North Koreans I've seen in the papers, on the internet and TV seem genuinely upset. They can't all ... by bowser 2011-12-20 12:03:46
- Brainwashing does wonders. Not to mention something akin to Stockholm Syndrome. by VelociraptorBlade 2011-12-21 13:28:56
- C'mon, Bowz. Not even Elvis had mourners like that. by ER 2011-12-20 12:39:07
The Glorious Successor looks dangerously unstable. by ER 2011-12-19 18:17:43
- Dangerously unstable indeed. by TB 2011-12-19 22:00:30
  - Caligula redux? Where is the Praetorian guard when you need them? That guy in the middle looks likely, but they are ... by FrankC 2011-12-20 23:39:17
  - There's a pattern here. Fidel Chavez Ahmadinejad Kim (2) Ghaddafi All dangerously unstable in the propagandized minds of Americans. All demonized by those ... by bowser 2011-12-19 23:34:17
    - What good have those leaders done for their own people by RobVG 2011-12-20 09:09:40
      - Both sides here are delusional in my opinion. Those people you mentioned bowser? They aren't unstable but they are threats ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-12-20 19:21:55
      - You don't know, do you? Well, try this. And wonder why you didn't know this. A Libyan ... by bowser 2011-12-20 09:16:45
        
        That’s the biggest sidestep I’ve ever seen on the Zone by RobVG 2011-12-20 18:50:05
        
        You are making a fool of yourself, deliberately I think. Did you know that about Libya? Have any ... by bowser 2011-12-21 02:12:25
        
        It's pretty obvious a lot of people know more about Libya than you care to. by TB 2011-12-21 09:25:01
        
        "Demonizer"? Look in the mirror. n/t by RobVG 2011-12-21 09:05:32
        
        Now that was a thoughtful, erudite reply. Devastating in its logic, followed up with a powerful prose rebuttal with ... by bowser 2011-12-21 11:00:01
        
        I feel I was entitled to that. by RobVG 2011-12-21 18:22:31
        
        Everything you don't want to believe is the Work of the Devil. by TB 2011-12-21 11:41:01
        
        C'mon, Bowz. Libya could afford to be generous to its victims. The country is awash in oil money. Castro ... by ER 2011-12-20 10:03:01
        
        And how much of that was publicized as Ghaddafi was demonized? by bowser 2011-12-20 11:30:55
        
        Well, Cuba is a small nation off the southern coast of America. There was a revolution which threw corrupt ... by bowser 2011-12-20 11:29:47
        
        The Soviets gladly stepped in to fill Cuba's needs by RobVG 2011-12-20 19:00:55
    - These nut cases are basically bullies. They don't pick on foreign countries that can fight back. They just ... by ER 2011-12-20 04:56:53
      - In the decision tree on going to war in Iraq, which took place before 9-11 and determined Iraq needed to ... by bowser 2011-12-20 09:22:12
        
        You forget, Bowz, I supported Bush I's decision to invade Iraq. He was punishing Iraq's brutal invasion of Kuwait, ... by ER 2011-12-20 10:24:41
      - You're not even going to call him on the accuracy of his statement? by TB 2011-12-20 09:06:06
        
        Don't need to, arguing court cases is not why I come to this board. I did tell Bowser I disagreed with ... by ER 2011-12-20 09:58:16
        
        Can't. As one who has never questioned the right-wing propaganda propagated by the mega-corporations and right-wing politicians, regarding it ... by bowser 2011-12-20 09:20:45
        
        All right. by TB 2011-12-20 09:30:33
        
        Well, to be fair to Bowser, none of the totalitarian lunatics he mentioned in his post have actually started a ... by ER 2011-12-20 11:03:39
        
        Gaddafi attacked Egypt in 1977 and invaded Chad, annexing the Aouzou Strip for 18 years. Bowser carefully trimmed the first Kim ... by TB 2011-12-20 11:17:38
        
        Tom, remember the example I used? The junta DID invade the Falklands, as I pointed out. I never claimed dictatorships never ... by ER 2011-12-20 12:27:20
        
        Sorry about getting "technical." by TB 2011-12-20 12:46:46
        
        So what you're really saying is that even though I am disputing Bowser, and actualy agree with you, I don't ... by ER 2011-12-20 13:31:37
        
        Didn't say that. I said that by any measure of a "rogue" country or an "unstable" leader, the US ... by bowser 2011-12-20 10:31:53
  - I wonder what they learned from his time at that Swiss school. Otherwise, I don't see how they could ... by ER 2011-12-19 22:09:34
- Cold. If they don't raise sheep they could import some. ON the serious (more serious) side, it looks ... by bowser 2011-12-19 19:40:30
"The dictator is dead, long live the dictator." North Korean political slogan. by bowser 2011-12-18 22:06:48
Well, with his diabetes and heart condition he was sort of asking for it. Not to mention all the ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-12-18 21:49:53

"Why young evangelicals are leaving church" by bowser December 18, 2011 7:05 pm

Vaclav Havel, RIP by TB December 18, 2011 6:24 pm

Penn Jillette: Why I am a Libertarian... by Jody December 18, 2011 4:23 pm

Quick question: If someone tries to proselytize me without my consent, would making a counter-preach of my viewpoint ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-12-20 20:26:19

Ron Paul surging in Iowa by BuckGalaxy December 17, 2011 3:48 pm

EDITED: Placement error (Belongs Below) by ER 2011-12-19 21:20:31
- The "cover charge" at a middle-ground state school has quadrupled over the cost of living index. by TB 2011-12-19 21:34:30
- The subsidies are probably the prime reason the costs are going up so drastically, and we should probably include the ... by TB 2011-12-19 21:31:16
Ya gotta just close your eyes and believe real hard in Tinkerpaul, Buck by Robert 2011-12-18 13:08:14
- Mr Paul is a sort of Utopian Libertarian, sort of the right wing analogue (or should I say 'mirror reflection'?) ... by ER 2011-12-18 15:12:32
  - One man's utopia, etc. by Robert 2011-12-19 17:06:46
    - Amazing how that "let him die" story has evolved in the liberal imagination. by TB 2011-12-19 19:12:22
      - Yeah, but booing the Gay GI is still my favorite glimpse into the limbic system of the Conservative mind. by ER 2011-12-19 19:30:19
        
        That didn't happen the way you think it did either. by TB 2011-12-19 20:27:41
        
        I know how it happened. I was watching on live TV. I don't need no stinkin' footnotes. by ER 2011-12-19 21:04:06
        
        It was like two people. by TB 2011-12-19 21:27:26
    - I've yet to see one of these GOP nominees that looked like he was playing with a full deck, except ... by ER 2011-12-19 18:06:54
      - In December of 1979, Gallup had Carter leading Reagan by 24 points. by TB 2011-12-19 19:21:31
        
        Tom, watching you trying to cover for Bush was just entertaining, seeing you try to make excuses for any of ... by ER 2011-12-19 19:37:25
  - You don't know the half of it. by TB 2011-12-19 08:58:44
    - I heard that Obama is boosting efforts to get universities to consider race in admissions. To me, that sounds racist. by Jody 2011-12-19 11:33:07
      - No problem. After they get rid of Obama and the Dems only people who can afford the tuition will get ... by ER 2011-12-19 18:15:58
        
        Does every answer...okay almost every response from you have to be so snarky? Do I treat you like that? If I ... by Jody 2011-12-19 19:21:05
        
        That's not snarky, that's pure Libertarian/Conservative doctrine. The only people who deserve to go to college are those who've earned the ... by ER 2011-12-19 19:40:34
        
        Yes, and liberal "doctrine" is that anyone who "deserves" to have something should be able to force someone else to ... by TB 2011-12-19 20:24:04
        
        College has NEVER been affordable. The rich and the middle class has always had a subsidy. Tuition was ... by ER 2011-12-19 20:49:01
        
        Wrong. Here's the graph again. . College used to be a hell of a lot more affordable, both for state ... by TB 2011-12-19 20:51:33
        
        When I went to the University of Minnesota, the only school I could afford, annual tuition (fall, winter, spring quarters) ... by TB 2011-12-19 21:08:09
        
        EDITED: Posting artifact by ER 2011-12-19 21:41:52
        
        Pure Libertarian/Conservative doctrine? Then are you lumping ME into this purity? by Jody 2011-12-19 20:01:18
        
        Of course not, and I'm sorry if it seems I'm picking on you. I'm really not. But I do apologize. I ... by ER 2011-12-19 20:42:39
        
        It's not snark when ER does it. Only when I do it. by TB 2011-12-19 19:22:38
        
        I'm sorry if you feel abused, TB. I tell ya what, in the future, I promise I'll go easy on ... by ER 2011-12-19 19:47:58
        
        That's been a pretty common response, too. by TB 2011-12-19 20:13:38
        
        Go ahead, Tom. You don't have anything better to do. by ER 2011-12-19 21:23:12
    - I am voting for the cannibal prawn over in Space/Science for president. by Jody 2011-12-19 11:26:29

Heavy metal is back by TB December 16, 2011 7:25 pm

Christopher Hitchens gone at 62 by Jody December 16, 2011 2:51 pm

Yes, there are atheists in foxholes. by ER 2011-12-17 14:28:58
- Ah, yes. You raised a point, the reason I'm alive. After being sober a number of years, abusing ... by bowser 2011-12-17 15:29:13
- It was Thomas Paine, definitely not an atheist, but also definitely not a Christian. by TB 2011-12-17 14:48:49
  - Thanks for clearing that up TB, I've always wanted some documentation for that story. But what I really want ... by ER 2011-12-17 15:09:19
    - I am at the age where I am losing close older relatives. They all fought as best they could, ... by TB 2011-12-17 21:33:35
      - I feel the same way, but I'm still relatively healthy, and I'm not in excruciating pain with no hope of ... by ER 2011-12-18 07:14:52
        
        Me, too ER....and pain tolerance, emotional tolerance, age tolerance, loneliness tolerance, cost tolerance, watching others suffer as a result tolerance, ... by Jody 2011-12-18 08:28:02

A bit more on that pesky drone. by bowser December 12, 2011 6:55 pm

US asks Iran to return it. Iran says no. Nuff said. by RobVG 2011-12-13 17:27:23
- It's a diplomatic nicety. When the N Koreans requested we return one of their late-model MIGS which a defector ... by ER 2011-12-14 13:29:53
  - It's only polite to return things cleaner than when you got them. by bowser 2011-12-14 23:43:28
- Hands up, anyone who thought that would work. by TB 2011-12-13 19:58:34
  - An illegal spying overflight comes into the hands of those upon whom it was spying. And it should be given back? The ... by bowser 2011-12-14 01:23:15
In the last thousand years, I doubt that any non-illiterate person over 50 has died believing government is truthful. by FrankC 2011-12-13 15:43:45
On May Day, 1960, the USSR shot down a US spy plane, the U2, and captured its pilot, Gary Powers. ... by ER 2011-12-12 21:49:03
- Powers was vilified in the American press. It was claimed he had agreed to commit suicide instead of being ... by bowser 2011-12-13 04:41:20
Another opinion that thinks the drone is real, here. by TB 2011-12-12 19:51:50
The drone could have been recovered by commandos or destroyed by air strike if we had known where it was ... by ER 2011-12-12 19:11:45
- A GPS tracking unit and a contingency plan would have helped. n/t by RobVG 2011-12-12 20:24:43
  - A GPS unit broadcasting the drone's position might not be a good idea. Sure, you could encrypt the transmitted ... by ER 2011-12-12 20:37:04
    - Beacon- long interval, short duration n/t by RobVG 2011-12-12 20:54:19
      - If we can hear it, it's not impossible for them to hear it. Unfortunately, an RPV must constantly feedback information to ... by ER 2011-12-12 22:11:20
- IF it was recovered early, and IF it was moved to a secure area in a heavily populated part of ... by bowser 2011-12-12 19:21:12
  - I guess that settles it, then. Obama's just got no cojones. by ER 2011-12-12 19:25:11

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