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Starship V3 set to make its first launch 6:30pm ET on Monday, May 19 BuckGalaxy May 12, 2026 4:52 pm (Space/Science)

How are you supposed to win a war when you avoid killing people RobVG May 8, 2026 5:47 pm (CurrentEvents)

Good idea, for what it's worth... BuckGalaxy May 11, 2026 11:00 pm (CurrentEvents)

Consequences of the Orange Moron's idiotic war BuckGalaxy May 11, 2026 1:36 am (CurrentEvents)

Trump had to be stopped from using nuclear weapons on Iran (edit - no evidence for claim... BAD RL!) RL April 21, 2026 7:57 pm (CurrentEvents)

NASA's Moon Base User’s Guide BuckGalaxy April 16, 2026 3:10 pm (Space/Science)

There's no way the Post WW2 order can be revived after Trump BuckGalaxy April 30, 2026 5:26 pm (CurrentEvents)

Meanwhile, bye bye National Forest Service podrock April 9, 2026 8:13 am (CurrentEvents)

Is Isreal really a US ally RobVG April 8, 2026 5:21 pm (CurrentEvents)

New Glenn 3 flight profile BuckGalaxy April 18, 2026 12:08 am (Space/Science)

Dragonfly mission to Titan BuckGalaxy March 29, 2026 12:01 pm (Space/Science)

Eventually, one has to just admit it. podrock April 6, 2026 8:08 pm (CurrentEvents)

North Korea by TB October 21, 2011 4:23 pm

Trouble in paradise by TB October 21, 2011 11:05 am

New "Robin Hood Tax" by RobVG 2011-10-22 08:51:00
- My kids used to like the Disney "Robin Hood" movie. by TB 2011-10-22 09:55:54
Wealth redistribution, cont. by TB 2011-10-21 19:57:05

Some of the 1 % stands with 99% by Eri October 21, 2011 5:19 am

So how long before they begin going after the 2%...3%...4%...5%...etc? by Lee 2011-10-21 13:35:55
- All this "1 percent" stuff is raw idiocy. by TB 2011-10-21 15:19:51
Did you notice what they had in common? by TB 2011-10-21 07:15:26
- Yes, they're all right-thinking individuals (as in left brain rational). by Eri 2011-10-21 09:02:45
  - All of them in that article are young people who inherited all their wealth. by TB 2011-10-21 09:22:38
    - You're clawing at sand and it's giving way beneath you. Many made their own money, the article talks about ... by Eri 2011-10-21 10:14:58
      - I don't play in sand, Eri. I work on granite. by TB 2011-10-21 10:32:25

Sic Semper Tyrannis by Jeff-Wash October 20, 2011 9:59 am

Gaddafi's sin. Did you ever wonder why the West went after Gaddafi? "Gaddafi says looking at oil firm nationalization." http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/01/21/us-libya-gaddafi-oil-idUSTRE50K61F20090121 You mess ... by bowser 2011-10-20 20:50:36
Ding dong, the warlock is dead. by Eri 2011-10-20 18:38:50
There will be a lot more information on this, but it's going to take a while for the news chaff ... by TB 2011-10-20 12:54:34

Are you smarter than an "occupier?" by TB October 18, 2011 1:48 pm

What do they want? I can't figure that out! Do they want EASIER work, and MORE money with it? At least the 1960's ... by Jeff-Wash 2011-10-19 12:39:03

Ron Paul to balance the budget by the 3rd year of his presidency by RobVG October 17, 2011 10:31 pm

I hate to state the obvious, but then I guess it's not so obvious to people who ignore reality. ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-19 21:24:42
- I know what your saying but if you lay off a government worker making $75,000, whose taxes are say around ... by RobVG 2011-10-20 10:08:03
  - You also have to calculate the reduced demand in the economy by that person's vastly diminished spending power. You ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 15:32:44
    - I understand you, I really do by RobVG 2011-10-20 19:56:06
- No government job pays more taxes into the system than it uses up. Think about it. by TB 2011-10-20 10:06:15
  - We've got 9% unemployment. We've got one job for every five people unemployed. This is not the ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 15:26:05
    - So cutting government jobs is going to shrink the tax base? by TB 2011-10-20 15:30:51
      - Wow. Can you read? The tax base point was only one element I mentioned, but you latch onto ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 15:44:13
        
        You can keep repeating it. It isn't going to help. by TB 2011-10-20 16:04:17
        
        Still trying to drill into your head my point: regardless, when no one is spending in the economy the ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-20 19:42:11
        
        "It’s been done many times successfully so any claims it has not are wrong." Name two. And before you pop ... by TB 2011-10-20 20:34:57
        
        I'm really bored with this round and round BS. we've had this conversation. I've shown you proof of ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-21 23:32:49
        
        Okay, let me get this straight: by TB 2011-10-22 09:36:39
        
        No you don't get it straight. As always. The time to cut government IS when the budget is ... by BuckGalaxy 2011-10-23 13:58:13
        
        Any politician who is standing over a $1.3 trillion deficit and thinks the government still isn't spending enough not only ... by TB 2011-10-23 15:12:31
Actually, some of his ideas aren't bad. But he'll never get elected with this budget plan. Everybody wants cuts ... by Eri 2011-10-18 00:30:04
- "...Everybody wants cuts until it comes to their piece of the pie." Boy, you nailed that one. This attitude is ... by TB 2011-10-18 08:12:10

The succession of the Dalai Lama by TB October 17, 2011 6:06 pm

Far out, man! by TB October 17, 2011 5:48 pm

Hanging on to the status quo by RobVG 2011-10-19 09:41:04
Is there any reason for having speed limits? Should speeding be treated any differently than marijuana possession? After ... by bowser 2011-10-17 20:41:54
- Both marijuana and alcohol (in the form of wine) have medicinal benefits. My glass of wine a day raises ... by Eri 2011-10-18 00:41:06
- That recreational drugs can be harmful is undeniable. But tossing people into jail for using them seems to me ... by TB 2011-10-17 20:54:43
  - And how are they any different from speeding, gambling, running stop signs, prostitution, etc., and so on. Or are the only ... by bowser 2011-10-17 21:25:27
    - They're not in the same category, and it's a lot more complicated than "victimless crimes" vs. "crimes against property." Someone who ... by TB 2011-10-18 08:22:35
    - Was that a low blow? n/t by RobVG 2011-10-17 21:59:48
      - Yeah, it probably was. I get a bit frustrated with two general types of crimes, victimless and crimes against ... by bowser 2011-10-17 22:29:01

Cain would benefit greatly from his 9-9-9 plan by Eri October 16, 2011 5:53 am

Interesting. by TB 2011-10-18 14:17:36
I look at tax laws from a civil rights perspective. by Lee 2011-10-17 18:09:39
Interesting. Most of the concern seems to be less about economic growth than the nagging fear that somebody, somewhere, ... by TB 2011-10-16 12:45:39
- You're still missing the point. The man comes up with a tax plan that will benefit him but will ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:36:46
  - No, you're missing the point. by Lee 2011-10-17 10:32:16
    - I've already made the point many times that the wealthy in this country are paying for the vast majority of ... by TB 2011-10-17 11:11:26
  - You're missing the point. by TB 2011-10-17 07:40:34
    - I talk regularly to someone who lives half the year in Greece and the other half in Canada. What ... by Eri 2011-10-17 14:23:39
      - As someone now living in British Columbia, Canada, I like Cain. I would vote for him. In fact, I think that some ... by Jeff-Wash 2011-10-19 12:46:34
      - In that case, everything in Greece and Europe should be great. There's LOTS of money left in Europe to ... by TB 2011-10-17 14:29:39
        
        He's from Canada and is retired. His wife is Greek and he's part Greek. He's been spending a ... by Eri 2011-10-17 16:45:22
He scares me too Eri by RobVG 2011-10-16 11:01:35
- I could never vote for a candidate that opposed all abortion. Like you said he could not get it done ... by FrankC 2011-10-16 12:33:45
  - We all might be surprised how much a truly right wing extremist on social issues could get done just by ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:40:40
    - "We all might be surprised how much a truly right wing extremist on social issues could get done just by ... by TB 2011-10-17 07:29:46
- I have my own problems with Cain's specifics. by TB 2011-10-16 11:14:25
  - An interesting side effect of eliminating the personal interest deduction is the disappearance of usury controls. Consumer interest was capped ... by FrankC 2011-10-16 12:17:40
  - I think 999 was designed to set Cain apart. by RobVG 2011-10-16 11:47:44
    - Exactly right. But unless you believe that the wealthy have tax shelters to greatly lower their income, the “rich” are going ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:44:29
Note that his system taxes capital gains, just as normal income. by TB 2011-10-16 06:41:33
- It does NOT tax capital gains. That is the point of the article. Cain’s 9–9-9 proposal has kicked off fierce ... by Eri 2011-10-16 09:32:56
  - You might be right. I am finding nothing specific on it either way. by TB 2011-10-16 10:05:18
    - Yep, when that tax rate was peaking was when I sold my rental property. by Eri 2011-10-16 21:51:21
    - I have never understood the reluctance of liberals to recognize the facts demonstrated in that chart. I try to keep ... by FrankC 2011-10-16 11:03:36
      - It's one of many facts. by TB 2011-10-16 11:06:24
        
        That includes increasing taxes on consumers by RobVG 2011-10-16 12:44:22
        
        The consumers who might have purchased a new car will simply put new tires on the old one, forgo purchasing ... by Eri 2011-10-16 21:54:49
        
        Do you think nearly half of this country should pay no Federal income taxes? What happens when that gets ... by TB 2011-10-16 13:07:58
        
        No I don't n/t by RobVG 2011-10-16 14:50:17

Calling for a "declaration of national emergency" by TB October 14, 2011 4:10 pm

Military advisors into Uganda by TB October 14, 2011 1:46 pm

I realize the Zone's right-wing Realpolitik pundits have been busy worrying about other things lately, but the Chinese have been ... by ER 2011-10-15 07:34:23
- Anybody who thinks ER would have written that for a Republican president, especially that last paragraph, twinkles up, please! by TB 2011-10-15 07:42:22
  - Ah, yes. Can't beat me on the facts. So shoot the messenger. 8) by ER 2011-10-15 07:44:14
    - "Ah, yes. Can’t beat me on the facts. So shoot the messenger." by TB 2011-10-15 07:59:43
      - "Head exploding?" What a colorful, and yes, Conservative metaphor. No Tom. I've seen this coming. For ... by ER 2011-10-15 09:27:49
        
        That song lyric is almost fifty years old. by TB 2011-10-15 10:00:33
        
        Yeah, and it was prophetic, wasn't it? by ER 2011-10-15 10:54:58
        
        By the way, who the heck do you think "people like me" actually are? by TB 2011-10-15 11:16:35
        
        You got it, Tom. If things didn't work out for you, it wasn't my fault. "Self-employed entrepreneurs don’t get unemployment ... by ER 2011-10-15 11:50:50
        
        You didn't pay much. by TB 2011-10-15 12:12:44
        
        Like I said. I don't make the rules, but I play by the rules. But I don't like ... by ER 2011-10-15 12:24:40
        
        I sympathize. by TB 2011-10-15 12:42:35
        
        To the mousie, it don't matter who's at fault. And by the time you get your new instructions, its ... by ER 2011-10-15 13:09:59
        
        Of course it's not your fault. by TB 2011-10-15 11:58:16
        
        As with the other song you posted, the lyrics are basically senseless rhythm. He was going for "Beat" back ... by TB 2011-10-15 11:06:10
        
        Well maybe you should try listening to it again. This time, listen to the words. I'm not the one who's ... by ER 2011-10-15 11:19:30
        
        P.S. by TB 2011-10-15 11:17:53
        
        Government deficit spending isn't the only form of national self-indulgence, waste and greed. It's just the one the Right ... by ER 2011-10-15 13:16:26
        
        "Profit" has a meaning. It means there's more wealth at the end than you started with. Even somebody ... by TB 2011-10-15 14:25:55
        
        Hey, weren't we talking about what a swell idea it was to put troops into Africa? by TB 2011-10-15 14:28:27
        
        THey have diamonds there. by ER 2011-10-15 14:35:03
        
        Mostly Uganda has coffee. by TB 2011-10-15 14:53:39
Now what could possibly go wrong with that? by ER 2011-10-14 15:56:09
- You have to admire him for trying to please everybody. I'm not sure if it was the right or left but ... by FrankC 2011-10-14 17:27:04
Wiley Coyote would know better than that. What the hell is that guy trying to do, destroy Bush's legacy??!! Arf by bowser 2011-10-14 14:06:08
- Might be fishing for another Peace Prize. by TB 2011-10-14 15:44:02
  - Suicide watch for our resident extremists. by FrankC 2011-10-14 15:47:51

9-9-9 = a bigger piece of your pie by Eri October 13, 2011 11:42 am

We are in the midst of a recession caused by reducing taxes on the wealthy, their investment in hedge funds, ... by bowser 2011-10-13 13:21:44
- "We are in the midst of a recession caused by reducing taxes on the wealthy, their investment in hedge funds, ... by TB 2011-10-13 15:41:50
  - What amazes me is the Conservatives' ability to blind themselves to the Real World. As they chop holes in ... by Eri 2011-10-13 17:52:22
    - Remarkable. It's like watching Neo doing "bullet time." by TB 2011-10-13 18:39:59
- Belongs under TB just below, will move after lunch. by bowser 2011-10-13 13:23:00
As for taxes, I have my own issues with Cain's specifics, although his principles are right. by TB 2011-10-13 12:32:03
- "Consumption" taxes are inherently unstable by RobVG 2011-10-14 18:11:00
  - Yeah, but incomes tend to dry up during an economic downturn, too. States with income taxes aren't getting the ... by TB 2011-10-14 18:51:53
    - If someone perceives that they might possibly lose their job at some point in the future, that's usually enough to ... by RobVG 2011-10-15 10:28:31
      - There are over six million fewer private employees paying income tax today than there were in January of 2008. ... by TB 2011-10-15 10:42:55
And yet Cain is currently very popular among Tea Party supporters, conservatives, and Republicans in the South. by TB 2011-10-13 11:54:12
- The Tea Party just loves green. "If you're a corporation, own a small business or count yourself among the ... by bowser 2011-10-13 12:17:42

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