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How old is the Creationist universe, anyway? by ER February 20, 2014 7:50 am
  • We-e-ell . . . by DanS 2014-02-20 13:10:04
    • Another reason for the six thousand figure, according to medieval Christianity, by ER 2014-02-20 14:08:41
      • 72 virgins . . . by DanS 2014-02-20 17:17:01
    • The Aussie Dr who debated Nye by FrankC 2014-02-20 12:40:49
      • Turns out there are all kinds of Creationists. by bowser 2014-02-20 08:20:35
        From The Onion... by FrankC February 11, 2014 7:27 pm
        • Here ya go Frank: by RobVG 2014-02-12 20:42:36
          • Political racism is not necessarily a result of ideology. by ER 2014-02-14 07:35:14
            • This thread wasn't about "political" racism. by RobVG 2014-02-15 00:00:45
              • You're right on top of things, Rob. by ER 2014-02-15 17:18:42
                • Damn. by RobVG 2014-02-15 18:01:18
                  • Beep beep, umm beep beep, yeah by ER 2014-02-15 18:48:52
            • What does a rasist look like . . . ? by DanS 2014-02-13 05:54:57
            • No one ever said conservatives are usually racist. by ER 2014-02-11 21:02:26
              • ...and no one promised anyone a rose garden. by Jody 2014-02-15 17:07:41
                • Can you really believe anything you read in the Onion . . . ? by DanS 2014-02-12 04:49:11
                  • You're right! No one would have ever thought it, said it, or implied it. Perish the thought! by bowser 2014-02-12 01:47:03
                    • Satire: Humor that mocks human weaknesses or aspects of society... by FrankC 2014-02-12 00:26:19
                      • My second comment (about the Onion) was satirical. Or at least, ironic. by ER 2014-02-12 05:51:52
                    We have targets within America by SteveS February 4, 2014 7:59 am
                    • Extreme aggression calls for extreme action . . . by DanS 2014-02-04 11:27:56
                      • Walk softly indeed by SteveS 2014-02-04 13:35:58
                        • End of times theology is not limited to Iranian wackofundos. by ER 2014-02-04 13:58:53
                      • Salami, Salami, Baloney by ER 2014-02-04 09:22:11
                        • Everything you say applies to Israel, not Iran. by bowser 2014-02-04 22:09:59
                          • Now I know how Obama must feel. by ER 2014-02-05 04:54:56
                            • It's tougher - - - by bowser 2014-02-05 16:49:08
                        • The US is complicit in killing Iranians all over the world. by bowser 2014-02-04 08:12:43
                          Border Security by ER February 2, 2014 7:14 pm
                          • Comparable to our medical system. by bowser 2014-02-02 21:46:02
                            Corporate government (capitalism unbridled) by FrankC January 14, 2014 7:47 pm
                            • US waives laws in order to use Chinese-made parts on F-35. by bowser 2014-01-16 03:21:16
                              • Not only is it relevant, it has a long and honorable history. by ER 2014-01-16 08:13:43
                                • I'm trying for a metals argument here . . . by DanS 2014-01-24 12:31:35
                              • Neither the US nor China is communist or capitalist. by bowser 2014-01-14 23:19:42
                                • I'll just say you are partly correct and leave the heavy lifting... by FrankC 2014-01-15 01:23:27
                                • Communism, or the lack of it, has nothing to do with it. by ER 2014-01-14 20:10:43
                                  • No doubt, but . . . by DanS 2014-01-15 12:38:18
                                    • When the Trojan War was fought, neither Athens nor Sparta existed. by ER 2014-01-15 14:28:35
                                      • Begging to differ . . . by DanS 2014-01-16 11:04:31
                                        • BBC documentary by TB 2014-01-16 12:45:21
                                          • Begging the Question. by ER 2014-01-16 12:35:19
                                            • In a hurry . . . by DanS 2014-01-16 16:23:48
                                              • It could be whalesong, but more likely its just fatigue. by ER 2014-01-16 17:41:56
                                              • Wrapped in myth and legend . . . by DanS 2014-01-16 12:52:34
                                        • At the start of WWII the US manufacturing power made the outcome obvious. by bowser 2014-01-14 21:52:35
                                        Chomsky implies Obama is a corporate lacky by FrankC January 13, 2014 3:34 pm
                                        • Well, yeah by Robert 2014-01-14 12:30:59
                                          • aren't they all? (n/t) by podrock 2014-01-13 20:50:03
                                            • I keep on telling you righties... by ER 2014-01-13 18:58:16
                                              • Chomsky has two problems. by bowser 2014-01-13 19:28:41
                                              Anyone this brave? by bowser January 7, 2014 3:54 pm
                                              • Answer: Not worth one American life, one American dollar. All wasted for Bush-Cheney egos. Profitable for their cronies, while America cheered. by bowser 2014-01-09 10:36:58
                                                • If only the world would agree with peace. (n/t) by DanS 2014-01-11 08:24:56
                                                  • If peace were profitable, America would be peaceful. Unfortunately - - - by bowser 2014-01-11 21:08:01
                                                • Yes, I saw that one . . . by DanS 2014-01-08 07:10:32
                                                  • When the military entered Iraq tells the entire story. by bowser 2014-01-08 15:07:58
                                                    • No . . . by DanS 2014-01-08 15:56:12
                                                      • Check the actions. Then call back. If you're brave enough. by bowser 2014-01-08 19:07:33
                                                        • Scary . . . by DanS 2014-01-08 19:24:08
                                                          • You are done. by bowser 2014-01-08 23:26:42
                                                    • Sorry, I don't agree with that either. by ER 2014-01-08 09:39:10
                                                      • just a couple of things... by FrankC 2014-01-08 18:01:55
                                                        • Yes, they WERE that gullible. by ER 2014-01-08 21:23:20
                                                          • It was a comedy of errors by FrankC 2014-01-09 01:31:13
                                                            • No successful colonial power dismantles the police and other civil structure. by bowser 2014-01-08 23:33:16
                                                          • All true . . . by DanS 2014-01-08 11:41:30
                                                            • Iraq was our big counter to Iran in the region. by ER 2014-01-08 12:06:11
                                                              • An excellent point, ER. (n/t) by DanS 2014-01-08 15:48:00
                                                        Right wing response to the Rolling stone piece by FrankC January 9, 2014 2:43 pm
                                                        • It really steams me when the right wing quotes George Orwell. by ER 2014-01-09 15:21:16
                                                          • I suspect that liberals have plucked quotes from conservatives by FrankC 2014-01-09 16:33:26
                                                            • I'll be the first to admit... by ER 2014-01-09 17:26:13
                                                          One third of Americans do not believe in evolution. by ER January 4, 2014 11:28 am
                                                          • Funny . . . by DanS 2014-01-06 12:23:59
                                                            • The controversy about evolution isn't about religion. by ER 2014-01-07 06:04:41
                                                              • Of course. by bowser 2014-01-06 20:33:24
                                                                • . . . And so, as with scientists the world over, they continue to decipher that "unknowable" plan. (n/t) by DanS 2014-01-06 21:37:37
                                                              • And how many Americans are Conservative. by bowser 2014-01-04 18:23:12
                                                                • I don't know by Jody 2014-01-04 11:57:45
                                                                  • Yield to the logic of the situation. by ER 2014-01-04 13:14:29
                                                                  • What they believe or what they are told to believe... by FrankC 2014-01-04 11:39:18
                                                                    • Be sure to click through to the actual poll. by TB 2014-01-04 12:17:24
                                                                      • Political ideology is not physics. by ER 2014-01-04 12:52:05
                                                                        • Really? by TB 2014-01-04 13:19:12
                                                                          • Yeah, really. by ER 2014-01-04 13:55:08
                                                                            • Nice. by TB 2014-01-04 14:25:32
                                                                              • The social "sciences" by ER 2014-01-04 15:16:08
                                                                      • Correlation is not the same as causation. by ER 2014-01-04 11:53:53
                                                                        • But then why the change? by Robert 2014-01-04 11:52:28
                                                                          • Religiously may be static... by FrankC 2014-01-04 13:38:20
                                                                            • When cultures feel threatened... by ER 2014-01-04 12:09:33
                                                                          Liberal economic ideas by TB January 4, 2014 12:48 pm
                                                                          • Oh what power the genie give us, but to see ourselves as others see us!!! by bowser 2014-01-05 22:32:28
                                                                            • Hard to see how anyone would not find that offensive by FrankC 2014-01-04 21:55:27
                                                                              • This kind of childlike mind: by TB 2014-01-05 10:05:06
                                                                                • Ha! This was basically what I was going to point out and say! by Jody 2014-01-05 10:25:51
                                                                                  • You can join his club! by TB 2014-01-05 10:59:38
                                                                                • "What childlike mind conjures up such silliness?' by ER 2014-01-05 06:44:20
                                                                                  • How do you mean... by Jody 2014-01-05 10:32:47
                                                                                    • Because you are him. Only a generation separates you. by ER 2014-01-05 11:51:13
                                                                                      • It is true I don't know much about history... by Jody 2014-01-05 13:46:22
                                                                                        • There's always fog, Jody. by TB 2014-01-05 15:16:08
                                                                                          • Every single one. by ER 2014-01-05 15:51:13
                                                                                            • Stay on the track. by TB 2014-01-05 16:07:25
                                                                                              • I'm right on track. Yours. by ER 2014-01-05 17:03:37
                                                                                                • As always... by TB 2014-01-05 19:38:22
                                                                                                  • Yeah, I read it, and he is an idiot. by ER 2014-01-05 19:53:04
                                                                                                    • Definitions by TB 2014-01-05 21:06:05
                                                                                                      • Can you define "obsessed"? by ER 2014-01-06 06:57:19
                                                                                                        • "Sermons" by TB 2014-01-06 12:10:29
                                                                                                          • I must concede, you have been rather subdued--lately. by ER 2014-01-06 12:26:28
                                                                                                            • "Malicious teasing and outright provocation" by TB 2014-01-06 13:03:44
                                                                                                              • Robert is more charitable than I am. by ER 2014-01-06 13:14:40
                                                                                          • There are at least two kinds of history. Maybe more. by ER 2014-01-05 14:44:25
                                                                                            • More. by Jody 2014-01-05 16:17:54
                                                                                              • Life is like surfing. by ER 2014-01-05 17:10:26
                                                                                  • TB, you have to remember! by bowser 2014-01-04 18:21:56
                                                                                    • That's two. Can we get a hat trick? by TB 2014-01-04 18:50:50
                                                                                    • If wishes were horses then beggars would ride. by Jody 2014-01-04 16:11:29
                                                                                      • Wasn't 'blow' a 80's thing? by SteveS 2014-01-04 14:20:22
                                                                                        • The author is an idiot. I've read his stuff before. by TB 2014-01-04 14:37:58
                                                                                        • Those all sound like great ideas to me. by ER 2014-01-04 13:05:26
                                                                                          • Me too. My esteem for millenials continues to grow. by Robert 2014-01-04 18:55:35
                                                                                            • Nah. They'll sell out just like we did. by ER 2014-01-05 06:45:57
                                                                                              • Bingo. by TB 2014-01-04 19:06:41
                                                                                                • You're welcome ;-) by Robert 2014-01-04 22:15:40
                                                                                              • Calibration complete. by TB 2014-01-04 14:28:47
                                                                                              In conjunction with Tom's post written by Jesse the Kid. by Jody January 5, 2014 10:39 am
                                                                                                Does the Pope understand? by Jody January 2, 2014 10:25 am
                                                                                                • Hah, hah, hah, hah!!! by bowser 2014-01-02 22:51:39
                                                                                                  • So... by Jody 2014-01-03 14:39:57
                                                                                                    • If I missed the topic, what was it? by bowser 2014-01-04 10:13:27
                                                                                                  • I think the pope needs to keep his mouth shut. by Jody 2014-01-02 15:59:49
                                                                                                    • It looks like the Pope has the Right sweating bullets... by ER 2014-01-02 17:24:53
                                                                                                      • I have no idea what the right thinks by Jody 2014-01-02 17:37:24
                                                                                                    • Yeah, its terrible how the rich are picked on. But... by ER 2014-01-02 11:17:49
                                                                                                      • Napoleon Bonaparte by ER 2014-01-02 13:16:20
                                                                                                        • PJ O'Rourke by Robert 2014-01-02 13:30:58
                                                                                                          • "Tax the rich, feed the poor... by ER 2014-01-02 14:33:25
                                                                                                        • "Stupidity is far more dangerous than evil, for evil takes a break from time to time, stupidity does not." by TB 2014-01-02 12:04:13
                                                                                                          • I'm sorry. That is a completely stupid comment.` by bowser 2014-01-02 22:55:22
                                                                                                            • JFK by ER 2014-01-02 13:06:18
                                                                                                              • Good. by TB 2014-01-02 14:43:17
                                                                                                                • Yes, and thank you for Your service. by ER 2014-01-02 15:36:34
                                                                                                                • Oh wow... by Jody 2014-01-02 14:33:04
                                                                                                                  • I don't think JFK was talking about charitable donations. by ER 2014-01-02 14:39:41
                                                                                                                    • Actually, he was talking foreign aid. In both of these quotes. by TB 2014-01-02 15:46:20
                                                                                                                      • No, it was really all about guillotines. by ER 2014-01-02 16:00:34
                                                                                                              • “You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar” by Jody 2014-01-02 11:58:45
                                                                                                                • Technically untrue . . . by DanS 2014-01-04 04:34:22
                                                                                                                  • Thomas Jefferson by ER 2014-01-02 13:07:24
                                                                                                                    • The actual quote: by TB 2014-01-02 14:58:56
                                                                                                                      • Tom was heavy stuff, Tom. (n/t) by DanS 2014-01-04 04:37:43
                                                                                                                        • Sally Hemmings' part got edited out too. by ER 2014-01-02 15:39:38
                                                                                                                          • That's how history is lied about. by TB 2014-01-02 16:04:06
                                                                                                                            • All quotes are taken out of context. by ER 2014-01-02 16:22:49
                                                                                                                              • Then don't use quotes to make your points. by TB 2014-01-02 16:37:35
                                                                                                                                • The fundamentals of tyranny and and freedom change continuously. by ER 2014-01-02 16:52:18
                                                                                                                        • I love his mansion, Monticello! by Jody 2014-01-02 14:37:03
                                                                                                                          • Yes, his slaves kept it spotless! by ER 2014-01-02 14:41:30
                                                                                                                            • I know, right? by Jody 2014-01-02 16:05:09
                                                                                                                              • If you knew... by ER 2014-01-02 16:23:53
                                                                                                                                • Heh by Jody 2014-01-02 17:33:28
                                                                                                                                  • So was I. by ER 2014-01-02 18:09:27
                                                                                                                                    • I would have no need to "brief" Jefferson on anything. by TB 2014-01-02 19:51:40
                                                                                                                                      • I'd tell him about Vaginal ultrasound probes. by ER 2014-01-02 20:32:10
                                                                                                                                        • Make that $1000. by TB 2014-01-02 21:22:34
                                                                                                                                          • There isn't the slightest doubt in my mind Mr J and I would get along just fine. by ER 2014-01-02 21:46:37
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