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Universal healthcare and slavery by bowser July 19, 2013 3:16 pm

Slavery and health care... by ER 2013-07-21 19:11:56
Realistically, everyone who is not self-employed is a slave. (jumping in late, here) by ER 2013-07-21 18:53:30
I started a thread Bowser...about the Teamsters and Obamacare on Flame... by Jody 2013-07-19 19:34:21
- My post is about the similarity of the people who promoted slavery and oppose universal health care. by bowser 2013-07-20 00:29:47
  - Well awrighty then sugar smacks...I'll be back by Jody 2013-07-20 15:00:08
    - Jody, it never hurts to touch base with reality from time to time by Robert 2013-07-21 15:11:14
      - Touch base with reality? by Jody 2013-07-21 18:02:16
        
        Probably not by Robert 2013-07-22 11:44:36
        
        I have issues with QED by Jody 2013-07-22 15:26:31
        
        Do I feel the government is evil? by Jody 2013-07-23 08:03:05
        
        QED is an acronym for a phrase in Latin meaning something like "Thus it is proven". by ER 2013-07-22 20:51:39
        
        *giggle* Now that I can wrap my head around. :) by Jody 2013-07-23 08:12:39
        
        Q.E.D. by TB 2013-07-22 16:11:59
        
        Latin: "That which has been demonstrated". by bowser 2013-07-22 23:21:30
        
        Thank you TB...that is the best explanation yet! by Jody 2013-07-22 20:11:34
        
        My personal understanding of QED by FrankC 2013-07-22 21:27:50
        
        Thank you Frank! by Jody 2013-07-23 08:11:52
        
        Best explanation of "infer" and "imply" I've found... by TB 2013-07-22 20:27:15
        
        Thanks Tom! You are right...it is an easy to remember explanation. n/t by Jody 2013-07-23 08:11:18
      - P.S. I noticed a remarkable gap in that Wikipedia article. Did you? by TB 2013-07-21 17:53:18
      - Not "government" Robert. A certain vision of it. by TB 2013-07-21 17:24:58
        
        The problem is that it's your vision by Robert 2013-07-22 11:55:16
        
        Just for fun... by TB 2013-07-22 14:07:37
      - Tom's post is not trite, it is extremely clever... by FrankC 2013-07-21 16:03:48
        
        Dogwhistle rhetoric by Robert 2013-07-21 17:17:22
        
        Discussion by TB 2013-07-21 17:42:00
        
        Which one of us were you addressing with that little post? by Robert 2013-07-22 11:46:22
        
        Real discussion involves occasionally changing the subject. by ER 2013-07-21 19:32:20
        
        Actually read the damn thread. I didn't start this. by TB 2013-07-21 20:51:06
        
        Apparently, you don't want to talk about what I want to talk about. by ER 2013-07-21 21:09:19
        
        Not only trite, but off the point, irrelevant, misleading. by bowser 2013-07-21 16:17:17
    - Jody, it never hurts to remember what slavery actually IS. by TB 2013-07-21 12:22:03
      - You do. McDonalds or the military. Some choice, eh? by bowser 2013-07-21 15:16:11
        
        Well, that wasn't trite at all. by TB 2013-07-21 18:00:29
        
        No, but it was right on target. by ER 2013-07-21 18:54:47

Obamacare and the Teamsters by Jody July 19, 2013 5:11 pm

Another article that actually explains what the Unions want, instead of just cherry picking a number of quotes like NRO by BuckGalaxy 2013-07-22 18:18:38
- Letter by TB 2013-07-22 19:16:37

Now I've seen it all. by RobVG July 18, 2013 9:53 pm

The real point of all this... by TB 2013-07-19 21:43:21
Did you know that in (whacky, conservative, libertarian...) Utah, all gas stations sell their gas for the same price? by alcaray 2013-07-19 15:53:08
- Not sure who told you Utah was libertarian. by TB 2013-07-19 16:21:33
  - I know that when libertarians were talking about taking over a state, Utah was on the list of prospectives. by alcaray 2013-07-19 17:44:58
    - And I'm quite familiar with the tricks you have to go through to get a decent drink in Utah. by alcaray 2013-07-19 17:47:08
      - I drive through Wendover on the way to the Midwest. by TB 2013-07-19 19:41:33
      - They have beer cocktails. Seriously. by alcaray 2013-07-19 17:48:05
- I take back part of what I said. by alcaray 2013-07-19 16:10:39
There is a significant link between the mindsets shown in these stories and what happened to Detroit. by TB 2013-07-19 12:17:30
- Which is that it was raped by the folks who buy debt. Banks, etc. by bowser 2013-07-19 15:18:02
Washington DC by Robert 2013-07-19 07:59:43
- I notice you dodged a point. by TB 2013-07-19 19:51:31
- The law was specifically targeted at WalMart. by TB 2013-07-19 11:13:08
  - wrong by Robert 2013-07-19 14:33:58
    - Save it for the rubes. by TB 2013-07-19 14:49:18
      - "everyone knows" by Robert 2013-07-19 18:40:44
        
        Everyone with a working brain. by TB 2013-07-19 19:33:21
        
        That would seem to exclude you by Robert 2013-07-19 20:42:20
        
        It was in the version I found, linked in a comment below. by TB 2013-07-19 21:23:59
        
        Once again by Robert 2013-07-20 11:13:17
        
        P.S. by TB 2013-07-20 11:56:32
        
        Derailing by TB 2013-07-20 11:45:59
      - You are a rube. Seriously, TB, "Mysteries of the Multiverse" was created for you. by bowser 2013-07-19 15:19:11
        
        Well-reasoned response, especially the supporting links. by TB 2013-07-19 15:20:04
      - Another version: by TB 2013-07-19 15:18:05
- ... by ER 2013-07-19 10:56:47
  - ditto health care by Robert 2013-07-19 11:08:41
    - Who does pay for single-payer then if the "oligarchs" aren't? by TB 2013-07-19 11:23:04
      - Surely you're not unfamiliar with the concept of an insurance pool? by Robert 2013-07-19 14:36:21
        
        Individual citizens? Do they know that yet? by TB 2013-07-19 15:10:30
You ain't seen nothing yet. by ER 2013-07-19 05:18:27
I'm surprised by your response. by bowser 2013-07-18 22:49:34
- I don't think so. by RobVG 2013-07-19 17:20:16
- A bit more on the Whole Foods project: by TB 2013-07-19 11:39:07

The F-35 - Why other countries are bailing out. by bowser July 14, 2013 6:03 pm

Here is a link that might shed some light by Jody 2013-07-17 18:01:18
Pentagon lowers F-35 performance bar by bowser 2013-07-15 17:56:06
- The development cycle. by ER 2013-07-16 06:01:38
  - This one is so far behind that some say the Russians and Chinese have passed it. by bowser 2013-07-17 11:49:38
    - Prove it. by Jody 2013-07-17 17:48:30
      - 11-09-11 F-35 officially 7 years late. Operating capability not until 2018. by bowser 2013-07-19 18:01:22
    - By hacking our computers and stealing technology. by Jody 2013-07-17 12:33:34
      - Shocking! We wouldn't do that. by ER 2013-07-17 15:28:31
It is true there has been alot of cost over runs, but it is a very complicated program. by Jody 2013-07-15 15:59:42
The big train that could... by FrankC 2013-07-15 11:07:37
American Foxbat by ER 2013-07-15 05:54:41
- "Highly paid Defense Industry workers" by TB 2013-07-15 09:04:11
  - Is there some reason some workers shouldn't be highly paid? That offends you, doesn't it. by bowser 2013-07-15 17:59:29
    - The point, and there was one... by TB 2013-07-15 19:08:23
      - I sure was wrong on that one. My sincere apologies. by bowser 2013-07-15 19:14:04
        
        No problem. by TB 2013-07-15 19:23:04
  - Give me a break, Tom. by ER 2013-07-15 09:55:57
    - You don't handle this stuff very well, do you? by TB 2013-07-15 11:48:10
      - What stuff? by ER 2013-07-15 12:59:27
        
        Intellectual rebuttal, for one, either delivering or accepting it. by TB 2013-07-15 16:51:07
        
        So it was Clinton's fault, eh? by ER 2013-07-15 18:16:30

For the denialists in the crowd by alcaray July 19, 2013 9:32 am

I know you meant to inform by Jody 2013-07-19 11:16:52
- See Steve's post below for some illumination of what a denialist (concerning this topic) is. by alcaray 2013-07-19 12:34:57
  - The Pennsylvania Voter ID law was not in force for the 2012 election. by TB 2013-07-19 12:41:49
    - What does what you said have to do with my post? by alcaray 2013-07-19 12:47:16
      - That just maybe Gleason might be wrong about the cause of the margin differences? by TB 2013-07-19 13:03:33
        
        Wrong or right, the point was about the intention of the voter laws. Enough rabbit-holing for me. by alcaray 2013-07-19 14:03:42
Voter ID by SteveS 2013-07-19 11:04:14
- Synergy: by TB 2013-07-19 14:34:44

Stop Big Government! Let the people choose if they want... by BuckGalaxy July 17, 2013 9:34 am

There are already a lot of dumb people (and politicians) in Utah. by alcaray 2013-07-17 16:57:05
- They might be better off illiterate. No Joseph Smith, Moroni, golden plates and so on. by bowser 2013-07-17 21:30:09
What do you expect from Planet Kolob? by ER 2013-07-17 15:26:44
- Codicil by Robert 2013-07-17 16:04:53
Ummm...as I understand it by Jody 2013-07-17 12:05:49
"Let’s let them choose it, let’s not force them to do it"n/t by Jody 2013-07-17 11:09:37
- Compulsion by TB 2013-07-17 17:04:05
  - The Public Education System has produced people like me. by ER 2013-07-18 05:47:52
    - Oh for cryin' out loud ER by Jody 2013-07-18 12:46:22
    - Yes. Yes it has. by TB 2013-07-18 08:41:45
      - Talkin' 'bout straw men... by ER 2013-07-18 09:56:11
        
        Heh. The Master of the Three-Page Tirade instructs me. by TB 2013-07-18 10:33:00
        
        Point by point by ER 2013-07-18 14:50:05
      - You're not hard to deal with at all. by ER 2013-07-18 09:45:17
  - Crap piled upon crap, lies, deceit, totally irresponsible. You CANNOT believe that. by bowser 2013-07-17 21:27:53
- I don't think choice is a crazy thought. I am all for choice. I am not crazy. by Jody 2013-07-17 11:10:34

A contemporary political stance with a sordid history. by bowser July 17, 2013 11:47 am

*Ouch* by Jody July 12, 2013 2:26 pm

At least her head is not firmly lodged up... by SDAI-Tech 2013-07-14 17:08:22
I could feel her passionate angst. I admire her strength. by Jody 2013-07-13 18:15:04
Interesting. Clare Daly is a radical leftist. by TB 2013-07-12 14:36:52
- As is every registered Democrat. by bowser 2013-07-12 17:47:19
  - I would consider you a radical leftist Bowser. by Jody 2013-07-12 20:38:13
    - I consider me a radical leftist. by bowser 2013-07-13 00:23:13
      - Bowser...The one thing that you and I have in common however is... by Jody 2013-07-13 18:16:54
        
        On my limited behalf - - - by bowser 2013-07-14 18:05:22
        
        I know Bowser. by Jody 2013-07-14 18:11:07
  - Just some of the most important ones. by TB 2013-07-12 19:11:50
  - You know what they say... by ER 2013-07-12 18:07:49

Whatever happened to the Marines. by bowser July 12, 2013 4:11 pm

Lt. Gen Lewis "Chesty" Puller, USMC, must be spinning in his grave. by ER 2013-07-12 17:04:02

No further comment necessary by ER May 4, 2013 12:48 pm

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The Zimmerman case is asinine by RobVG June 28, 2013 7:27 pm

The jury can be offered many different crimes to consider. by bowser 2013-06-29 09:07:45
- Good. by RobVG 2013-06-29 09:28:27
I like to think that it's murder because the prosecutors think they can make a case for murder. by alcaray 2013-06-28 23:22:55
- I think what Rob and I are concerned about... by ER 2013-06-29 05:02:15
  - I understand you and Rob completely. by alcaray 2013-06-29 10:09:11
Right. by bowser 2013-06-28 20:50:30
I agree, at least from what I've learned so far. by ER 2013-06-28 20:40:22

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