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What's happening May 1st by TB April 23, 2012 1:46 pm
    National Debt Road Trip, updated by TB April 20, 2012 10:21 pm
    • Speaking of lifeboats, the Bush family has purchased a 100,000 acre spread in Paraguay. No one knows why. Here is ... by bowser 2012-04-21 04:55:12
      • Paraguay,eh? Not surprising. I've heard the historical and recent convergence of right-wing political and business interests there described ... by ER 2012-04-21 08:26:16
        • The source of this story is a Cuban state newspaper. by TB 2012-04-21 10:00:14
          • Just because it originates in a Commie paper doesn't mean it has to be a lie. In fact, if ... by ER 2012-04-21 11:06:33
            • I dare you to leave that comment up there. by TB 2012-04-21 11:11:36
              • Dare me? by ER 2012-04-21 13:58:29
                • Billy Joel!!!!Hell yes!!! by Jody 2012-04-21 14:09:53
                  • "That’s right, TB. It MIGHT be a lie, but it doesn’t HAVE to be one. That is a subtle distinction, ... by TB 2012-04-21 14:07:15
                    • The point I was making was that truths and lies may be ideologically correllated, but they are by no means ... by ER 2012-04-21 14:14:46
                      • A world where your POV doesn't have to be true at all seems to be comfortable for a lot of people. by TB 2012-04-21 17:58:36
                        • EDITED: by ER 2012-04-21 20:23:19
                          • EDITED: I'd be interested in your definition of "Trotskyite," since nobody as yet seems to have developed a consistent or sensible one. by TB 2012-04-21 21:07:35
                            • The problem is that there is no objective way to distinguish "errors of knowledge" from "deliberate rejection of reality". Just imagine ... by ER 2012-04-21 22:11:19
                              • We're not arguing about how many angels can dance on the end of a pin. by TB 2012-04-21 22:29:02
                                • Tom, underneath all your righteous handwaving, all you're really saying is "the way you are doing things doesn't work so ... by ER 2012-04-21 22:41:47
                                  • The deficits are a trillion a year. the debt has exceeded GDP. by TB 2012-04-21 22:51:22
                              • A Trotskyite is simply a follower of Trotsky. It probably started out as a perjorative term because Trotsky and ... by ER 2012-04-21 22:01:27
                                • And there's the problem:" by TB 2012-04-21 22:17:01
                                  • Maybe the state can provide nothing, it can only redistribute what is created privately. But the private sector has also ... by ER 2012-04-21 22:32:56
                                    • None of that changes anything about the fundamental flaw of "democratic" wealth redistribution. by TB 2012-04-21 22:44:18
            • Should be under ERs post. by bowser 2012-04-21 04:55:51
            • The debt picture painted by conservatives is so dire that it appears that there is no possible action or policy ... by ER 2012-04-21 04:53:49
              • You just need to look at historical spending patterns to know what created these deficits and the debt. by TB 2012-04-21 10:52:56
                • You don't make me crazy, TB. I've got this culture sussed. It works for me. It's why I make you ... by ER 2012-04-21 11:20:01
                  • What scares me is an intelligent person who will choose belief over facts. by TB 2012-04-21 21:43:36
                    • The fact we have severe budget problems is not in dispute. It never was. Your insistence in accusing me of ... by ER 2012-04-22 07:48:07
                      • Yeah. Like that. by TB 2012-04-22 11:15:16
              • Why don't you just give it up until you can explain how starting two wars while cutting taxes on the ... by bowser 2012-04-20 22:51:22
                • It's not the elite I worry about. They are predictable, they will do whatever it takes to protect themselves, and ... by ER 2012-04-21 05:31:37
                The Real Cause of Global Warming by ER April 20, 2012 9:32 pm
                • Mexican food, maybe. Oops, there goes another methane shot... by TB 2012-04-20 21:51:54
                  • This outfit isn't about either immigration or the environment. And they don't believe this nonsense any more than you ... by ER 2012-04-21 08:04:35
                    • Karl Rove didn't invent that idea. Alinsky did. by TB 2012-04-21 11:25:34
                      • He started it, mommy. by ER 2012-04-22 11:00:12
                  ...a new low... by Jody April 22, 2012 10:21 am
                    Just sayin' by Jody April 21, 2012 11:08 am
                    • Inane spending. The last time the US was invaded was in 1811 by England. There WAS Pearl Harbor ... by bowser 2012-04-21 11:33:19
                      • For more fun... by TB 2012-04-21 11:17:11
                        • My mistake... by TB 2012-04-21 12:45:49
                        Romney's strength is the economy. by bowser April 19, 2012 5:23 pm
                        • The economy is not just weak, its unstable. Most people, once they take off the ideological blinders, are smart ... by ER 2012-04-19 18:21:35
                          • Doesn't matter...won't matter...Obama is gonna win. by Jody 2012-04-19 17:59:28
                            • Wait for it. by TB 2012-04-19 19:02:22
                              • Liberal Elitist? Moi? by ER 2012-04-20 05:55:08
                                • "Ideas matter. Principles matter. "Reality matters." (Coming from a Conservative.) Swift Boats. Please discuss the above in the context of ... by bowser 2012-04-19 23:21:33
                                  • In other words... by TB 2012-04-20 08:27:14
                                    • The same people are funding Romney. Just when do principles expire? After 7 years, 6 years. 5 years? ... by bowser 2012-04-20 09:48:09
                                      • You can't reason with a child throwing a tantrum. A little public humiliation through ridicule sometimes gets through though. by ER 2012-04-20 09:19:15
                                        • :) by Jody 2012-04-20 09:04:33
                                      • *Sees sparks start to smoulder in firepit* Time for the centrist fireman to step in. by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-19 23:16:21
                                        • You might need more information. by TB 2012-04-20 08:54:48
                                          • Of which sort? by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-20 18:47:18
                                    "Obama tightens oil and gas drilling regulations" by RobVG April 19, 2012 9:19 am
                                    • As we move from the infinite to the finite it becomes clear there have to be regulations. Examples: Space - ... by bowser 2012-04-19 11:35:19
                                      • I don't see how tightening environmental regulations can be a political ploy, although loosening them could certainly be so, especially ... by ER 2012-04-19 09:52:55
                                        Where the billionaires come from by TB April 18, 2012 4:29 pm
                                        • Sure TB, but we don't want to loot just the top 400. We want to loot the top 1%. by ER 2012-04-18 18:10:44
                                          • You've forgotten, of course, but we did the math on that, too. by TB 2012-04-18 18:26:58
                                            • No Tom. You've forgotten I don't need to argue about this. The math "we" did says I have ... by ER 2012-04-18 18:43:54
                                              • No. The math says the well is dry. by TB 2012-04-18 18:56:17
                                                • The well ain't dry yet. I can always put my wife to work. by ER 2012-04-18 19:01:17
                                                • Just an observation, but Conservatives see Liberals as down right jealous of the rich.Bottom Line. To Liberals...Conservatives want everyone to step ... by Jody 2012-04-18 18:53:43
                                                  • The real bottom line: by TB 2012-04-18 19:34:57
                                                    • I was talking about your average Joe Q. Citizen, Tom. I know it is about power.... Not for me, though. by Jody 2012-04-18 19:42:30
                                            Another problem with the FBI. And no one is held accountable. by bowser April 16, 2012 12:14 am
                                            • Americans are known throughout the world as being determined to crush your carpals and yank your arm out of its ... by ER 2012-04-17 17:40:11
                                              • Some of these issues later in the article are important, but the "shake hands" thing just sounds like a ham-handed ... by TB 2012-04-16 07:31:36
                                                • That is an interesting document. Read the entire thing. Had an interesting thing happen at the hospice. ... by bowser 2012-04-18 15:29:36
                                                Another complaint. by bowser April 15, 2012 3:43 pm
                                                • We have a plethora of hispanics that offer lawn services and there is a price war right now due to ... by Jody 2012-04-16 08:37:07
                                                  • An unusual scientifical facktoid: A group of hammerhead sharks and a group of Hispanics are known by the same ... by bowser 2012-04-16 10:17:09
                                                    • Guess you guys never saw the movie.... I don't think his plethora has been removed yet. by Jody 2012-04-16 15:39:30
                                                      • I belong to a bevy of bitches. by Jody 2012-04-16 14:42:44
                                                        • I had my plethora surgically removed. Does that mean I'm still hispanic? by ER 2012-04-16 10:53:44
                                                          • Can't really say...drop yer drawers...lemme see. by Jody 2012-04-16 14:43:31
                                                            • "When in doubt, by ER 2012-04-16 19:50:30
                                                              • The Nuge is huge. I prefer Beat It...by Michael Jackson.;) by Jody 2012-04-17 07:08:45
                                                                • I prefer Whip It. Whip it Good. (Devo) by ER 2012-04-17 07:20:41
                                                            • Well, as you know, the plethora is easy to remove once they get through all that brain tissue. Quite ... by bowser 2012-04-16 13:05:28
                                                        • I feel your pain by RobVG 2012-04-15 22:03:42
                                                          • Get a goat. by Jody 2012-04-15 19:37:49
                                                            • I've had goats, great animals, wonderful. And while they will eat blackberry leaves, cedar seedlings, celery, tomatoes and tomato ... by bowser 2012-04-16 00:29:34
                                                              • Most of the "grazing services" around here use sheep. by TB 2012-04-16 07:39:56
                                                                • Great idea. Did you know that goats make great pack animals? They have to be selected, some won't ... by bowser 2012-04-16 10:11:52
                                                            • Don't you know you're not supposed to fix things yourself? by podrock 2012-04-15 19:29:29
                                                              • Just don't mow the thing. It'll look a lot cooler and more "natural"; like your very own miniature park! by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-15 19:09:00
                                                                • Every screw that's larger than it needs to be to do its job wastes money and resources. by TB 2012-04-15 17:06:36
                                                                  • Size doesn't matter, it's the tensile strength. n/t by RobVG 2012-04-15 22:06:14
                                                                    • Good point, but most commercial screws are made from similar materials. by TB 2012-04-16 07:25:32
                                                                      • Between Home Depots supply and NASAs needs are those from an industrial supply house which will have screws and bolts ... by bowser 2012-04-16 09:48:45
                                                                  Business Insider - "15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America" by bowser April 13, 2012 1:10 am
                                                                  • My first thought about the disappearance of the middle class is outsourcing of jobs. Shit isn't something like 42,000 factories that ... by Jody 2012-04-13 17:55:49
                                                                    • What JimH said. (A commenter to the article Bowser linked to) by ER 2012-04-13 09:09:22
                                                                      • Comments are closed now. Too bad. by TB 2012-04-13 09:50:30
                                                                        • I would suggest you aim your rebuttals at the devastating facts and statistics in Bowser's original post instead of squandering ... by ER 2012-04-13 10:21:43
                                                                          • What, refute the numbers, methodology, sources, or premises? by TB 2012-04-13 11:13:37
                                                                            • I think you're starting to catch on. by ER 2012-04-13 11:25:41
                                                                              • Did you care to address any of the points I made? by TB 2012-04-13 11:27:09
                                                                                • TB, this is about the point I made. You really aren't involved in this. You unabashedly advocate a ... by bowser 2012-04-13 11:50:22
                                                                                  • Did you care to address any of Bowser's? by ER 2012-04-13 11:37:26
                                                                                    • We really can't expect that. As I said, he supports the idea of a plutocracy, and I was asking ... by bowser 2012-04-13 13:20:25
                                                                                      • Oh for cryin outloud Bowser...I will answer your Flame the way I see fit...when I have the time. It won't be ... by Jody 2012-04-13 15:26:56
                                                                                        • You don't need to be religious, and you don't need to be black to love gospel music. by ER 2012-04-13 13:35:43
                                                                                          • Always liked that song, and it just isn't done well by whites. by bowser 2012-04-13 13:44:15
                                                                                        • After the past few days, you need yet another demonstration? There's nobody home. by TB 2012-04-13 11:44:00
                                                                                          • I'll let Bowser argue his own case. My comment on his post is below. by ER 2012-04-13 11:48:40
                                                                            • In any highly complex system, like a national economy, all sorts of unexpected or emergent behaviors may arise. Some ... by ER 2012-04-13 05:47:06
                                                                              Our tax dollars at work by TB April 13, 2012 3:38 pm
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