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Romney's strength is the economy. by bowser April 19, 2012 5:23 pm
  • The economy is not just weak, its unstable. Most people, once they take off the ideological blinders, are smart ... by ER 2012-04-19 18:21:35
    • Doesn't matter...won't matter...Obama is gonna win. by Jody 2012-04-19 17:59:28
      • Wait for it. by TB 2012-04-19 19:02:22
        • Liberal Elitist? Moi? by ER 2012-04-20 05:55:08
          • "Ideas matter. Principles matter. "Reality matters." (Coming from a Conservative.) Swift Boats. Please discuss the above in the context of ... by bowser 2012-04-19 23:21:33
            • In other words... by TB 2012-04-20 08:27:14
              • The same people are funding Romney. Just when do principles expire? After 7 years, 6 years. 5 years? ... by bowser 2012-04-20 09:48:09
                • You can't reason with a child throwing a tantrum. A little public humiliation through ridicule sometimes gets through though. by ER 2012-04-20 09:19:15
                  • :) by Jody 2012-04-20 09:04:33
                • *Sees sparks start to smoulder in firepit* Time for the centrist fireman to step in. by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-19 23:16:21
                  • You might need more information. by TB 2012-04-20 08:54:48
                    • Of which sort? by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-20 18:47:18
              "Obama tightens oil and gas drilling regulations" by RobVG April 19, 2012 9:19 am
              • As we move from the infinite to the finite it becomes clear there have to be regulations. Examples: Space - ... by bowser 2012-04-19 11:35:19
                • I don't see how tightening environmental regulations can be a political ploy, although loosening them could certainly be so, especially ... by ER 2012-04-19 09:52:55
                  Where the billionaires come from by TB April 18, 2012 4:29 pm
                  • Sure TB, but we don't want to loot just the top 400. We want to loot the top 1%. by ER 2012-04-18 18:10:44
                    • You've forgotten, of course, but we did the math on that, too. by TB 2012-04-18 18:26:58
                      • No Tom. You've forgotten I don't need to argue about this. The math "we" did says I have ... by ER 2012-04-18 18:43:54
                        • No. The math says the well is dry. by TB 2012-04-18 18:56:17
                          • The well ain't dry yet. I can always put my wife to work. by ER 2012-04-18 19:01:17
                          • Just an observation, but Conservatives see Liberals as down right jealous of the rich.Bottom Line. To Liberals...Conservatives want everyone to step ... by Jody 2012-04-18 18:53:43
                            • The real bottom line: by TB 2012-04-18 19:34:57
                              • I was talking about your average Joe Q. Citizen, Tom. I know it is about power.... Not for me, though. by Jody 2012-04-18 19:42:30
                      Another problem with the FBI. And no one is held accountable. by bowser April 16, 2012 12:14 am
                      • Americans are known throughout the world as being determined to crush your carpals and yank your arm out of its ... by ER 2012-04-17 17:40:11
                        • Some of these issues later in the article are important, but the "shake hands" thing just sounds like a ham-handed ... by TB 2012-04-16 07:31:36
                          • That is an interesting document. Read the entire thing. Had an interesting thing happen at the hospice. ... by bowser 2012-04-18 15:29:36
                          Another complaint. by bowser April 15, 2012 3:43 pm
                          • We have a plethora of hispanics that offer lawn services and there is a price war right now due to ... by Jody 2012-04-16 08:37:07
                            • An unusual scientifical facktoid: A group of hammerhead sharks and a group of Hispanics are known by the same ... by bowser 2012-04-16 10:17:09
                              • Guess you guys never saw the movie.... I don't think his plethora has been removed yet. by Jody 2012-04-16 15:39:30
                                • I belong to a bevy of bitches. by Jody 2012-04-16 14:42:44
                                  • I had my plethora surgically removed. Does that mean I'm still hispanic? by ER 2012-04-16 10:53:44
                                    • Can't really say...drop yer drawers...lemme see. by Jody 2012-04-16 14:43:31
                                      • "When in doubt, by ER 2012-04-16 19:50:30
                                        • The Nuge is huge. I prefer Beat It...by Michael Jackson.;) by Jody 2012-04-17 07:08:45
                                          • I prefer Whip It. Whip it Good. (Devo) by ER 2012-04-17 07:20:41
                                      • Well, as you know, the plethora is easy to remove once they get through all that brain tissue. Quite ... by bowser 2012-04-16 13:05:28
                                  • I feel your pain by RobVG 2012-04-15 22:03:42
                                    • Get a goat. by Jody 2012-04-15 19:37:49
                                      • I've had goats, great animals, wonderful. And while they will eat blackberry leaves, cedar seedlings, celery, tomatoes and tomato ... by bowser 2012-04-16 00:29:34
                                        • Most of the "grazing services" around here use sheep. by TB 2012-04-16 07:39:56
                                          • Great idea. Did you know that goats make great pack animals? They have to be selected, some won't ... by bowser 2012-04-16 10:11:52
                                      • Don't you know you're not supposed to fix things yourself? by podrock 2012-04-15 19:29:29
                                        • Just don't mow the thing. It'll look a lot cooler and more "natural"; like your very own miniature park! by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-15 19:09:00
                                          • Every screw that's larger than it needs to be to do its job wastes money and resources. by TB 2012-04-15 17:06:36
                                            • Size doesn't matter, it's the tensile strength. n/t by RobVG 2012-04-15 22:06:14
                                              • Good point, but most commercial screws are made from similar materials. by TB 2012-04-16 07:25:32
                                                • Between Home Depots supply and NASAs needs are those from an industrial supply house which will have screws and bolts ... by bowser 2012-04-16 09:48:45
                                            Business Insider - "15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America" by bowser April 13, 2012 1:10 am
                                            • My first thought about the disappearance of the middle class is outsourcing of jobs. Shit isn't something like 42,000 factories that ... by Jody 2012-04-13 17:55:49
                                              • What JimH said. (A commenter to the article Bowser linked to) by ER 2012-04-13 09:09:22
                                                • Comments are closed now. Too bad. by TB 2012-04-13 09:50:30
                                                  • I would suggest you aim your rebuttals at the devastating facts and statistics in Bowser's original post instead of squandering ... by ER 2012-04-13 10:21:43
                                                    • What, refute the numbers, methodology, sources, or premises? by TB 2012-04-13 11:13:37
                                                      • I think you're starting to catch on. by ER 2012-04-13 11:25:41
                                                        • Did you care to address any of the points I made? by TB 2012-04-13 11:27:09
                                                          • TB, this is about the point I made. You really aren't involved in this. You unabashedly advocate a ... by bowser 2012-04-13 11:50:22
                                                            • Did you care to address any of Bowser's? by ER 2012-04-13 11:37:26
                                                              • We really can't expect that. As I said, he supports the idea of a plutocracy, and I was asking ... by bowser 2012-04-13 13:20:25
                                                                • Oh for cryin outloud Bowser...I will answer your Flame the way I see fit...when I have the time. It won't be ... by Jody 2012-04-13 15:26:56
                                                                  • You don't need to be religious, and you don't need to be black to love gospel music. by ER 2012-04-13 13:35:43
                                                                    • Always liked that song, and it just isn't done well by whites. by bowser 2012-04-13 13:44:15
                                                                  • After the past few days, you need yet another demonstration? There's nobody home. by TB 2012-04-13 11:44:00
                                                                    • I'll let Bowser argue his own case. My comment on his post is below. by ER 2012-04-13 11:48:40
                                                      • In any highly complex system, like a national economy, all sorts of unexpected or emergent behaviors may arise. Some ... by ER 2012-04-13 05:47:06
                                                        Our tax dollars at work by TB April 13, 2012 3:38 pm
                                                          The Scottish verdict by ER April 12, 2012 4:50 am
                                                          • Imagine how hard it must be to find an unbiased jury.... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-12 21:38:28
                                                            Pick the group by TB April 12, 2012 10:28 am
                                                            • Actually, I liked all three. I can't give any a complete thumbs up, the same comment I made about ... by ER 2012-04-12 16:13:42
                                                              • About the highlighter: Actually, I can't see any point I couldn't support in general. I might withold judgement ... by ER 2012-04-12 16:18:54
                                                                • Addendum: Upon closer inspection... I cannot support these two items. The first violates my position on freedom of speech, the second ... by ER 2012-04-12 16:35:21
                                                                  • Don't work too hard on it. I nailed my point quite a while ago. by TB 2012-04-12 19:54:47
                                                                    • Hey, I got no problems with ducks by ER 2012-04-12 20:00:21
                                                              • A little hint: by TB 2012-04-12 15:39:42
                                                                • That reminds me... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-12 14:26:09
                                                                  • I wouldn't mind seeing it. by TB 2012-04-12 15:48:37
                                                                    • True, dat. I shall be sure to do so. by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-12 21:32:34
                                                                  And I thought it was 57 by ER April 12, 2012 5:33 am
                                                                  • They truly believe that. It takes a loose mind to stretch that far, a mind capable of believing anything ... by bowser 2012-04-12 13:41:25
                                                                    • Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire? by ER 2012-04-12 14:21:34
                                                                    • Actually, it's more like 76. by TB 2012-04-12 07:47:37
                                                                      • No, Tom, you've got it wrong. by ER 2012-04-12 08:30:51
                                                                        • I've watched those two videos and I can't see any substantive difference between them, other than he mumbles something about ... by ER 2012-04-12 09:03:55
                                                                          • BTW, I once played softball at a Socialist Workers Party of America 4th of July picnic (my girlfriend at the ... by ER 2012-04-12 09:18:04
                                                                            • I don't know. Is your name proudly displayed on the DSA membership lists? by TB 2012-04-12 09:42:32
                                                                              • Tom, I can't help what you want and I have no control over what you believe. But that doesn't ... by ER 2012-04-12 11:06:05
                                                                                • Bigfoot isn't real. Pelosi, Ellison, and Obama are. That makes a difference. by TB 2012-04-12 11:26:17
                                                                                  • The only real difference is YOU don't like Pelosi, Ellison and Obama. And why should I base my likes and ... by ER 2012-04-12 12:11:14
                                                                      The Flame Board! by TB April 12, 2012 8:04 am
                                                                      • Hah! I posted this on Facebook! by Jody 2012-04-12 11:06:41
                                                                        • A typical TB post. Impressive, unbelievable, funnier 'n' hell, a great addition to the HZ. That was truly ... by bowser 2012-04-12 10:44:05
                                                                          On engineering, government, and complex fixes by TB April 11, 2012 12:10 pm
                                                                          • It would be nice to fix everything at once, but humans don't have that kind of foresight. One thing ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-04-11 22:15:50
                                                                            • Start here: by TB 2012-04-12 08:20:15
                                                                            • You and ER agreeing on something? *Checks outside for burning rain* by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-11 19:39:33
                                                                              • Actually, he's trying to set me up by using my own words against me. Just follow this thread a little ... by ER 2012-04-11 20:07:20
                                                                                • Subtlety can sometimes be a liability here. by TB 2012-04-11 20:13:04
                                                                                  • You'd think by now you'd realize you're not being very successful at communicating your ideas. That could be the result of ... by ER 2012-04-11 20:19:35
                                                                                    • Hey now... Calm down before you guys say something you regret later. After all, it doesn't matter who's wrong or ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-04-11 21:27:50
                                                                                      • Like this? by podrock 2012-04-12 05:42:48
                                                                                        • The easiest way I found is to go to the YouTube page for a video. by TB 2012-04-12 07:53:19
                                                                                          • One caveat: by TB 2012-04-12 08:23:58
                                                                                      • There are other possible options. by TB 2012-04-11 20:45:20
                                                                                        • Sure. All your critics could be dead wrong and just stubbornly refuse to listen to your logic. by ER 2012-04-11 21:21:22
                                                                                          • Heh. Bingo. by TB 2012-04-11 21:42:51
                                                                                            • Squeeeeeek... by TB 2012-04-11 21:43:44
                                                                                • Simple answer: Treat law like software. by Robert 2012-04-11 14:26:31
                                                                                  • Everything you say is undoubtedly true. But the problem of the engineer is very different from that of the ... by ER 2012-04-11 13:41:23
                                                                                    • Predictable? by TB 2012-04-11 14:55:16
                                                                                      • One example of the problem here. by TB 2012-04-11 14:59:17
                                                                                        • It all matters where you draw the line. We draw it in different places. But that line must ... by ER 2012-04-11 15:47:12
                                                                                          • When you finally understand there is self-interest on both sides of this issue, the discussion can proceed. by TB 2012-04-11 15:58:24
                                                                                            • I have no doubt there is self-interest involved on both sides. I just think one side has more motivation, ... by ER 2012-04-11 17:52:41
                                                                                              • "I just think one side has more motivation, resources, organization, experience and history with bending public opinion to their purposes. ... by TB 2012-04-11 18:03:08
                                                                                                • Be careful, TB. You've recognized that similarities in partisan rhetoric suggest that political speech may be more a function ... by ER 2012-04-11 19:36:30
                                                                                                  • What I hoped you'd notice is that, historically, governments match that description far more than businesses do. by TB 2012-04-11 20:06:24
                                                                                                    • Yeah, right. Socialized Medicine is the first step to the Gulag. by ER 2012-04-11 20:15:43
                                                                                                      • We weren't discussing socialized medicine. by TB 2012-04-11 20:43:47
                                                                                                        • Sure Tom. And any form of social welfare, will automatically steer us in this direction. If your ludicrous comparison was ... by ER 2012-04-11 21:34:13
                                                                                                          • We weren't discussing socialized medicine. by TB 2012-04-11 21:40:28
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