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The old king--Bob Dylan at 80. ER June 14, 2026 4:19 pm (Off-Topic)

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I saw "Disclosure Day" today. ER June 12, 2026 8:00 pm (Science Fiction)

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Baseball mascot fail by TB July 4, 2011 11:28 am

What next, a spa? by Eri July 4, 2011 5:29 am

Go get 'em, boy! by Eri July 4, 2011 5:22 am

I have a friend who earns a little extra money by giving historic graveyard tours. She dresses up in authentic Victorian ... by ER 2011-07-04 08:44:43

Protest fail by TB July 3, 2011 8:23 pm

And another anti-regulation rally comes to a tragic end. Will people never learn? Some regulations are just GOOD ... by Eri 2011-07-04 05:10:59
- If we're going to have the government control people solely to protect them from their own stupidity, there's no endpoint ... by TB 2011-07-04 07:17:21

The Case of the Aging Detective by TB July 3, 2011 8:10 pm

My vote's for Travis McGee. He still haunts the bayous and the sloughs here, ageless, but world-weary. " ... by ER 2011-07-04 13:53:02
Nick & Nora were my favorite sluething duo. by Lee 2011-07-04 11:18:03
- They were cool as was Asta! That was the original funny dog. by Eri 2011-07-04 11:27:30
ROFLMAO! Maybe they'll revisit Magnum PI when he is using a walker and armed with a stun gun and a cattle ... by Eri 2011-07-04 05:20:55

Is anything working these days? Has it ever worked? by Jody July 2, 2011 3:49 pm

S.S.D.D. Same Shit Different Day, I guess. Thanks Zoners you have helped me put this into perspective. Still sucks. by Jody 2011-07-03 12:26:43
I can't remember a time when the country wasn't heading for disaster. No, I do believe we have serious ... by ER 2011-07-03 06:04:51
- Walking is the process of continually heading for a fall...and never quite falling. by Robert 2011-07-03 11:56:26
  - Then again, maybe Americans are just whining crybabies who have never had to put up with hard times (or at ... by ER 2011-07-03 13:12:04
    - Looking at all these replies, it seems pretty simple: The good old days were good because it was a young person ... by TB 2011-07-03 13:34:59
      - I've read several convincing SF tales that have tackled the implications of longevity, both for individuals as well as implemented ... by ER 2011-07-03 14:32:21
        
        For an immortal, the "this too shall pass" attitude would definitely have to be accompanied by a serious network of ... by TB 2011-07-03 14:54:13
        
        Great premise for a novel there, if you don't want me to steal it, say so now, or forever hold ... by ER 2011-07-03 20:05:58
        
        Hardly original with me. Neil Gaiman had several such characters in his spectacular "Sandman" series, the most well known ... by TB 2011-07-03 20:15:06
  - OK, I'm just going to go jump in the currently highly risen Missouri River. A girl named Logan in a more ... by Eri 2011-07-03 12:31:05
    - Hang in there. Rivers rise, rivers fall. Don't build in a flood zone. I remember reading Michener's "Chesapeake" years ago. ... by TB 2011-07-03 13:24:16
- Good post. And sometimes I do wonder how much of this kind of thinking is just us getting old. My ... by TB 2011-07-03 07:27:24
  - Yeah TB...I think you are right...it is my age. Plus the fact I am a melancholy baby. Being empathic doesn't help. ... by Jody 2011-07-03 12:30:16
I get the "sinking ship" feeling sometimes too, though for reasons probably quite different from your own. But if we ... by mcfly 2011-07-02 22:27:13
This country is not ticking. Unless you want to count the time bomb that is ticking. Worse times ... by Eri 2011-07-02 21:47:02
We need to be vigilant, but don't overdo it. It's not "Mad Max," and not likely to be. Most everything ... by TB 2011-07-02 20:44:52

Writer's observation by TB July 2, 2011 8:41 am

Very true. Ever heard of Moses Wine, the hippie private eye? Great stuff. They even made a ... by ER 2011-07-02 12:28:54
- Laugh if you will, but I bet you could sell it. by TB 2011-07-02 12:47:31

Such stuff as dreams are made of... by TB June 30, 2011 3:39 pm

The Romans considered actors to be on par with prostitutes and the like. Not much has changed over the ... by Lee 2011-07-01 17:05:06
Dude was in theater. I don't see how they could think he didn't. by mcfly 2011-06-30 18:58:36
- I don't see why this should be such a shocker, Cocaine had probably been brought back to Europe from the ... by ER 2011-06-30 19:37:02
  - All this crap was legal (mostly), and somehow we not only avoided extinction, but created Western civilization. Go figure. As ... by TB 2011-06-30 21:03:31
    - Maybe we created western civilization BECAUSE we had access to mind-expanding substances from all over the world. Remember, the Age of ... by ER 2011-07-01 05:17:25
      - Sooo.... is this proof that we should legalize drugs? Ther are numerous arguments for and against this, and I'm ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-07-01 23:01:55
        
        There are no valid arguments for legalization. It's all drug induced fantasy. Allowing drugs is just another example of ... by Lee 2011-07-02 09:48:45
        
        However...do you have any idea what a problem prescription drugs are? Unfortunately, I do. The problem is bigger than any one ... by Jody 2011-07-02 11:28:28
        
        Nobody is saying drug addiction isn't a problem. So is alcoholism. The point is, the current approach isn't ... by TB 2011-07-02 12:06:37
        
        The main reason it isn't working is because we aren't even trying. Pop culture is allowed to glorify and ... by Lee 2011-07-02 19:42:36
        
        I was immersed in all that stuff, and hey, I'm not gay, a drug user, or any of that other ... by TB 2011-07-02 20:30:11
        
        Ahhh...sorry...almost got on an extended soapbox rant...this subject sends me into orbit...as if you couldn't tell. ...and a vehement NO NO ... by Jody 2011-07-02 14:59:10
        
        From National Review by TB 2011-07-02 12:09:01
        
        It's delightful to see that even the National Review is starting to expose Bill Bennett for the pious humbug and ... by ER 2011-07-02 12:43:24
        
        Let's forget for a moment whether or not we should make drugs illegal. Forget whether or not drugs actually ... by ER 2011-07-02 07:36:09
        
        Your last sentence is a bit twonky. A black market is basically a free market that's been interfered with, ... by TB 2011-07-02 08:01:10
        
        "You’d think we would have learned something from Prohibition." Whoops. There I go again! :) by TB 2011-07-02 08:03:31
        
        “You’d think we would have learned something from Prohibition.” Why did you go to the trouble of picking out that ... by ER 2011-07-02 08:34:36
        
        Hello? Joke? Do I have to pull up all your posts where you go "why did you take ... by TB 2011-07-02 08:43:00
        
        I wasn't making an accusation. I knew you were just making a joke. I just didn't get it. ... by ER 2011-07-02 09:04:31
        
        On a serious note, I think we SHOULD legalize drugs. Regulate and tax them. Our revenue problems would ... by Eri 2011-07-01 23:13:39
        
        For drugs like marijuana, there is no logical reason for treating it any differently legally than we treat alcohol and ... by TB 2011-07-02 06:24:19
        
        You're right, there are no logical reasons, but there are plenty of other reasons why this essentially benign weed should ... by ER 2011-07-02 07:56:52

Bruce Springsteen's eulogy for Clarence Clemons by TB June 29, 2011 9:54 pm

Brown eyes/Blue eyes by Jody June 29, 2011 5:12 pm

Try this one. The original story links here. I first read it in the CoEvolution Quarterly years ago. This ... by TB 2011-06-29 18:06:00
- Wow....that is disturbing. The really sad part is that I wanted to fit in so bad at that age...that I, ... by Jody 2011-06-29 19:46:21
  - That your Human? That you want to feel a sense of belonging and kinship? by Lee 2011-06-29 20:53:41
Thanks for making my point. by Lee 2011-06-29 17:25:52

Collapse of complex societies by Jody June 29, 2011 2:00 pm

Thank you for bringing that to our attention, Jody, it was excellent. I listened to the entire lecture, all ... by ER 2011-06-29 19:41:21
- It was good..I, too listened to the whole lecture...now I will ponder. by Jody 2011-06-30 10:52:41
- Not to seem like a smartass, or a jackass, or any kind of ass for that matter, but this seems ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-29 22:14:24
  - We like to point out Rome as the example of things falling apart. But remember, the Romans kept it ... by ER 2011-06-30 07:57:54
    - Rome sort of proves my first point. When the Roman Empire collapsed (Which was a VERY gradual thing), people ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-06-30 11:23:05
    - The Amish will have the last laugh. by Jody 2011-06-30 10:50:41
      - Only until someone finds oil under their land. Ask the redskins. by ER 2011-06-30 11:06:47
        
        Or until the EPA wipes them out. by TB 2011-06-30 11:26:43
    - In the first episode of "Connections," James Burke wanders out from a blacked-out city, searching for something to help him. ... by TB 2011-06-30 08:32:10
      - OK. Can you guess who said this? ***Begin Quote*** The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional ... by ER 2011-06-30 11:12:32
  - The path through all this is decentralization. I like the new focus on small, local nuclear power systems (their ... by TB 2011-06-29 22:18:27
- I didn't listen to all of them, so let me know if I've missed something key. It seems to ... by TB 2011-06-29 21:05:13
  - Yeah, but Pournelle's observation is somewhat akin to saying "We wouldn't have these problems if we just had enough money." ... by ER 2011-06-30 06:39:15
    - Actually, while energy is needed in growing amounts, technological progress also allows you to do more with less. While ... by TB 2011-06-30 08:19:42
  - Um...we aren't working with patterns of history here, are we? :) by TB 2011-06-29 21:08:49
    - Wouldn't surprise me. I have, at times, spouted some of the most ridiculous crap ever spouted. No one here actually has to ... by mcfly 2011-06-30 11:48:29
    - I catch your drift, O clever one, but we are picking up on general patterns, insights, clues. We are ... by ER 2011-06-30 06:18:47
This is one of the main reasons why I oppose multi-cultural/multi-ethnic societies. It adds unneeded complexity and conflict into ... by Lee 2011-06-29 16:25:38
- "multi-cultural" and "multi-ethnic" are not synonyms. We have made Americans out of many, many backgrounds. That anyone from anywhere can ... by TB 2011-06-29 18:15:39
  - Well said. by mcfly 2011-06-30 11:34:50
- So much for the melting-pot that has made America great. by podrock 2011-06-29 16:35:11
  - So instead of the knee jerk party line, why don't you debate an opposing view? Is your own worldview ... by Lee 2011-06-29 17:23:43
    - Knee-jerk? by podrock 2011-06-29 17:45:33
      - The Asians built the railroads? Did they now? Hmm, then I guess the old pictures I have of ... by Lee 2011-06-29 18:03:15

Making your IPhone look like food by TB June 28, 2011 5:02 pm

Oh hells bells...I probably would still gain weight every time I answered the damn thing. by Jody 2011-06-29 12:24:47

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