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What's really needed to combat climate change by TB March 25, 2012 3:04 pm

From the Union of Concerned Scientists by ER 2012-03-26 06:35:53
- The paper tallies about $16 million from 1998 to 2005 (8 years) that Exxon spent on its message. by TB 2012-03-26 08:32:31
  - The old TB smoke and mirrors. According to the table on your link, the government spent 32.2 billion on ALL its ... by ER 2012-03-26 10:24:34
    - You want to know who's raking it in from burning gasoline? by TB 2012-03-26 11:00:02
      - Tobacco and cancer all over again. Who profits from denying climate change? We all know. The Conservative agenda. by bowser 2012-03-26 12:38:54
      - So then, even by your logic, the government would benefit by higher and more expensive gasoline sales, and they would ... by ER 2012-03-26 11:12:19
        
        You tell me. by TB 2012-03-26 11:37:04
        
        A rise in gasoline prices does not translate to a rise in gasoline tax revenues. In fact, due to ... by ER 2012-03-26 15:25:20
        
        Good point. by TB 2012-03-26 15:53:53
        
        Well, for sure somebody's lost. by TB 2012-03-26 14:04:02
        
        And one more thing. by ER 2012-03-26 15:10:34
    - One's propaganda, the other is payoffs. by TB 2012-03-26 10:30:33
  - And a response from the George C. Marshall Institute here. by TB 2012-03-26 09:59:19
    - Fun facts about the George C Marshall Institute. by ER 2012-03-26 10:50:45
The question I've been pondering for many years is, by podrock 2012-03-25 19:06:06
- It bothers me that we are told that the solution for almost every problem, planetary or otherwise, is to accrue ... by TB 2012-03-26 00:13:06
- If the question is can a species act in the best interests of all species, I'd agree the answer is ... by bowser 2012-03-25 19:21:27
  - It wasn't a metaphor for goverments. by podrock 2012-03-25 20:47:37
    - I left out a step. Sorry. What I should have added is that this species could act in ... by bowser 2012-03-25 21:28:45
  - Here you go Bowser... by RobVG 2012-03-25 20:23:24
    - Wow. Absolutely correct in it's basic premise, I wonder what the purpose is. Talk about a futile exercise! by bowser 2012-03-25 21:40:57
Moved from the Space Science Board by podrock 2012-03-25 18:28:31
- My mistake. I thought I was putting it somewhere else. by TB 2012-03-26 00:05:07
  - Weird, I thought I read it on flame first. (n/t) by RobVG 2012-03-26 10:00:53
    - In fact, you did. When I moved it last night, I clicked the wrong box. When I double checked I ... by podrock 2012-03-26 11:07:25
    - That's where I thought I put it, but since I don't remember, I'm taking Podrock's word for it. by TB 2012-03-26 10:06:40

Afghan soldier kills two British troops. by bowser March 26, 2012 11:05 am

Arlen Spector has creepy thoughts about Sarah Palin by BuckGalaxy March 26, 2012 10:49 am

Tweeted from James Cameron by TB March 25, 2012 3:49 pm

A little more news here. by TB 2012-03-26 09:07:04
That is truly impressive. by bowser 2012-03-25 22:23:18
I can't wait see what he's sharing. Far Out! No...wait...Far In?...Far Under? Anyway, I raise my glass to the man, the ... by podrock 2012-03-25 18:09:37
- He'll get to the bottom of it all by tomorrow. by ER 2012-03-25 18:13:17
  - He may find that Silt Happens. by podrock 2012-03-25 18:35:09
  - I'm sure we'll get an in-depth report. by ER 2012-03-25 18:15:47
    - Give him time...he's under a lot of pressure right now. by podrock 2012-03-25 18:36:45
      - Hey, if we had to sit under seven miles of water, we might leak something nasty too. by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-26 01:21:47
He's in way over his head. by ER 2012-03-25 17:03:55

Odd links of the day by TB March 25, 2012 2:49 pm

Some very interesting sites there. Especially liked the "flyover" of Rome, 320 CE. by bowser 2012-03-26 08:36:18

Believing Your Own Lying Eyes Department by TB March 25, 2012 3:27 pm

Wouldn't even be "human powered" if it was real - he was just flapping his arms while the wings moved ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-26 01:25:03

"Prometheus" by RobVG March 18, 2012 11:13 am

"Alien" is an important film for the science and SF buff. There are some important philosophical points made there, ... by ER 2012-03-18 14:12:26
- ^In that case, Humanity just seems more and more boring to us and to other species.^ I don't see any good ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-23 14:18:50
- That was one of the objections to Active SETI sending signals by RobVG 2012-03-18 15:27:15
  - That was the Outer Limits episode "The Mice." by TB 2012-03-18 17:58:42
    - ya scooped me :) (n/t) by RobVG 2012-03-18 18:21:56
  - The usual conceit for old SF movies is that ET wants our resources, or our women, or they are just ... by ER 2012-03-18 16:52:22
    - One thing's for sure by RobVG 2012-03-18 18:12:56
      - I'm not sure they'll be humanoid, Rob. There's no reason they can't be, of course, but active, tool-using creatures ... by ER 2012-03-18 19:12:17
        
        I didn't say they can't have multiple... by RobVG 2012-03-18 20:50:44
        
        I believe industry modeled robots on humans because the tools used and designs of things built were already the result ... by ER 2012-03-19 07:20:00
        
        Ah, but you're assuming that all life started around 3-4 billion years ago, like it did on Earth, when in ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-23 14:16:31
        
        We can only assume the length of time for the rise of a civilization is roughly comparable, it may be ... by ER 2012-03-25 17:52:55
        
        Well said. (n/t) by podrock 2012-03-25 19:43:44

GOP budget will break the middle class by bowser March 25, 2012 12:16 am

Sounds like Cain's 9-9-9 by RobVG 2012-03-25 11:25:17
- Tax money handed out to "consumers" to help the economy is the myth. by TB 2012-03-25 13:14:06
  - I thought that's what I said in the first paragraph. (n/t) by RobVG 2012-03-25 16:39:54
The middle class has always had upper class pretensions. by ER 2012-03-25 05:28:58

The Sun Also Sets by TB March 25, 2012 3:21 pm

George Will on creative destruction by TB March 24, 2012 11:50 am

It's sad this sort of post has to be placed on Flame, by ER 2012-03-24 13:15:04
- One of the fundamental flaws in your thinking is that you can't see the difference between tens of thousands of ... by TB 2012-03-24 14:51:27
  - On creosote: by TB 2012-03-24 14:58:51
    - What "one powerful entity" could you possibly be talking about? Where have I or anyone on this forum ever suggested ... by ER 2012-03-24 17:19:47
      - Does this mean George Will isn't on your "smart conservative" list any more? by TB 2012-03-24 19:09:29
        
        My "smart conservative" list gets shorter every day. by ER 2012-03-25 05:14:41
        
        You should see my "smart liberal" Post-It. by TB 2012-03-25 10:25:40
        
        As long as there's at least one name on it, you'll never get away with it. by ER 2012-03-25 11:35:53

The etch-a-sketch gaffe will never go away by BuckGalaxy March 23, 2012 7:58 pm

My god I can't believe what a gift this is! The guy who will likely win the GOP nomination ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-03-24 19:43:44
Somehow I don't think an attack based on "flip flops" or "lack of a core" would play well for Obama ... by TB 2012-03-23 21:54:42
- You're right. The Republican candidates have already pumped that well dry. I think the Dem TV campaign will simply consist of ... by ER 2012-03-23 23:27:24
The Right will blame it all on the Big Bad Liberal media, but I noticed both Santorum and Gingrich whipped ... by ER 2012-03-23 20:30:32
Link seems broken. Try this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-etch-a-sketch-incident-and-why-some-gaffes-catch-on/2012/03/22/gIQA8ob0TS_blog.html by BuckGalaxy 2012-03-23 20:01:55

U.S. Inches Toward Goal of Energy Independence by TB March 24, 2012 4:13 pm

So how are the Republicans going to use Obama's alleged discouragement of developing domestic reserves as a weapon against him ... by ER 2012-03-24 17:32:22

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