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Taking a fresh look at terraforming Mars BuckGalaxy May 20, 2025 11:07 am (Space/Science)

It's over folks RL June 1, 2025 12:38 pm (Space/Science)

Boulder will be in your news soon. podrock June 1, 2025 3:14 pm (CurrentEvents)

Administration solves things the old fashion way BuckGalaxy June 1, 2025 11:01 am (Flame)

Lie, cheat and disable mechanisms... BuckGalaxy May 31, 2025 8:04 pm (Space/Science)

Issacman out as NASA Admin BuckGalaxy May 31, 2025 9:40 pm (Space/Science)

Big beautiful wall RobVG May 31, 2025 11:50 am (Flame)

2025 Humans to the Moon & Mars Summit May 28 and 29 BuckGalaxy May 28, 2025 2:52 pm (Space/Science)

C'mon a little closer gonna do it to you BuckGalaxy May 27, 2025 9:46 pm (Off-Topic)

Watching SpaceX Starship flight 9, 7:30pm EST BuckGalaxy May 27, 2025 3:59 pm (Space/Science)

Same old song and dance BuckGalaxy May 26, 2025 10:02 pm (Flame)

Dune books 2-7 BuckGalaxy May 26, 2025 12:46 pm (Science Fiction)

Minnesota governor rewrites a bit of history by TB July 8, 2011 9:52 am

9.2 percent by TB July 8, 2011 9:21 am

More here. Apparently next year the Democratic slogan will be "It's not the economy, stupid." by TB 2011-07-09 09:13:58

Burning coal causes global warming...unless the Chicoms do it. by Lee July 7, 2011 5:01 pm

Debt Ceiling by TB July 7, 2011 2:33 pm

Math, chemistry, engineering? by Lee July 7, 2011 9:48 am

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First off, I am a gay rights activist. THAT being said...it should not be mandatory in the sense where everyone ... by Jody 2011-07-07 14:18:57
- I asked this of one of my Mom of three school age children friends: "Ok so I took sometime to think ... by Jody 2011-07-07 17:34:06
  - You know, you can have a lot of conversations with kids about relationships without getting into sex. It's not ... by TB 2011-07-07 19:46:37
    - "I do kind of wish there was some cultural space in between putting a minority group in the dog house ... by ER 2011-07-09 07:44:02
      - One of America's unique strengths has been many years of absorbing people from all over the world, filtering out most ... by TB 2011-07-09 08:44:13
    - "I do kind of wish there was some cultural space in between putting a minority group in the dog house ... by Jody 2011-07-08 07:22:58
  - Well, as long as parent's are okay with their kid's sexuality, everything's good and fine by me. I guess ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-07-07 18:50:50
  - BTW...my Mom of three friend is gay. by Jody 2011-07-07 17:40:03
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. by mcfly 2011-07-07 09:57:03
- Learning about gays and their problems is more important than football, cheerleading, the prom, or any of the rest of ... by ER 2011-07-07 11:12:58
  - I prefer Morlock to Trog but you make a very unlikely Eloi ER One wonders sometimes if opinions sort out based ... by FrankC 2011-07-07 13:55:14
    - As I recall, (I only saw the 1st movie, never read the book)the Eloi were sort of wimpy pathetic victims, ... by ER 2011-07-07 15:01:32
      - Stereotyping: For conservatives you got John Wayne, Tom Selleck, and Bruce Willis. For Liberals there is Al Franken, Billy Crystal ... by FrankC 2011-07-07 18:20:09
        
        I'm a southern liberal, Frank. Did I say something to piss you off? I'm sorry if I did, I meant no disrespect. by ER 2011-07-07 18:53:23
        
        LOL, of course not ER, I don't lump all southern liberals together and I hardly think of you as an ... by FrankC 2011-07-07 20:09:11
        
        Thanks for the reassurance. Just for the record. I really don't believe there is any such thing as a ... by ER 2011-07-08 04:28:47
        
        That is exactly how I feel. Personally, I believe that in spite of the way we all use the terminology, anyone ... by FrankC 2011-07-08 12:40:17
        
        Well, they both did pretty well as cowboys. by TB 2011-07-08 12:44:04
        
        I assume you vote write-ins in national elections? by TB 2011-07-08 09:05:46
        
        I really don't understand what you're getting at. I vote for the individual whose victory I assess to be in the ... by ER 2011-07-08 11:37:51
  - No, it isn't. Those other things are what normal people do. They actually bring money into the school ... by Lee 2011-07-07 13:10:56
    - Let's not drift off into the ether, here. Extracurricular activities aren't exactly big income producers for most high schools, and are ... by TB 2011-07-07 13:30:57
      - Hell, let them go. California will continue to deteriorate as it rots from within. Those people who are ... by Lee 2011-07-07 13:39:43
  - Are those the only choices we get in public education? by TB 2011-07-07 11:13:46
    - Of course not. But I suspect that the choices are being framed that way for us. "Either we ... by ER 2011-07-07 11:40:24
      - The "good old days" in education seemed to work pretty well. I don't know what the real function of ... by TB 2011-07-07 12:00:29
        
        You're always going on about the Good 'Ol Days, as if the past were lined with gold leaf and the ... by mcfly 2011-07-07 13:03:33
        
        There are hard numbers behind much of what I say about schools and costs. I've posted them before. ... by TB 2011-07-07 13:15:45
        
        I'm not defending modern education. Personally, I think it sucks. My own high school had its problems, but I ... by ER 2011-07-07 12:12:31
        
        What happened was that the education system became more about the power and preservation of the education system than it ... by TB 2011-07-07 12:21:07
        
        You won't get any argument from me. As for the cultural part, I think my cousin from Cuba (he ... by ER 2011-07-07 13:10:16
        
        Just out of my own observation, if you want to see someone who gives a rip about their kids' education, ... by TB 2011-07-07 13:22:43
        
        It's not that immigrants care more about their kids' educations than Americans, its that Americans are more complacent and ambivalent ... by ER 2011-07-08 04:50:29
- Don't you mean drag queen? Schools should be about education, not re-education. by Lee 2011-07-07 10:01:08
  - Sure. Makes it a lot more difficult to round up the people you don't like when the public understands them as ... by mcfly 2011-07-07 10:10:00
    - Everyone's Human. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Teaching about and proselytizing for a deviant sexual ... by Lee 2011-07-07 13:09:15
      - So homosexuality's a mental disorder now? Or should I say, again? You were born way after your time. You could have ... by mcfly 2011-07-07 13:50:08
        
        You better hope it is a life style choice or behaviour disorder. If it's ever shown to be genetically ... by Lee 2011-07-07 14:33:05
        
        The modern Nazi, raging against human diversity in all its forms. How many 'Zoners know someone who's lived with physical ... by mcfly 2011-07-08 06:33:30
        
        Some polling on this kind of thing is discussed in this article. That's a lot of Nazis. by TB 2011-07-08 09:00:04
        
        The author sounds like she's full of it. She's absolutely mental. "While some may see this as progress, others recognize ... by Lee 2011-07-08 16:10:38
        
        That's a good article. Did you actually read it, or just scan for numbers? Consider passing it along to any ... by mcfly 2011-07-08 10:22:54
        
        The point was the poll numbers. 55 percent of Americans think abortion should be legal if the child will ... by TB 2011-07-08 12:28:12
        
        I worry about you sometimes, TB, I really do. If an issue hasn't been quantified, charted and graphed, you have ... by mcfly 2011-07-08 18:00:35
        
        You make a very good point that there's a big difference between the State commanding these actions and people choosing ... by TB 2011-07-08 18:45:00
        
        Free will has always been my view. I've said many times that the eugenic revolution will not be driven ... by Lee 2011-07-08 19:29:57
        
        And you don't want to remake society? I keep hearing liberals spout off about how America's population is changing, ... by Lee 2011-07-08 18:11:18
        
        If homosexuality is genetic, I'd think twice about messing with it. Any genetic code that is so obviously biased ... by TB 2011-07-07 14:37:31
        
        That could be said about any abnormality. by Lee 2011-07-07 15:11:29
California's leadership does have its priorities. My kids didn't get a decent look at American history until high school. by TB 2011-07-07 09:54:35
- I believe high school is the right time to teach American History. You need a certain degree of maturity ... by ER 2011-07-07 11:30:57
  - PS. I wrote my memoirs between February and April of 2001. It was one of the first things I ... by ER 2011-07-07 11:47:50
  - No American History until high school, and yet middle-school kids can apparently easily handle issues of homosexuality and transgenderism without ... by TB 2011-07-07 11:46:25
    - Perhaps transgender issues should be postponed til later, but there is also a practical side to be considered, too. ... by ER 2011-07-07 12:01:33

GOP proves it is not a governing alternative by BuckGalaxy July 5, 2011 12:39 pm

And how exactly is reducing spending by $3-$4 trillion over the next decade going to help when the projected deficits ... by Lee 2011-07-05 16:08:43
Obama had no problem voting no on raising the debt ceiling. Seems like one of the few votes he ... by Lee 2011-07-05 16:04:07
The Right wing of the Republican party are trying to provoke an economic crisis so they can blame it on ... by ER 2011-07-05 15:50:01
You have a link to the detailed plan? by TB 2011-07-05 15:35:48
- When I read today that Obama had put Medicare and Medicaid cuts on the table, I was fit to be ... by Eri 2011-07-05 15:45:38
- P.S. The Democrats have been stalling on this. Remember, they had total power for two solid years to ... by TB 2011-07-05 15:44:14
  - What is familiar is your litany about Democrats and frankly, I'm sick of it. The Republicans refuse to negotiate, ... by Eri 2011-07-05 15:52:13
    - But you see, that's not true. The Democrats did not just take office a month ago. For two ... by TB 2011-07-05 17:14:54
      - How can you trust the Dems to commit to real spending cuts when we saw exactly how they acted a ... by Lee 2011-07-07 15:05:59
      - The Republicans sure as hell aren't doing a very good job of hiding the fact that they are obstructionists hell ... by Eri 2011-07-05 20:48:29
Well, as Yogi supposedly said, "it's not over 'til it's over". And, as (I think) Mark Twain said, "The rumors of ... by FrankC 2011-07-05 14:14:55

Who wants to live forever? by Jody July 4, 2011 8:27 pm

This reminds me of a myth I once read. There was a titan named Eos who wanted Tithonius, a ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-07-06 10:43:35
- In the Museum d' Ornay was a statue by Denys Puech of the dawn goddess (Aurora in the Roman pantheon). ... by TB 2011-07-06 11:06:33
  - Young girls who tragically attempt to starve themselves into bony supermodel figures might profit by contemplating the young woman portrayed ... by ER 2011-07-07 07:01:34
  - Pretty much ANY greek or roman statue can be classified NSFW. by VelociraptorBlade 2011-07-06 23:55:26
    - Yeah, I know, but it's sort of a requirement. After looking at the Louvre, this museum was amazing. I'd never ... by TB 2011-07-07 09:03:02
What the hell do you do if you are 350 years old....still work?...that is bullshit. Life is NOT that awesome ... by Jody 2011-07-05 14:35:52
- I absolutely love every pain free moment of life, and I am going to assume that a fringe benefit of ... by FrankC 2011-07-05 15:31:14
  - You have already won my heart Frank...the door would always be open for you. All I know is what a quagmire ... by Jody 2011-07-05 18:52:18
    - Maybe if you were Albatross free, you would understand it. by Eri 2011-07-05 20:50:04
      - I have thought of that Eri. by Jody 2011-07-05 21:46:20
  - "if oblivion is unavoidable, you will hear no complaints from me" LOL! Frank, the friendly ghost. (I hope.) by Eri 2011-07-05 15:56:51
I dislike the idea of oblivion. I believe it is the Jehovah's Witness that believe that hell is in fact ... by FrankC 2011-07-05 11:42:30
- I'm not sure why oblivion is such a big deal. I spent a couple of billion years there before ... by TB 2011-07-05 14:34:17
  - I have. Your internal programming obviously degraded; otherwise, you would not have become a Republican. by Eri 2011-07-05 15:59:33
    - I didn't "become" a Republican. A few Republicans are finally starting to become me. by TB 2011-07-05 17:06:51
      - God help you all. ... .... ..... ...... to become Democrats! by Eri 2011-07-05 20:51:36
- The bible refers to it as the Second Death. I'm not sure where they got the idea of eternal ... by Lee 2011-07-05 12:23:38
  - From Republicanism. by Eri 2011-07-06 02:49:22
  - I think Dante's Inferno is the culprit for inventing Hell. by Jody 2011-07-05 14:33:31
I think its possible to extend life, by doing spot repairs and attacking specific problems and conditions. But I ... by ER 2011-07-05 04:28:41
- I have read that the max shelf life for human tissue is a tad less than 200 years. Of course, ... by FrankC 2011-07-05 15:46:59
  - That's if you want to live on a shelf. by Eri 2011-07-06 02:50:19
The theme from the Highlander which is apropos, of course. Beautiful song. Lengthy lives brings a whole scenarios of things ... by Eri 2011-07-04 22:06:09

80 Million Manufacturing Jobs Lost! by BuckGalaxy July 4, 2011 6:52 pm

Less than a decade ago, jobs started flowing from India to China, as Indian wages rose. by Robert 2011-07-05 12:40:48
- The divide between "producers" and "consumers" is largely artificial. Producers make the most money when their customers have a ... by TB 2011-07-05 15:26:42
Hmmm...some back of the cocktail napkin calculations here...a billion Chinese, about 1/2 of them work....80 million out of a job...or ... by ER 2011-07-04 19:54:49
- What we have here is the basis for WWIII, the war about commerce. The winner makes everyone else buy ... by Eri 2011-07-04 22:09:03
  - All wars are about commerce. The situation you describe, "The winner makes everyone else buy their goods and the ... by ER 2011-07-05 04:07:45

Pournelle on the military by TB July 4, 2011 1:03 pm

Classical history isn't considered relevant by many in academia today, and that's a real shame. The story of Xenophon ... by Lee 2011-07-04 17:26:36
I wonder if Jerry believes that anyone with a comparable expertise in classical history and literature to his would necessarily ... by ER 2011-07-04 13:38:12
- Not necessarily. But they might be better qualified to discuss the issue, which is all he's talking about here. by TB 2011-07-04 14:14:11
  - It won't be a "national debate," then. by mcfly 2011-07-04 17:55:28
    - Not everybody involved in a debate has to know everything there is to know. But the broader the knowledge ... by TB 2011-07-04 18:37:47

Up the Revolution! by Eri July 4, 2011 6:59 am

The more inept an army is, the flashier the uniforms and decorations of its generals. by ER 2011-07-04 07:59:22
- I favor khakis, fatigues, jeans, and overalls. Oh, and pitchforks to stick in the asses of anyone making over ... by Eri 2011-07-04 15:07:04
You do realize you're being herded, right? P.S. read the whole thing carefully. by TB 2011-07-04 07:09:44

Weekly News 2-in-1 Edition by Vitruvius July 3, 2011 1:50 pm

Idea for new name proposed by me: The Goldilocks Gazette. Y'now, Goldilocks Zone, Habitable Zone? by VelociraptorBlade 2011-07-06 23:57:30
Good work, VB by Robert 2011-07-05 11:06:13
- One of my favorite websites is Instapundit, which is basically a collection of links with short comments now and then. ... by TB 2011-07-05 11:13:29
  - Hmmmm... by Robert 2011-07-05 11:57:47
I love it! Of course, I keep wanting to insert some responses. Hee. Some of these could ... by Eri 2011-07-03 21:31:24
Nice work! I usually stick everything in separate threads, but your way seems less oppressive somehow. by TB 2011-07-03 14:19:22
Brilliant, VRB. Sort of a "Weekend Update" on acid. by ER 2011-07-03 14:05:21

Exxon is trying to destroy our environment by Eri July 3, 2011 5:10 am

No, Exxon is not "trying to destroy our environment." Exxon is trying to drill oil and move it to ... by TB 2011-07-03 08:07:38
- Tom, Oil companies have a habit of understating. We know that from The Gulf Oil Spill and BP. ... by Eri 2011-07-03 12:12:08
  - If one side is understating, sometimes the other side is overstating. The history of the Gulf oil spill is ... by TB 2011-07-03 13:08:27
    - While I have to agree that noone would want this (environmental disasters are very bad for business), I do have ... by VelociraptorBlade 2011-07-03 13:58:18

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